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Post by manchestergas on Aug 3, 2017 20:29:22 GMT
The interview:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 8:50:45 GMT
[Hamer interview video posted] He did very well for six minutes, talking in English sentences while saying almost nothing at all, before running out of rehearsed platitudes, and speaking freely thereafter: Sounds like a plan for a new Ragbag Rovers. I think we have tried that already. I am unsure about Hamer's position talking about DS and BRFC. For one thing, he spoke about DS as 'the other' in a rather unsettling way. Should we fear DS? For another thing, he did nothing to clarify how BRFC now work. Higgs was Chairman as owner of the club; Wael Al Qadi is President as his family's DS are owners of the club. So is Hamer Wael's Chairman to do these BS interviews and to chair board meetings? Or is Hamer Wael's Chairman to be a competent executive chairman? If it is the latter, then when is he going to start executing something? I cannot say I am impressed.
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 6, 2017 10:05:03 GMT
If that was meant to be a reassuring interview - it failed. I'm with the duck.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 11:48:35 GMT
A Chairman who has been here for 18 months now, has talked about 'Plan B' in relation to UWE yet doesn't know what planning permissions there are on The Mem.
Sorry, but that's just clueless.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 12:03:25 GMT
So is he not the Executive Chairman, merely the clueless and essentially impotent Puppet Chairman of DS? It seems to me that Dwayne Sports is essentially Hani Al Qadi et al. Bristol Rovers Football Club is essentially Wael Al Qadi. Steve Hamer seems to be given only the minimum necessary information.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 12:32:31 GMT
So is he not the Executive Chairman, merely the clueless and essentially impotent Puppet Chairman of DS? It seems to me that Dwayne Sports is essentially Hani Al Qadi et al. Bristol Rovers Football Club is essentially Wael Al Qadi. Steve Hamer seems to be given only the minimum necessary information. Don't make excuses, it's hardly a secret that there have been permissions sought on The Mem. Even in an Executive position (presumably with a half decent salary), he should know. I totally get that it's a tough job, when things go well either the football manager or the owners will get the credit, in a way, he's on to a hiding to nothing, but that lack of awareness and preparation is pretty poor and does make you wonder what kind of bubble he operates in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 14:26:41 GMT
Don't make excuses, it's hardly a secret that there have been permissions sought on The Mem. Even in an Executive position (presumably with a half decent salary), he should know. Sorry, no; that is my point. Either: - Steve Hamer is an Executive Chairman with executive power, and should know this, and should be on top of Plan B already,
- or Steve Hamer is a non-executive Chairman with no power, and is not told this, and should be on top of setting the table for board meetings.
I did a lap of the internet as follows, and I'm none the wiser who really means what to whom. Dwane Sports06-Aug-2015 Jersey registered Unclear BRISTOL ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED16-Mar-1897 No outstanding charges - TAYLOR WESSING SECRETARIES LIMITED (18-Feb-2016, company secretarial company only)
- Wael AL-QADI (18-Feb-2016)
- Stephen Charles HAMER
- Kenneth Arthur William MASTERS (04-Dec-2006, supporters club director only)
- Brian SEYMOUR-SMITH (07-Nov-2011, supporters club director only)
BRISTOL ROVERS (1883) LIMITED01-Aug-2002 Outstanding charge to Dwane Sports Limited (described as the Memorial Stadium) Charge PDF- TAYLOR WESSING SECRETARIES LIMITED (18-Feb-2016, company secretarial company only)
- Wael AL-QADI (18-Feb-2016)
- Stephen Charles HAMER
- Kenneth Arthur William MASTERS (04-Dec-2006, supporters club director only)
- Brian SEYMOUR-SMITH (07-Nov-2011, supporters club director only)
- Michael Wallace TURNER (21-Jul-2016, solicitor, same address as secretarial company)
Wael AL-QADIStephen Charles HAMER
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 6, 2017 14:46:56 GMT
It's an atrocious interview from whatever way you look at it.
The questions weren't as searching as one would like, probably because he just wants to remain everyone's friend so won't follow up on the bla bla cr@p he's received.
Hamer comes out of it not knowing what is going on.....well some of us have thought that for a while, now it's even more apparent to those whom weren't aware. Clueless. Pathetic. Uninspiring. I feel like his interview leaves us with more questions to answer because I've been manipulated and deceived by his non specific answers.
I'm calling hamer out as a parasite. Fair play, there may be a role in our club for his talents, but it certainly isn't a Chairman of a football club.
I wonder what he actually offers to us? What he brings to the table? What forward thinking his ambitions are? What ideas of improvement he can pro actively inspire? How his ethos of running a club can be implemented under his chairmanship?
What the fxxx difference he makes?
Otherwise re establish him as something else, but Chairman is a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 14:59:30 GMT
I think one revelation from this week is that Steve Hamer is an employee, outside the decision-making circle. He doesn't seem to have a great hold on the thinking and discussions at DS I think he's made a pig's ear and misjudged how he's fronted this decision. 'I don't know' - and build from that - is often the best answer, and is hugely underused by folk with a microphone in front of them.
Otherwise, as their representative, running their subsidiary football club on a day-to-day basis, he's probably quite good. Things certainly seem to get addressed, and he's surely an improvement on Toni.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 6, 2017 15:05:20 GMT
I think one revelation from this week is that Steve Hamer is an employee, outside the decision-making circle. He doesn't seem to have a great hold on the thinking and discussions at DS I think he's made a pig's ear and misjudged how he's fronted this decision. 'I don't know' - and build from that - is often the best answer, and is hugely underused by folk with a microphone in front of them. Otherwise, as their representative, running their subsidiary football club on a day-to-day basis, he's probably quite good. Things certainly seem to get addressed, and he's surely an improvement on Toni. Then that's the role of something other than a Chairman. Which may be handsomely paid btw. Just saying..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 15:11:48 GMT
I think one revelation from this week is that Steve Hamer is an employee, outside the decision-making circle. He doesn't seem to have a great hold on the thinking and discussions at DS I think he's made a pig's ear and misjudged how he's fronted this decision. 'I don't know' - and build from that - is often the best answer, and is hugely underused by folk with a microphone in front of them. Otherwise, as their representative, running their subsidiary football club on a day-to-day basis, he's probably quite good. Things certainly seem to get addressed, and he's surely an improvement on Toni. Then that's the role of something other than a Chairman. Which may be handsomely paid btw. Just saying.. Not really. He's executive chairman of a subsidiary company (subject to decisions from the parent company). Day-to-day stuff, down to him: big stuff, await notification.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 15:22:25 GMT
Fair play, there may be a role in our club for his talents, but it certainly isn't a Chairman of a football club. It depends on what you meant and want by Chairman though, does it not? Some Chairmen are football directors, signing players for the manager, controlling the budget and negotiating fees and wages, e.g Martin Edwards at Manchester United. Other Chairmen are de facto Chief Executive Officers, overseeing executive operations, effectively* running the company, e.g Nick Higgs at Rovers. (*or otherwise) Other Chairmen are sidelined elderly figureheads who merely chair board meetings and have no power otherwise, regardless of shareholding, e.g Peter Hill-Wood at Arsenal. I do not suppose we know what job precisely Steve Hamer is supposed to be doing. BRFC President Wael Al Qadi presumably has all the real power, given that his family, via Dwane Sports, own the club outright. However, the President travels and cannot be responsible for day-to-day operations. These must be delegated to some kind of executive officer(s). Whether this role is performed by Chairman Steve Hamer remains unclear to me, given that he does not seem to be absolutely aware of whatever the devil is going on. EDIT: well while I was posting, an answer came: I think one revelation from this week is that Steve Hamer is an employee, outside the decision-making circle. He doesn't seem to have a great hold on the thinking and discussions at DS. This seems like it to me. But if Steve Hamer is not in the loop, then who is resident at the Memorial Ground executing Dwane Sports plans in the form of Bristol Rovers? I was under the impression that President Wael Al Qadi is a visitor with plenty of air miles. EDIT 2: Moreover, why on earth would you send or allow the man in front of the camera to give the only interview yet on this subject, without briefing him at all on whatever the hell the plan actually is? He is a fool for doing it, but Wael Al Qadi is a fool for making or allowing him.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 6, 2017 15:31:08 GMT
Then that's the role of something other than a Chairman. Which may be handsomely paid btw. Just saying.. Not really. He's executive chairman of a subsidiary company (subject to decisions from the parent company). Day-to-day stuff, down to him: big stuff, await notification. Ok. What's he done?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 15:42:04 GMT
Well nothing. But if his job is to say and do whatever Dwane Sports tell him to say or do, and this is nothing, then his only fault is accepting such a fool's position, and the fault for him doing nothing lies in Jordan. I hope we here from the President* soon, because his apparent puppet at the Memorial Ground has not told us anything encouraging. *proper statement and interview - not 'tweet' etc.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 6, 2017 15:46:49 GMT
I'll reiterate..
What, in 18months of chairmanship, has our chairman done for our club?
Just one thing?
*excludes presenting awards, standing with new players or dignitaries, indulging on golf days, smiling at cameras, talking sh*te with a plum, having absolutely no interest in brfc*
Sorry, the talking sh*te thing is about all.
Gas, what I'm saying is most of you could do that job.
Be very careful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 16:06:14 GMT
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 6, 2017 16:55:51 GMT
I f**king hope not.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 6, 2017 17:19:23 GMT
I'll reiterate.. What, in 18months of chairmanship, has our chairman done for our club? Just one thing? *excludes presenting awards, standing with new players or dignitaries, indulging on golf days, smiling at cameras, talking sh*te with a plum, having absolutely no interest in brfc* Sorry, the talking sh*te thing is about all. Gas, what I'm saying is most of you could do that job. Be very careful. Just one thing?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 17:19:39 GMT
I'll reiterate.. What, in 18months of chairmanship, has our chairman done for our club? Just one thing? *excludes presenting awards, standing with new players or dignitaries, indulging on golf days, smiling at cameras, talking sh*te with a plum, having absolutely no interest in brfc* Sorry, the talking sh*te thing is about all. Gas, what I'm saying is most of you could do that job. Be very careful. He has provided us with some hilarious interviews ? I think that he would have made a brilliant character for Viz 'Chairman Hamer the bullsh1tting old buffer from Bristol' etc.
On a selfish note though he was instrumental in organising the friendly at Corinthian Casuals which I enjoyed so I will try and remember him for that.
Lets not forget though that the owners chose him to be their chairman so they must think highly of him.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 6, 2017 18:02:27 GMT
I'll reiterate.. What, in 18months of chairmanship, has our chairman done for our club? Just one thing? *excludes presenting awards, standing with new players or dignitaries, indulging on golf days, smiling at cameras, talking sh*te with a plum, having absolutely no interest in brfc* Sorry, the talking sh*te thing is about all. Gas, what I'm saying is most of you could do that job. Be very careful. He has provided us with some hilarious interviews ? I think that he would have made a brilliant character for Viz 'Chairman Hamer the bullsh1tting old buffer from Bristol' etc.
On a selfish note though he was instrumental in organising the friendly at Corinthian Casuals which I enjoyed so I will try and remember him for that.
Lets not forget though that the owners chose him to be their chairman so they must think highly of him.
Really, trymer? Much respect. But while I so laugh at viz character innuendo, I exasperate... His role is not of a chairman. They've chosen him as an unquestioning employee.. Always question when things don't sound right..
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