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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 19:18:16 GMT
Appalling performance from all concerned except Tom Davies and Josh Hare. Nichols spent another game pretending to be a footballer, Ollie Clarke couldn’t captain a tiddlywinks team Upson and Agogo headless chickens while Leahy, another piece of flotsam washed up here stank the place out. Coughlan had better hope that JCH can carry this crew to safety again, Leahy...I saw a different game clearly No, different opinions and perspectives on him, I thought he was awful especially his crossing the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 19:33:13 GMT
We set up for the 0-0 and that is what we got. So you think it was a decent performance? Why do you say that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 19:36:58 GMT
I'm with old Steptoe here and thought Leahy was awful.
Ollie Clarke as a proud captain (and rightly) must be thinking he should have left with the others.
Someone please convince me this manager has a clue about how to make this season anywhere near a success.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 10, 2019 20:42:57 GMT
There was no play at all from us. No goals from us was not a shock, but that we were so shaky at the back was. Wands took an hour to realise all the time they were wasting from the start was actually their own, the game was there for the taking. Poor point for Wycombe, they should have gone for it from off and got all three, Waels bargain rovers are all over the shop at the moment.
Waq Shak now seems to be sponsored by an emergency locksmith as it much of the ground. The theme is do you need an escape. Perhaps Samaritans should advertise there. I find the electronic advertising intrusive. Perhaps I’m watching it because the footballs so dire. When Wycombe had us trapped in our box up came the emergency locksmith number again.
The pasty and pie hut has been downgraded to a sausage roll hut but The electronic scoreboards up. It took me an hour though to realise the pretty wiggly pattern that’s always on it was actually the team sheet. Correct me where wrong. From my distance, With glare from the sun and fact some of it is behind a stand it is hard to read? I did make out some exciting advertising before the game, a rush of loud music that sounds like Enya played backward and speeded up, as footage showed fans turning up and populating the ground, all ten of them. This then moved on to show all the goals we scored last year. Obviously that didn’t take very long at all so they played this promo a second time.
I think the general consensus around the place was we are in for a long season.
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 10, 2019 21:52:55 GMT
Leahy...I saw a different game clearly No, different opinions and perspectives on him, I thought he was awful especially his crossing the ball. Here goes. I thought he got forward well. His corners are better than Lines'. He looked tidy on the ball and yes there were one or two bad crosses especially 2nd half. He looked a league 1 player, made a very good diving defensive header in his six yd box and ultimately not a bad home debut. I thought we looked flat first 25 before Sercombe's free kick and Vic's shot. Nichols plays the right pass every time but the lack of width was hugely apparent. I have a feeling it was to smother them, force them out wide, as the majority of their attacks came through the middle. I thought they were dirty and blatant and unfortunately the ref let them get away with a few yellows. The wind played havoc , was the same for both teams of course. Clarke looked off the pace and it was very scrappy. A draw was fair and we were on top at HT, they were crying out for the whistle. JCH coming back was to give them something to think about at best and I think we did settle even play for a point, but WW were miles better than this time last year, especially defensively. We cancelled each other out a bit. Davies was decent, much better partner for Craig and can be a threat in opposition box. Vic was ok but was direct when he got the ball, control let him down occasionally. Keeper did well, especially with a shot in the 2nd half. Coughlan's whole ethos last season was earn the shirt it's yours to lose. JCH needs a season of consistency to put himself in the shop window in Jan or July. I don't see either situation changing and this season's L1 doesn't look any more difficult than last year. It wasn't great entertainment and we did NOT see any difference in the urgency to high press, get the ball for throw ins or keep the ball well. But we have to accept that last season's form to save us from relegation was no fluke but bloody hard work and we really probably should have gone down had it not been for GC.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 22:22:35 GMT
No, different opinions and perspectives on him, I thought he was awful especially his crossing the ball. Here goes. I thought he got forward well. His corners are better than Lines'. He looked tidy on the ball and yes there were one or two bad crosses especially 2nd half. He looked a league 1 player, made a very good diving defensive header in his six yd box and ultimately not a bad home debut. I thought we looked flat first 25 before Sercombe's free kick and Vic's shot. Nichols plays the right pass every time but the lack of width was hugely apparent. I have a feeling it was to smother them, force them out wide, as the majority of their attacks came through the middle. I thought they were dirty and blatant and unfortunately the ref let them get away with a few yellows. The wind played havoc , was the same for both teams of course. Clarke looked off the pace and it was very scrappy. A draw was fair and we were on top at HT, they were crying out for the whistle. JCH coming back was to give them something to think about at best and I think we did settle even play for a point, but WW were miles better than this time last year, especially defensively. We cancelled each other out a bit. Davies was decent, much better partner for Craig and can be a threat in opposition box. Vic was ok but was direct when he got the ball, control let him down occasionally. Keeper did well, especially with a shot in the 2nd half. Coughlan's whole ethos last season was earn the shirt it's yours to lose. JCH needs a season of consistency to put himself in the shop window in Jan or July. I don't see either situation changing and this season's L1 doesn't look any more difficult than last year. It wasn't great entertainment and we did NOT see any difference in the urgency to high press, get the ball for throw ins or keep the ball well. But we have to accept that last season's form to save us from relegation was no fluke but bloody hard work and we really probably should have gone down had it not been for GC. Davies a better partner for craig you say,better than lockyer? and based on 1 game?
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Post by bondigas on Aug 10, 2019 22:25:30 GMT
Watched on I follow, one word for it desperate, no pace, no width or midfield creativity. You don't need to be a fortune teller, this season will be a struggle to remain in the division. Mrs Brown's boy is not someone you suspect players warm towards. Coventry City away next week will probably reveal his ability to get players behind him, doubt if they take to his back street approach attempts at motivation.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Aug 11, 2019 4:32:23 GMT
Watched for the first time on ifollow, thought Wycombe were slightly the better side, sorry but Akinfenwa was best player on the pitch, showed some tireless and nimble footwork for a 37 year old big man, and won near every header, did not like our defence of hoofed clearences at all, nearly every time it fell to a Wycombe player who launched it back in, not sure what our midfield was doing, but it was poor, first time I have watched Tom Nichols for a near full match and can see the footballer, but not the end product, will never be a striker, not strong or quick enough and lacks the tenacity and guile to 'go it alone' or craft something from nothing. Adeboyajo shows some promise though, and hope he can forge a partnership with JCH once fit. Defence seemed adequate apart from the hoofing, but goalie looked a tad shaky, was impressed with ifollow, the stream was near seamless all match, but focus, zooming, and camera angles need some work, all in all not bad for a fiver, I and will be in again next match, GC stated postmatch that we 'are what we are', what does he mean?.
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 11, 2019 6:25:39 GMT
Here goes. I thought he got forward well. His corners are better than Lines'. He looked tidy on the ball and yes there were one or two bad crosses especially 2nd half. He looked a league 1 player, made a very good diving defensive header in his six yd box and ultimately not a bad home debut. I thought we looked flat first 25 before Sercombe's free kick and Vic's shot. Nichols plays the right pass every time but the lack of width was hugely apparent. I have a feeling it was to smother them, force them out wide, as the majority of their attacks came through the middle. I thought they were dirty and blatant and unfortunately the ref let them get away with a few yellows. The wind played havoc , was the same for both teams of course. Clarke looked off the pace and it was very scrappy. A draw was fair and we were on top at HT, they were crying out for the whistle. JCH coming back was to give them something to think about at best and I think we did settle even play for a point, but WW were miles better than this time last year, especially defensively. We cancelled each other out a bit. Davies was decent, much better partner for Craig and can be a threat in opposition box. Vic was ok but was direct when he got the ball, control let him down occasionally. Keeper did well, especially with a shot in the 2nd half. Coughlan's whole ethos last season was earn the shirt it's yours to lose. JCH needs a season of consistency to put himself in the shop window in Jan or July. I don't see either situation changing and this season's L1 doesn't look any more difficult than last year. It wasn't great entertainment and we did NOT see any difference in the urgency to high press, get the ball for throw ins or keep the ball well. But we have to accept that last season's form to save us from relegation was no fluke but bloody hard work and we really probably should have gone down had it not been for GC. Davies a better partner for craig you say,better than lockyer? and based on 1 game? Better in respect of better balance in height. We have one reader and one basher. Locks was quicker but we always lacked height in our own box
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Aug 11, 2019 6:59:06 GMT
Watched for the first time on ifollow, thought Wycombe were slightly the better side, sorry but Akinfenwa was best player on the pitch, showed some tireless and nimble footwork for a 37 year old big man, and won near every header, did not like our defence of hoofed clearences at all, nearly every time it fell to a Wycombe player who launched it back in, not sure what our midfield was doing, but it was poor, first time I have watched Tom Nichols for a near full match and can see the footballer, but not the end product, will never be a striker, not strong or quick enough and lacks the tenacity and guile to 'go it alone' or craft something from nothing. Adeboyajo shows some promise though, and hope he can forge a partnership with JCH once fit. Defence seemed adequate apart from the hoofing, but goalie looked a tad shaky, was impressed with ifollow, the stream was near seamless all match, but focus, zooming, and camera angles need some work, all in all not bad for a fiver, I and will be in again next match, GC stated postmatch that we 'are what we are', what does he mean?. We are what he is
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 11, 2019 8:29:26 GMT
What does Ogogo bring to the pitch? Cannot recall him winning a tackle or a header. Managed one forward pass out of 4. Plays hide and seek when we have a throw. In fact plays hide and seek when we have the ball. Ollie C had a poor game but was involved and trying things. Number of occasions lost the ball as had no support. As Upson lies deep that should be Ogogo and Sercs. Sercs? Another missing for long periods.
Could have taken Ogogo off and dropped Nicholls into midfield try and create.
If we are going to worry about teams like WW and set a team accordingly, then will be a very very long season.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 11, 2019 9:14:48 GMT
Utter garbage, do that every week and we'll be a L2 team before you know it, in fact, we probably are a L2 team playing in L1. Score board working, but as always, Gorringe has got it wrong. It has no border, so you can't see it against the sky. He's about the same standard as the rest of the club at present, poor. Low first home game crowd. Looks like people have lost interest, and who can blame them? Edit. Nice to see Big Jim Eadie again. Top keeper. Couldn't understand a word he said, but great memories of him at Eastville. You cannot even see the screen if sat in SW stand. The entire matchday experience was spoiled and it had a feeling of decay and rot about it. I’m not one who talks about the food but the hut only had Cornish pasties and they were not yet cooked. No tea or cold drinks and this was before the game started. The match was an awful affair with us being totally devoid of attacking intent and I didn’t think we could look worse than last season but we did. Poor opening day crowd, quiet and lacklustre on and off the pitch. On leaving, there was a feeling of gloom, by many. The highlight of the day was the ticket lady telling us we had paid too much money and when asked why, she said my friend was a senior 😂. He didn’t take it well. At least I had one thing to have a laugh about. Awful game and if we carry on like that then many will stop coming. We looked like relegation fodder, really.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 9:26:06 GMT
I'm with old Steptoe here and thought Leahy was awful. Ollie Clarke as a proud captain (and rightly) must be thinking he should have left with the others. Someone please convince me this manager has a clue about how to make this season anywhere near a success. Old fricking Steptoe :-) yep 63 in two weeks time. You should see me horse!!!, anyway greetings Fausty I may have to re adopt my former Spanish persona if this carries on, elpappo on the rampage.
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Post by Igitur on Aug 11, 2019 9:32:52 GMT
I am sure Cocko thinks nil is a good score.
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 11, 2019 9:39:23 GMT
What does Ogogo bring to the pitch? Cannot recall him winning a tackle or a header. Managed one forward pass out of 4. Plays hide and seek when we have a throw. In fact plays hide and seek when we have the ball. Ollie C had a poor game but was involved and trying things. Number of occasions lost the ball as had no support. As Upson lies deep that should be Ogogo and Sercs. Sercs? Another missing for long periods. Could have taken Ogogo off and dropped Nicholls into midfield try and create. If we are going to worry about teams like WW and set a team accordingly, then will be a very very long season. Just watched the highlights,! And realise I missed 2 forward passes from Ogogo.
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 11, 2019 10:01:46 GMT
Watched for the first time on ifollow, thought Wycombe were slightly the better side, sorry but Akinfenwa was best player on the pitch, showed some tireless and nimble footwork for a 37 year old big man, and won near every header, did not like our defence of hoofed clearences at all, nearluy every time it fell to a Wycombe player who launched it back in, not sure what our midfield was doing, but it was poor, first time I have watched Tom Nichols for a near full match and can see the footballer, but not the end product, will never be a striker, not strong or quick enough and lacks the tenacity and guile to 'go it alone' or craft something from nothing. Adeboyajo shows some promise though, and hope he can forge a partnership with JCH once fit. Defence seemed adequate apart from the hoofing, but goalie looked a tad shaky, was impressed with ifollow, the stream was near seamless all match, but focus, zooming, and camera angles need some work, all in all not bad for a fiver, I and will be in again next match, GC stated postmatch that we 'are what we are', what does he mean?. He means we're sh*t, doesn't he.
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 11, 2019 10:04:43 GMT
I am sure Cocko thinks nil is a good score. If he perseveres with that starting XI and tactics, then I think we can drop the "o" from "Cocko".
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 11, 2019 10:32:14 GMT
Kinda just got back.... Oh dear. Same as last week, GC got it wrong. That's 0/2 for me and the changes were too little, too late. On paper we started with two up front, but I'm afraid with Nichols being one of them, you know what you're getting....a one up front, and another one dithering back to goal too easily pushed off the ball and contributing nothing. Again. After two years, he gets a start ahead of the hungry Tyler and Deon. Woeful. We started with 3/4 defensive central midfielders, the other just a central midfielder. We started with the keeper that was at fault with the first goal, and the defence that was at fault with the second goal last week. Yes, they're a great bunch of lads according to GC, that might be true, but GC has no plan b when his team don't get plan a right. Going forward: No width. No pace. No-one making forwarding runs. No passing forward to our own players. No tempo in attack. No direction focus or outlet when in possession in defence. I'm afraid Ollie as Captain was poor in form, as was Agogo. I didn't like Leahy contribution, I thought he was a disaster waiting to happen but some fella on radio said he was our best player! We were awful. Lethargic performance. No idea. No creativity. Ponderous in possession. Having said that, Adebeyo was useful. A bit of a handful and brilliant placed shot hit the post and almost spun in.... Lovely home debut. Worked hard and tried to pick up loose ball. Too often alone though as his partner was a waste of fuc£in space. And nice cameo from JCH too. I hope we don't thrash our hopes on one. Fair play to Wycombe. They came for a draw at least and were unfortunate not to nick it at the end when a goalline clearance (Craig, I think?) even seemed an eternity to clear. Why oh why when there's two athletic, tall defenders on our side, too often the ball in the air got to the fattest footballer in the world's head? Yet, the other way round, their defenders headed everything? Akinfenwa got to everything and was even unfairly punished when we sandwiched him! (Ooooer missus!) GC papering over cracks on radio. I'm very disappointed we don't seem to have learned anything from last season and after this calendar year of recruitment, we can't offer anything better than a forward line if no winger or width and no striker that can score.. ? I went for a massive p!ss when Nichols came on last week as knew we wouldn't score.... I'm just shy of going for a week long p!ss and boycotting away matches because I can't justify watching the same game over and over with the cost involved.... it's a similar start to last season on the back end of DC reign. No offence to Wycombe even though I have no love for them), but they won't win the league, what the hell happens when we play a team that does have a chance of winning the league? Well said. Positives? 1. The shirt (though the current squad would have been absolutely battered by the class of 89-90. Not sure many of the current squad are fit to wear it). 2. J CH. Looked sharp. He is our only hope of scoring "a goal". 3. Victor. Did well feeding off scraps from our midfield. He might work well with JCH.
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Post by harrybuckle on Aug 11, 2019 11:06:22 GMT
Another concerning stat for Club is the opening home attendance was only 7,668 our lowest since we played our first and only season thankfully in the Conference in Aug 2015 when we got 7,019 against Grimsby Town. The performance and first two defeats wont encourage too many to flock to see us at the Mem.
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Post by Igitur on Aug 11, 2019 12:21:44 GMT
The rain and wind (ooh er) affected the fair weather supporters and lowered attendance.
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