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Post by kwoodgas on Mar 30, 2018 23:53:39 GMT
Mensah played well imo. Neat passes and one-twos, left his marker standing a few times with smart turns, and set up a few chances. Seems to have a footballing brain that our other costly forward lacks. Didn't see if it was him who gave the ball away for their goal but we gave the ball away so much all over the pitch all game that it was going happen sooner or later. We need to up the pace and show some urgency. Please don't play Nichols anymore, he's useless. Give Telford and Mensah a go up front for the rest of the season. Nothing to lose. I thought he was absolutely awful- opinions eh? Completely agree mate, I don't like to slag off our players but he looked an 12 year old playing in the playground with no concept of positioning etc and was often more of a hindefence than a help.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Mar 30, 2018 23:58:15 GMT
I too thought Nichols did OK, without setting the world alight. In fairness to him, he didn't really have a massive amount of service to work with, and for the last twenty five minutes of the first half especially we were a good 10 yards too deep and not getting a grip on the game at all. Really don't get all the bile that is directed at him. Yes he was a bit lightweight in holding the ball up but as others have said I've seen others in the quarters over the years who were much worse than that.
The highlights seem to suggest that it was "one of Our Own" who limply gave the ball away across our box for their goal rather than Mensah. They also confirm in my mind that there is no way on earth that was a pen.
Agree with some of what others have said, but.......
Ollie Clarke - thought he put a real shift in with some shuddering challenges, even after his card. Agree that he gave the ball away too cheaply too many times but he also got through a massive amount of the dirty stuff Partington - my MOM despite an off day with his crosses. Won everything that came his way and our best defender by a country mile.
Impressed with Craig and Bennett, and Telford looked lively too.
Thought the ref was excellent apart from a funny 5 minutes in the second half and getting the penalty decision wrong.
Just about deserved the win on balance of chances created (and the two that hit the woodwork) but it was far from convincing and we really made hard work of it. Have seen much worse teams than Bury leave with all 3 points.......
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 31, 2018 5:55:53 GMT
Think Nichols had our first 4 efforts at goal, so did something right to get into position May as well start with The Powerpuff Girls up front. How many chances did Telford need to score? How many did Nicholls have without ever seriously troubling the keeper? He is funny though, first half, him running flat out forward, Bury defender running backwards at the same speed, defender decides he's had enough of that so stands still, Nicholls has no idea what to do next, ball rolls to defender who jogs away with it, Nicholls didn't even chase after him. Enjoy the rest of your career in the National League North, because unless you improve, a lot, that's where you are heading. and Lines and Brown will be joining him
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 6:47:53 GMT
It's so easy for the chronically bitter to criticise Tom Nichols as he hasn't found his scoring boots, but given his lack of service and us playing deeper than the Mariana Trench, he's unlikely to get many chances. I thought he did well again yesterday.
As for the rest of the team, Mensah aside, we were sound. 6-1 wouldn't have flattered and but for the woodwork and a modern day Gordon Banks, it could have easily turned out that way.
Season still going nicely.
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Post by crater on Mar 31, 2018 7:40:51 GMT
Nicholls wasn't a world beater yesterday and neither was he a panel beater either. He's copping the flack recently vacated by Harrison. Would like to see Nicholls show more aggression and I guess that's something that can be coached. Was not in the least bit surprised he started yesterday as Darrell rotates the squad when we have 2 games in quick succession. Would expect 3 or 4 changes to the line up at Fleetwood on Monday
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Post by gasheadpirate on Mar 31, 2018 9:11:21 GMT
I think some are being harsh on Mensah. He is a young Conference player who has not had much game time. I think he showed flashes of brilliance and is a raw talent. There is no harm in giving him a run in the final games as it will do him good. I think he could be a real asset, as long as our fans give him time. Unfortunately, there are some on here who seem to have got it in form him already.
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Post by Rex on Mar 31, 2018 9:16:10 GMT
I though Nicholls was okay, but Telford every time for me. Bennett had a very good game, Partington, meh and Mensah game was up there with Mousa Dagnogo and Michael Kuipers appearances for Rovers. I'm sure if he starts for us again he will be better than that! Just goes to show how many varying opinions there can be at the same match, and long may that continue.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 9:46:02 GMT
May as well start with The Powerpuff Girls up front. How many chances did Telford need to score? How many did Nicholls have without ever seriously troubling the keeper? He is funny though, first half, him running flat out forward, Bury defender running backwards at the same speed, defender decides he's had enough of that so stands still, Nicholls has no idea what to do next, ball rolls to defender who jogs away with it, Nicholls didn't even chase after him. Enjoy the rest of your career in the National League North, because unless you improve, a lot, that's where you are heading. and Lines and Brown will be joining him I think Lee Brown is coming to the end of his career as a L1 player, Chris Lines looks just fine to me, although he struggled horribly yesterday, but that looked to be conditions more than anything.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 10:36:31 GMT
Mensah played well imo. Neat passes and one-twos, left his marker standing a few times with smart turns, and set up a few chances. Seems to have a footballing brain that our other costly forward lacks. Didn't see if it was him who gave the ball away for their goal but we gave the ball away so much all over the pitch all game that it was going happen sooner or later. We need to up the pace and show some urgency. Please don't play Nichols anymore, he's useless. Give Telford and Mensah a go up front for the rest of the season. Nothing to lose. I thought he was absolutely awful- opinions eh? I thought he was average,he looks as if he isnt sure he belongs at league 1 level. Im hoping he finds the confidence to express himself properly because he looks like a good athlete with a decent left foot.
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Post by GasMacc1 on Mar 31, 2018 10:39:37 GMT
I though Nicholls was okay, but Telford every time for me. Bennett had a very good game, Partington, meh and Mensah game was up there with Mousa Dagnogo and Michael Kuipers appearances for Rovers. I'm sure if he starts for us again he will be better than that! Just goes to show how many varying opinions there can be at the same match, and long may that continue. True. Bennett - superb. Partington - I agree with DC: he worked hard to create good opportunities for himself to be able to mess them up. Keep the former, improve the latter. Nichols - I don't know whether it's lack of confidence, or just his normal style, but he appears to be going through the motions with no self-belief. The goal we conceded summed it up for me. The ball was cleared to him near the half-way line. It was awkward to control and there were two Bury defenders in close attendance. He made a token attempt to control the ball, but it was far too easy for Bury to take the ball and proceed unimpeded towards our penalty area. Many Rovers forwards have failed on occasion to hold the ball up, but I'd like to think that most would have made more of an effort to atone for losing it. The contrast with Telford is stark. Mensah - I saw very good and not so good in his game yesterday. I also saw his performance deteriorate as the game progressed, as if he was losing confidence when a few things went wrong. I think there is a very good player in there, but DC is taking the right approach in using him only sparingly whilst he gains experience of League 1. I doubt that he would have started if Sercombe or Sinclair had been available. Telford - he's good! I reacted to his goal by jumping up and losing the battery out of my phone!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 31, 2018 11:13:15 GMT
Mensah played well imo. Neat passes and one-twos, left his marker standing a few times with smart turns, and set up a few chances. Seems to have a footballing brain that our other costly forward lacks. Didn't see if it was him who gave the ball away for their goal but we gave the ball away so much all over the pitch all game that it was going happen sooner or later. We need to up the pace and show some urgency. Please don't play Nichols anymore, he's useless. Give Telford and Mensah a go up front for the rest of the season. Nothing to lose. I thought he was absolutely awful- opinions eh? I thought he was lacklustre and error prone in my opinion. APologirs for implying it was Mensah that gave the ball to bury for their goal, the highlights show it looks like it was Linsey.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Mar 31, 2018 12:07:06 GMT
I thought he was absolutely awful- opinions eh? I thought he was lacklustre and error prone in my opinion First ever start in league football remember. Can’t be too critical of the lad
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 31, 2018 12:16:46 GMT
Think Nichols had our first 4 efforts at goal, so did something right to get into position I could get into the right position ! It’s goals that count & I feel he is sorely lacking confidence. It doesn’t help when our own fans get on his back, as they did on the Wrst terrace
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 31, 2018 12:18:05 GMT
I thought he was lacklustre and error prone in my opinion First ever start in league football remember. Can’t be too critical of the lad Not being overly critical dude but just giving an opinion. I will cheer all Rovers players. I thought the stick Nicholls got was very poor form
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 31, 2018 12:22:58 GMT
Thanks for that as my mate said no more that 8K crowd. Bury had so few fans and the empty open away terrace made it look worse. I said 9K so my next ticket is being paid for. Nice one
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 31, 2018 12:26:22 GMT
HT 0-0. Not massively enthused by the line up. Sympathy start for Nichols? We are not a charity. I'll go for 1-1 at FT. We'll score after Nichols is subbed and they'll score from a lump into the box which are vertically challenged centre-backs will be unable to defend against. All of 2 minutes before we scored after Nichols was subbed. I'm hearing it was a rather soft penalty? A win is a win... UTG. All of our group said no way was it a pen but the bury players didn’t argue or remonstrate as much as I think they could have. It looked like our own player dropped as soon as any bodily contact was made & we had a ref who gave it where most wouldn’t.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 31, 2018 12:39:00 GMT
on the subject of Nicholls, I liked his involvement and overall contribution. But he looked, in musical terms, 'off the beat' his runs didn't coincide with where the ball ended up, his shots lacked confidence, etc. They say Locks is a great reader of the game, so puts himself in the right place, but TM just didn't seem to. He had a header which might have gone in, but which went just over the bar - a decent effort from a half-chance. For strikers on form, things just seem to fall into place (although, in fact, they anticipate it, probably intuitively in many cases) he spadework opened things up for Telford IMO. And it was great to see Telford's immediate contributions (he had nice touches in the 2 mins before he scored), as well as the rest of it - space was just starting to open up when he came on Nicholls' overall contribution is negative. I think we may have bought a bit of a dud. One thing though, whatever happens with him, he'll never be able to complain that he wasn't given a chance here. Very true. I have never known ANY player, who has been seriously underperforming, given so many starts but my guess is that DC is trying to justify him spending the money. I hear people say he’s being played out of position but i don’t see where that woukd be
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 13:24:32 GMT
Nicholls' overall contribution is negative. I think we may have bought a bit of a dud. One thing though, whatever happens with him, he'll never be able to complain that he wasn't given a chance here. Very true. I have never known ANY player, who has been seriously underperforming, given so many starts but my guess is that DC is trying to justify him spending the money. I hear people say he’s being played out of position but i don’t see where that woukd be Nobody was saying that he was being played out of position until the manager said that in an interview. I'm sure he's a great bloke and the manager is right to support him, but a long time ago sending him out to do a job that he was almost certainly going to fail at became counter productive. He should have gone out to the 4th or 5th tier for a while. It's nothing to do with being bitter, it's just being honest, sorry if honestly doesn't sit well with everyone on this forum, but when you see a player who could run 10 yards to close down an opponent but won't do it, he just stands still and either Sinclaire, O Clarke, Rory or Ellis have to run 30 yards straight past him, you have to conclude that something isn't right.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 31, 2018 14:07:40 GMT
Very true. I have never known ANY player, who has been seriously underperforming, given so many starts but my guess is that DC is trying to justify him spending the money. I hear people say he’s being played out of position but i don’t see where that woukd be Nobody was saying that he was being played out of position until the manager said that in an interview. I'm sure he's a great bloke and the manager is right to support him, but a long time ago sending him out to do a job that he was almost certainly going to fail at became counter productive. He should have gone out to the 4th or 5th tier for a while. It's nothing to do with being bitter, it's just being honest, sorry if honestly doesn't sit well with everyone on this forum, but when you see a player who could run 10 yards to close down an opponent but won't do it, he just stands still and either Sinclaire, O Clarke, Rory or Ellis have to run 30 yards straight past him, you have to conclude that something isn't right. I certainly don’t see any bitterness in your posts fella. I think you & I share many of the same views. There are only 3 people, that post on here, that it’s very easy to see not only disagree with me but obviously get angered by my posts and I’ve blocked them today. At the end of the day it’s a bloody football forum & it woukd be a very dull world if we all agreed. Since diagnosis, I avoid people who either don’t like me or make personal digs. I’ve also learned that those who harbour those feelings are the ones who suffer the most. I have simplified my life greatly. Sold loads of stuff I didn’t need and feel much freer for it sorry for going off on a tangent but it seemed a good post to add these thoughts too
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