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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 17:54:34 GMT
The photo in question was taken a couple of months prior to the Mansfield game as part of a competition Blackthorn were running. It may have been, but another PR own goal considering the time of the release of the picture and considering Parkes is/was overweight and there was some hearsay about his nights out. The PR at BRFC and its lack of thoughtfulness and professionalism astounds me. why am i not surprised you are "astounded". have you ever been "happy" ??
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 12, 2014 18:10:58 GMT
Parkes shouldn't have been overweight, it's a disgrace especially for a 21 year old. Clutching a pint of cider two days before the Mansfield game is a disgusting image. I really despair at such ill informed comment. He is not a boxer looking to attain peak condition for a 12 round battle once or twice per annum. I have been through various fitness regimens and have allowed myself a couple of drinks within that. At that age and with a fair amount of workload you should not really be overly concerned at a pint or two or a fried breakfast or kebab on occasion. The fittest man I ever trained under would eat everything and anything. Diet fads and crazes change so often nowadays. The furore that went on over the photo of Eliot Richards was laughable. Whilst I agree that drinking excessively and eating that stuff often would not be great, I think it is acceptable to allow the odd pint or fry up as part of a decent regimen. It's only body builders that have to watch the fat and carbs and only when they come to a show. A footballer would need carbs to give out energy over a sustained period and also a decent amount of protein for power. All things in moderation is a better way to look at it. I really do not get those that made such a big fuss and condemned certain players for having a breakfast. It's only when it becomes an habit that it can be a problem. As long as they are training and attaining the targets then I have no problem with the odd pint here and there.
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Post by smashngrab on Jul 12, 2014 18:19:55 GMT
Christ, in the 50's and early 60's people like Alfie and the like trained on fry up's Bass and Woodbines.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 12, 2014 19:02:23 GMT
Christ, in the 50's and early 60's people like Alfie and the like trained on fry up's Bass and Woodbines. Everyone did then though so it was an equal playing field. Now lots eat correctly so the ones that don't will have a disadvantage. You're what you eat lol.
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Post by intheknow on Jul 12, 2014 23:05:43 GMT
Parkes shouldn't have been overweight, it's a disgrace especially for a 21 year old. Clutching a pint of cider two days before the Mansfield game is a disgusting image. I really despair at such ill informed comment. He is not a boxer looking to attain peak condition for a 12 round battle once or twice per annum. I have been through various fitness regimens and have allowed myself a couple of drinks within that. At that age and with a fair amount of workload you should not really be overly concerned at a pint or two or a fried breakfast or kebab on occasion. The fittest man I ever trained under would eat everything and anything. Diet fads and crazes change so often nowadays. The furore that went on over the photo of Eliot Richards was laughable. Whilst I agree that drinking excessively and eating that stuff often would not be great, I think it is acceptable to allow the odd pint or fry up as part of a decent regimen. It's only body builders that have to watch the fat and carbs and only when they come to a show. A footballer would need carbs to give out energy over a sustained period and also a decent amount of protein for power. All things in moderation is a better way to look at it. I really do not get those that made such a big fuss and condemned certain players for having a breakfast. It's only when it becomes an habit that it can be a problem. As long as they are training and attaining the targets then I have no problem with the odd pint here and there. So you didn't think mr Parkes looked out of condition last season ?
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Post by otleygas on Jul 13, 2014 0:36:30 GMT
Two, Morecambe home and Wycombe away. That's alright then! I wonder if we could of ground out a point if wardy stayed in charge though? Almost without a doubt ward would have for us enough points to stay up. That's not to say that DC should not be our manager now,, but rather that the board should either have insisted that ward stayed, or should have appointed an experienced Atkins type for 8 games.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 13, 2014 1:51:56 GMT
I really despair at such ill informed comment. He is not a boxer looking to attain peak condition for a 12 round battle once or twice per annum. I have been through various fitness regimens and have allowed myself a couple of drinks within that. At that age and with a fair amount of workload you should not really be overly concerned at a pint or two or a fried breakfast or kebab on occasion. The fittest man I ever trained under would eat everything and anything. Diet fads and crazes change so often nowadays. The furore that went on over the photo of Eliot Richards was laughable. Whilst I agree that drinking excessively and eating that stuff often would not be great, I think it is acceptable to allow the odd pint or fry up as part of a decent regimen. It's only body builders that have to watch the fat and carbs and only when they come to a show. A footballer would need carbs to give out energy over a sustained period and also a decent amount of protein for power. All things in moderation is a better way to look at it. I really do not get those that made such a big fuss and condemned certain players for having a breakfast. It's only when it becomes an habit that it can be a problem. As long as they are training and attaining the targets then I have no problem with the odd pint here and there. So you didn't think mr Parkes looked out of condition last season ? To pick him out singularly would be poor form. We had a team full of unfit for purpose players who had no motivation. The one that gave me a giggle was a few calling Gillespie morbidly obese. I've seen more fat on a cold kebab. I stand by my comment that moderation is the key. If you remember Jan Molby at Liverpool then you know he got so much abuse but he played very well. I think talent and natural ability shine through although a reasonable level of fitness is a prerequisite. I don't think that having the fittest team will win anything unless you have the talent to do something with that
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Post by ashperry83 on Jul 13, 2014 6:18:43 GMT
The arguement about whether a player should drink or not during the season is surely redundant now no? It dehydrates you. Surely no pro should drink during July to May. Careers are short, make the most of it.
In terms of Tom Parkes and his fitness last year....... It's even more baffling why we employed that Mark Hammond if he could do nothing about this.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Jul 13, 2014 8:41:15 GMT
Parkes was dropped and stripped of the Captaincy, there must of been some big problems for that to happen.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 13, 2014 8:54:14 GMT
The question must be is Parkes, and possibly also Brunt, trying to regain his fitness for Rovers/DC or to attract an offer elsewhere?
You do have to wonder what goes on generally at Rovers when the club allows so many players to get out of shape, Kenneth, Richards & Parkes etc
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Post by basel on Jul 13, 2014 9:17:58 GMT
The question must be is Parkes, and possibly also Brunt, trying to regain his fitness for Rovers/DC or to attract an offer elsewhere? You do have to wonder what goes on generally at Rovers when the club allows so many players to get out of shape, Kenneth, Richards & Parkes etc Rovers have been a stepping stone club for years now. Obviously this is the same for many clubs,but things have got worse over the last few years. I mean why bother telling us about 'promising youngsters' because the probability is they ain't gonna play in the first eleven! As for unfit players,well I think the bad attitude,arroagnce,cutting corners and what have you trickles down from Box 1,through the ranks and onto the field of play.
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Post by falsenumber9 on Jul 13, 2014 9:41:37 GMT
The arguement about whether a player should drink or not during the season is surely redundant now no? It dehydrates you. Surely no pro should drink during July to May. Careers are short, make the most of it. In terms of Tom Parkes and his fitness last year....... It's even more baffling why we employed that Mark Hammond if he could do nothing about this. Absolutely. It's completely unacceptable that a professional footballer would drink during the season given that fitness and physical shape is integral to their career. It's good to see DC applying some standards in this respect.
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Post by EssoBlue on Jul 13, 2014 10:10:45 GMT
Rovers have been a stepping stone club for years now. Obviously this is the same for many clubs,but things have got worse over the last few years. I mean why bother telling us about 'promising youngsters' because the probability is they ain't gonna play in the first eleven! As for unfit players,well I think the bad attitude,arroagnce,cutting corners and what have you trickles down from Box 1,through the ranks and onto the field of play. I appreciate that it's the norm on this forum to blame the BoD for every failing related to the club, but surely the fitness of players is the sole responsibility of the manager and coaching staff. Or perhaps we should blame the tea lady, she obviously gives out far to many unhealthy cakes & biscuits!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 13, 2014 10:33:10 GMT
Parkes was dropped and stripped of the Captaincy, there must of been some big problems for that to happen. Allegedly There were but the club flatly refuses to talk about it and even went as far as to completely deny any knowledge of it. I understand certain things need to remain closed to debate but to deny is just foolish and does nothing to build a genuine rapport with the fans. Norburn suddenly leaving, the incidents in the nightclubs and arrests, without charges, just make a mockery of the club. It's not as if Bristol is a place where people don't talk and I include police officers. I believe it had a direct impact on how we were relegated. I may as well bang my head against a wall for the good it will do. The local news were told they would have restricted access if they reported on these incidents. Why do the club feel a need to hide this ? I feel they would maybe have some sympathy if it did come clean.
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Post by basel on Jul 13, 2014 11:04:42 GMT
Rovers have been a stepping stone club for years now. Obviously this is the same for many clubs,but things have got worse over the last few years. I mean why bother telling us about 'promising youngsters' because the probability is they ain't gonna play in the first eleven! As for unfit players,well I think the bad attitude,arroagnce,cutting corners and what have you trickles down from Box 1,through the ranks and onto the field of play. I appreciate that it's the norm on this forum to blame the BoD for every failing related to the club, but surely the fitness of players is the sole responsibility of the manager and coaching staff. Or perhaps we should blame the tea lady, she obviously gives out far to many unhealthy cakes & biscuits! Crap attitude from the top will spread down through the ranks. This will show itself in various ways. This is why great leaders will lead and inspire the people in their club. Weak leaders will have an opposite effect. Common sense. I disagree that this forum is particularly one view point or another. It has many differing points of views,but some poster don't see this or it apparentling suits them to not see this.
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Post by malago on Jul 13, 2014 11:33:28 GMT
The arguement about whether a player should drink or not during the season is surely redundant now no? It dehydrates you. Surely no pro should drink during July to May. Careers are short, make the most of it. In terms of Tom Parkes and his fitness last year....... It's even more baffling why we employed that Mark Hammond if he could do nothing about this. Absolutely. It's completely unacceptable that a professional footballer would drink during the season given that fitness and physical shape is integral to their career. It's good to see DC applying some standards in this respect.
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Post by gassedup on Jul 13, 2014 11:34:54 GMT
I appreciate that it's the norm on this forum to blame the BoD for every failing related to the club, but surely the fitness of players is the sole responsibility of the manager and coaching staff. Or perhaps we should blame the tea lady, she obviously gives out far to many unhealthy cakes & biscuits! Crap attitude from the top will spread down through the ranks. This will show itself in various ways. This is why great leaders will lead and inspire the people in their club. Weak leaders will have an opposite effect. Common sense. I disagree that this forum is particularly one view point or another. It has many differing points of views,but some poster don't see this or it apparentling suits them to not see this. Bas I do not agree with everything you say and certainly not always the way you say it. However there is not a wrong word (typos excluded) in this comment in my opinion. EssoBlue Didn't the tea lady scout Nigel Martyn? Everyone has a positive part to play but some have far more influence than others in how those parts are actually played out and the culture of the Club. The culture and atmosphere of any group or entity can, by it's very nature, only start in one place; it's leaders.
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Post by basel on Jul 13, 2014 11:43:46 GMT
Crap attitude from the top will spread down through the ranks. This will show itself in various ways. This is why great leaders will lead and inspire the people in their club. Weak leaders will have an opposite effect. Common sense. I disagree that this forum is particularly one view point or another. It has many differing points of views,but some poster don't see this or it apparentling suits them to not see this. Bas I do not agree with everything you say and certainly not always the way you say it. However there is not a wrong word (typos excluded) in this comment in my opinion. EssoBlue Didn't the tea lady scout Nigel Martyn? Everyone has a positive part to play but some have far more influence than others in how those parts are actually played out and the culture of the Club. The culture and atmosphere of any group or entity can, by it's very nature, only start in one place; it's leaders.
Fair play Gassedup.
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Post by malago on Jul 13, 2014 11:46:11 GMT
Parkes shouldn't have been overweight, it's a disgrace especially for a 21 year old. Clutching a pint of cider two days before the Mansfield game is a disgusting image. I really despair at such ill informed comment. He is not a boxer looking to attain peak condition for a 12 round battle once or twice per annum. I have been through various fitness regimens and have allowed myself a couple of drinks within that. At that age and with a fair amount of workload you should not really be overly concerned at a pint or two or a fried breakfast or kebab on occasion. The fittest man I ever trained under would eat everything and anything. Diet fads and crazes change so often nowadays. The furore that went on over the photo of Eliot Richards was laughable. Whilst I agree that drinking excessively and eating that stuff often would not be great, I think it is acceptable to allow the odd pint or fry up as part of a decent regimen. It's only body builders that have to watch the fat and carbs and only when they come to a show. A footballer would need carbs to give out energy over a sustained period and also a decent amount of protein for power. All things in moderation is a better way to look at it. I really do not get those that made such a big fuss and condemned certain players for having a breakfast. It's only when it becomes an habit that it can be a problem. As long as they are training and attaining the targets then I have no problem with the odd pint here and there. But it did become a habit, this is why he was overweight. I reiterate my point that a 21 year-old pro footballer should not be overweight. That means he was eating and/or drinking a hell of a lot. Targets attained? He was overweight and we got relegated!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 13, 2014 11:51:44 GMT
I really despair at such ill informed comment. He is not a boxer looking to attain peak condition for a 12 round battle once or twice per annum. I have been through various fitness regimens and have allowed myself a couple of drinks within that. At that age and with a fair amount of workload you should not really be overly concerned at a pint or two or a fried breakfast or kebab on occasion. The fittest man I ever trained under would eat everything and anything. Diet fads and crazes change so often nowadays. The furore that went on over the photo of Eliot Richards was laughable. Whilst I agree that drinking excessively and eating that stuff often would not be great, I think it is acceptable to allow the odd pint or fry up as part of a decent regimen. It's only body builders that have to watch the fat and carbs and only when they come to a show. A footballer would need carbs to give out energy over a sustained period and also a decent amount of protein for power. All things in moderation is a better way to look at it. I really do not get those that made such a big fuss and condemned certain players for having a breakfast. It's only when it becomes an habit that it can be a problem. As long as they are training and attaining the targets then I have no problem with the odd pint here and there. But it did become a habit, this is why he was overweight. I reiterate my point that a 21 year-old pro footballer should not be overweight. That means he was eating and/or drinking a hell of a lot. Targets attained? He was overweight and we got relegated! Do you put our relegation solely at Parkes feet ? Personally I have never seen him as captain material. I have never heard him shout to keep lines or organise his players. We really need a decent leader on the pitch. The last player I saw with us that did this was Pat Baldwin. He really made a difference in the short period he had with us. Apparently talks broke down at the last hurdle. I think we suffered from the top down last season. I'd like to think lessons have been learned but that has not been proven the case before this
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