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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 8:49:51 GMT
Yesterday, the sending off looked harsh. It looks worse watching it again.
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Post by bs5 on Sept 10, 2017 9:00:10 GMT
Did the people stood near you think it was a foul? Mixed, as was the pub after. What does a freeze frame of his feet in the air prove?! He was running! Pause it and it shows him diving fella , the camera don't lie mate |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 9:01:15 GMT
Mixed, as was the pub after. What does a freeze frame of his feet in the air prove?! He was running! His "dive" started before Slocombe was close to him and there was no contact. He had no thoughts of going for the ball (he "dived" instead); which he had knocked too far and was not in control of it. If anything the contact was, perhaps, a slight push from Leadbitter. The video is inconclusive, we can both see what we want to see, I think. The ref saw what I saw, the keeper was sent off, we won the game and we have a goalkeeping problem on Tuesday. That's all that really matters  |
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Post by bs5 on Sept 10, 2017 9:09:39 GMT
His "dive" started before Slocombe was close to him and there was no contact. He had no thoughts of going for the ball (he "dived" instead); which he had knocked too far and was not in control of it. If anything the contact was, perhaps, a slight push from Leadbitter. The video is inconclusive, we can both see what we want to see, I think. The ref saw what I saw, the keeper was sent off, we won the game and we have a goalkeeping problem on Tuesday. That's all that really matters Think the ref made had a decision to make and it was the wrong one and he was conned , the whole incident was a prequel to the performance from the crowd and the fans which saw us over the line in what was really an underwhelming performance up to then . Does anyone know how to upload photos on here please? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 9:32:29 GMT
The crowd was noisy and pretty amazing after the red card. But dosnt this mean we were silent and no help at all to the team before that? That's pretty much what happens at any game of football isn't it? Crowds are noisy for the first 5 minutes, then it all dies down until something happens. I suppose so,has it always been like that? Were we silent during the relegation out of the league battles for most of the season then? The 1st half was boring so there was an excuse. |
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Post by tanksfull on Sept 10, 2017 10:11:18 GMT
His "dive" started before Slocombe was close to him and there was no contact. He had no thoughts of going for the ball (he "dived" instead); which he had knocked too far and was not in control of it. If anything the contact was, perhaps, a slight push from Leadbitter. The video is inconclusive, we can both see what we want to see, I think. The ref saw what I saw, the keeper was sent off, we won the game and we have a goalkeeping problem on Tuesday. That's all that really matters Are you not concerned about the fact that a goalkeeper was, wrongly, sent off. Or that, at present, a cheat has prospered? OK his actions probably caused us to win a game we didn't (arguably) deserve to but he has not, at present, received the yellow which he should have done for diving - unless Leadbitter has pushed him slightly. When you stop the video just after he kicks the ball forward it becomes totally clear that Slocombe has not tripped or touched the player. Slocombe's legs are on the ground and his foot is well behind his knees. He has not brought his foot through to attempt to kick the ball but the player has already taken off and dived. |
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Post by harrybuckle on Sept 10, 2017 11:13:07 GMT
Posh,Fleetwood and now Walsall outplay us but we win two of those three games....funny game football The Turkish messi was class once again and I am not talking about Andre ! Nobody has outplayed us at home this season, Posh got the better of us on the day, Fleetwood were rubbish, and today was more or less even. And Oztumer showed plenty of skill but absolutely nothing came off for him today, he was a shadow of the player he looked against us last season. Fleetwood clearly outplayed us Shirley ....bet you think Bradford City were a tad fortunate to beat us as well. Good spirit shown by Clarke who stepped up to the plate after Lines departure to score a welcome winner. |
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Post by chelt_gas on Sept 10, 2017 11:35:03 GMT
The video is inconclusive, we can both see what we want to see, I think. The ref saw what I saw, the keeper was sent off, we won the game and we have a goalkeeping problem on Tuesday. That's all that really matters Are you not concerned about the fact that a goalkeeper was, wrongly, sent off. Or that, at present, a cheat has prospered? OK his actions probably caused us to win a game we didn't (arguably) deserve to but he has not, at present, received the yellow which he should have done for diving - unless Leadbitter has pushed him slightly. When you stop the video just after he kicks the ball forward it becomes totally clear that Slocombe has not tripped or touched the player. Slocombe's legs are on the ground and his foot is well behind his knees. He has not brought his foot through to attempt to kick the ball but the player has already taken off and dived. If that's the case would the club appeal? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 11:37:56 GMT
Nobody has outplayed us at home this season, Posh got the better of us on the day, Fleetwood were rubbish, and today was more or less even. And Oztumer showed plenty of skill but absolutely nothing came off for him today, he was a shadow of the player he looked against us last season. Fleetwood clearly outplayed us Shirley ....bet you think Bradford City were a tad fortunate to beat us as well. Good spirit shown by Clarke who stepped up to the plate after Lines departure to score a welcome winner. I thought Fleetwood were poor and were allowed to have the majority the possession in non-threatening areas by a team that could easily contain them. If there was a side doing any outplaying, it wasn't them. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 11:54:13 GMT
The video is inconclusive, we can both see what we want to see, I think. The ref saw what I saw, the keeper was sent off, we won the game and we have a goalkeeping problem on Tuesday. That's all that really matters Are you not concerned about the fact that a goalkeeper was, wrongly, sent off. Or that, at present, a cheat has prospered? OK his actions probably caused us to win a game we didn't (arguably) deserve to but he has not, at present, received the yellow which he should have done for diving - unless Leadbitter has pushed him slightly. When you stop the video just after he kicks the ball forward it becomes totally clear that Slocombe has not tripped or touched the player. Slocombe's legs are on the ground and his foot is well behind his knees. He has not brought his foot through to attempt to kick the ball but the player has already taken off and dived. I recall watching a programme pre season when it was stated the retrospective action will be taken when players get opponents sent off for simulation. The authorities had set up a number of pangels to review incidents like yesterday's. The one thing I am unsure about is has it been started or does it begin next season |
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Post by laughinggas on Sept 10, 2017 12:03:43 GMT
This season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 12:03:48 GMT
The video is inconclusive, we can both see what we want to see, I think. The ref saw what I saw, the keeper was sent off, we won the game and we have a goalkeeping problem on Tuesday. That's all that really matters Are you not concerned about the fact that a goalkeeper was, wrongly, sent off. Or that, at present, a cheat has prospered? OK his actions probably caused us to win a game we didn't (arguably) deserve to but he has not, at present, received the yellow which he should have done for diving - unless Leadbitter has pushed him slightly. When you stop the video just after he kicks the ball forward it becomes totally clear that Slocombe has not tripped or touched the player. Slocombe's legs are on the ground and his foot is well behind his knees. He has not brought his foot through to attempt to kick the ball but the player has already taken off and dived. No, I'm not concerned. If you're right, then the card will be rescinded, and if I'm right it won't. Its football. I'm slightly sceptical about what you can prove regarding contact by pausing moving footage. I don't think he dived, I think he played for the contact with an onrushing keeper and embellished his reaction. The same as most players would do in the same circumstances. Padstow suggests the ref thought it was violent conduct in which case I would expect an appeal to be successful. |
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Post by laughinggas on Sept 10, 2017 12:05:18 GMT
Would be nice to question ref as to how that was more violent than some of the yellow card bookings
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Post by irishrover on Sept 11, 2017 20:11:34 GMT
Red card all day long to me - and all I've seen is the video.
What their player does to embellish it is irrelevant. Goalie comes out, doesn't win the ball and goes through the player. It doesn't matter if he was in the air beforehand - he can make the case he was simply avoiding getting clobbered by clumsy lunging challenge. No chance on an appeal in my view. It was some pretty amateur stuff from both Leadbetter and Slocombe. Leadbetter underhits his pass, Slocombe gets himself in trouble by misjudging what he could get to. I think 19 out of 20 refs make that same call and if that had happened at the other end and red card hadn't been given we'd be hollering about it. |
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