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Post by therealist on Jul 5, 2014 23:43:18 GMT
I am, however, suggesting that if by Christmas we find ourselves in a messy spot in the Conference, then the Board will finally have to admit that they need to do something different to save the club. I'd say we've already gone way, way beyond that stage. We're in Non-f****ing-League. How much worst does it have to get!? Mid-table, lower mid-table, relegation scrap, Conference South???
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 23:45:54 GMT
how about pushing for promotion and us gasheads enjoying the football?
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Post by robroover on Jul 5, 2014 23:48:32 GMT
It's not whether Darrel Clarke is the man to take us forward. It is whether the board will put their money where their mouth is! We have tried "experienced" managers in the past, to no effect. We have a chairman who said "relegation is not an option". Who has taken us down? The board, through decisions made latter in the season. We are in the Conference, with no FFP. So what do we hear the BoD say, " we can't afford this, we can't afford that". This is what we are stuck with. It has been going on for nearly forty years plus! So, unless there is a sugar daddy gashead around, willing to throw money around, we could be here for a long while. I am resigned that Rovers we'll be here for possibly 5 years, maybe a lot of you should resign yourselves to.
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Post by therealist on Jul 6, 2014 0:02:39 GMT
It's not whether Darrel Clarke is the man to take us forward. It is whether the board will put their money where their mouth is! We have tried "experienced" managers in the past, to no effect. We have a chairman who said "relegation is not an option". Who has taken us down? The board, through decisions made latter in the season. We are in the Conference, with no FFP. So what do we hear the BoD say, " we can't afford this, we can't afford that". This is what we are stuck with. It has been going on for nearly forty years plus! So, unless there is a sugar daddy gashead around, willing to throw money around, we could be here for a long while. I am resigned that Rovers we'll be here for possibly 5 years, maybe a lot of you should resign yourselves to. Chairman Higgs: "The support that turned out for us today [Mansfield] tells you that we will have a budget that will be right at the top end in Conference terms and we have to make sure that we use it wisely, which we have to accept hasn’t happened in recent seasons." "Darrell will have a very good budget for the Conference. I imagine it will be one of the highest. His intention is 100 per cent to bounce back in the first season. We will give him every opportunity and backing to make sure that happens." With respect Chairman Higgs, bulls***, utter bulls***!! Dennis Payter: The Sums Don't Add Up! www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Bristol-Rovers-fan-s-view-sums-just-don-t-add/story-21057753-detail/story.html
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 6, 2014 0:19:40 GMT
Whether I agree or not is irrelevant. We have to back him right now. We really don't have any choice. I hope he pushes us onward and upward.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 0:26:47 GMT
Why are you calling me a smartass? I'm not trying to be smart, and would not like to be thought of as an ass. I'm just trying to point out that the Board have failed with every appointment they've tried. I'm not saying they should resign, nor that somebody should buy us out. I am, however, suggesting that if by Christmas we find ourselves in a messy spot in the Conference, then the Board will finally have to admit that they need to do something different to save the club. That's all really. I'm a fan. I say the Board might need to admit they need help. You call me names. Enjoy your Disprin tomorrow. sorry i meant it in a friendly way because i had had some drinks ,not meaning to disrespect you
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 0:28:25 GMT
maybe darrell and his team will be right there in the promotion mix? why not?
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Post by swissgas on Jul 6, 2014 0:32:09 GMT
It's not whether Darrel Clarke is the man to take us forward. It is whether the board will put their money where their mouth is! We have tried "experienced" managers in the past, to no effect. We have a chairman who said "relegation is not an option". Who has taken us down? The board, through decisions made latter in the season. We are in the Conference, with no FFP. So what do we hear the BoD say, " we can't afford this, we can't afford that". This is what we are stuck with. It has been going on for nearly forty years plus! So, unless there is a sugar daddy gashead around, willing to throw money around, we could be here for a long while. I am resigned that Rovers we'll be here for possibly 5 years, maybe a lot of you should resign yourselves to. I was going to reply to the post above about pushing for promotion and enjoying the football but I'll reply to yours Rob because it covers the same ground. And I'm on dodgy ground because I haven't seen a game for 3 seasons ! But living abroad and relying on Gas Player you do get the chance to look closely at interviews and other stuff teams in your league put out. And you get to know a bit more about those teams and clues to how they manage to do so much better than Rovers with crowds a half or a third the size. These clubs don't have a sugar daddy willing to throw money around they use what they've got wisely. I have been impressed by Keith Hill at Rochdale and Jim Bentley at Morecambe who both manage to make silk purses out of sow's ears. Keith Hill looks a rough tough Northerner and you would expect his football philosophy to reflect that but from what I can tell he's a clever manager who has what is broadly termed "nous" and knows how to manage his resources well. It's not a question of saying what you want to do and hoping everyone else will come along with you it's knowing how to handle situations and people in the way they need handling to get the best results. I'm concerned about the populist approach Rovers are taking at such a critical time and this kind of Gung-ho reliance on young hungry players and the playing for the shirt approach worries me. I've no doubt our manager and team will be willing and enthusiastic and run for ever but so will most of the other teams in the Conference. The question for me is will we be clever enough ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 0:40:46 GMT
It's not whether Darrel Clarke is the man to take us forward. It is whether the board will put their money where their mouth is! We have tried "experienced" managers in the past, to no effect. We have a chairman who said "relegation is not an option". Who has taken us down? The board, through decisions made latter in the season. We are in the Conference, with no FFP. So what do we hear the BoD say, " we can't afford this, we can't afford that". This is what we are stuck with. It has been going on for nearly forty years plus! So, unless there is a sugar daddy gashead around, willing to throw money around, we could be here for a long while. I am resigned that Rovers we'll be here for possibly 5 years, maybe a lot of you should resign yourselves to. I was going to reply to the post above about pushing for promotion and enjoying the football but I'll reply to yours Rob because it covers the same ground. And I'm on dodgy ground because I haven't seen a game for 3 seasons ! But living abroad and relying on Gas Player you do get the chance to look closely at interviews and other stuff teams in your league put out. And you get to know a bit more about those teams and clues to how they manage to do so much better than Rovers with crowds a half or a third the size. These clubs don't have a sugar daddy willing to throw money around they use what they've got wisely. I have been impressed by Keith Hill at Rochdale and Jim Bentley at Morecambe who both manage to make silk purses out of sow's ears. Keith Hill looks a rough tough Northerner and you would expect his football philosophy to reflect that but from what I can tell he's a clever manager who has what is broadly termed "nous" and knows how to manage his resources well. It's not a question of saying what you want to do and hoping everyone else will come along with you it's knowing how to handle situations and people in the way they need handling to get the best results. I'm concerned about the populist approach Rovers are taking at such a critical time and this kind of Gung-ho reliance on young hungry players and the playing for the shirt approach worries me. I've no doubt our manager and team will be willing and enthusiastic and run for ever but so will most of the other teams in the Conference. The question for me is will we be clever enough ? look i watched keith hills rochdale team murder us at home and i thought why not us? but why not us under dc? players doing whats required within the budget at rochdale so why not us under d clarke?
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Post by therealist on Jul 6, 2014 0:45:55 GMT
I was going to reply to the post above about pushing for promotion and enjoying the football but I'll reply to yours Rob because it covers the same ground. And I'm on dodgy ground because I haven't seen a game for 3 seasons ! But living abroad and relying on Gas Player you do get the chance to look closely at interviews and other stuff teams in your league put out. And you get to know a bit more about those teams and clues to how they manage to do so much better than Rovers with crowds a half or a third the size. These clubs don't have a sugar daddy willing to throw money around they use what they've got wisely. I have been impressed by Keith Hill at Rochdale and Jim Bentley at Morecambe who both manage to make silk purses out of sow's ears. Keith Hill looks a rough tough Northerner and you would expect his football philosophy to reflect that but from what I can tell he's a clever manager who has what is broadly termed "nous" and knows how to manage his resources well. It's not a question of saying what you want to do and hoping everyone else will come along with you it's knowing how to handle situations and people in the way they need handling to get the best results. I'm concerned about the populist approach Rovers are taking at such a critical time and this kind of Gung-ho reliance on young hungry players and the playing for the shirt approach worries me. I've no doubt our manager and team will be willing and enthusiastic and run for ever but so will most of the other teams in the Conference. The question for me is will we be clever enough ? look i watched keith hills rochdale team murder us at home and i thought why not us? but why not us under dc? players doing whats required within the budget at rochdale so why not us under d clarke? Because of these reasons perhaps? "I know Darrell Clarke was brought in with a view to eventually taking over, but I presume that was if he proved himself. There was no evidence on the field that he did and when he took over it was his team remember that played so badly, without passion, organisation or commitment against Torquay recently." The thoughts of Dennis Payter, who I entirely agree with. Spot on Dennis. Read more at www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Bristol-Rovers-fan-s-view-sums-just-don-t-add/story-21057753-detail/story.html#xi2jrH7bt8moMqiH.99
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 0:54:48 GMT
but he is our football manager ? so support him what else can we do?
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Post by swissgas on Jul 6, 2014 0:56:39 GMT
I was going to reply to the post above about pushing for promotion and enjoying the football but I'll reply to yours Rob because it covers the same ground. And I'm on dodgy ground because I haven't seen a game for 3 seasons ! But living abroad and relying on Gas Player you do get the chance to look closely at interviews and other stuff teams in your league put out. And you get to know a bit more about those teams and clues to how they manage to do so much better than Rovers with crowds a half or a third the size. These clubs don't have a sugar daddy willing to throw money around they use what they've got wisely. I have been impressed by Keith Hill at Rochdale and Jim Bentley at Morecambe who both manage to make silk purses out of sow's ears. Keith Hill looks a rough tough Northerner and you would expect his football philosophy to reflect that but from what I can tell he's a clever manager who has what is broadly termed "nous" and knows how to manage his resources well. It's not a question of saying what you want to do and hoping everyone else will come along with you it's knowing how to handle situations and people in the way they need handling to get the best results. I'm concerned about the populist approach Rovers are taking at such a critical time and this kind of Gung-ho reliance on young hungry players and the playing for the shirt approach worries me. I've no doubt our manager and team will be willing and enthusiastic and run for ever but so will most of the other teams in the Conference. The question for me is will we be clever enough ? look i watched keith hills rochdale team murder us at home and i thought why not us? but why not us under dc? players doing whats required within the budget at rochdale so why not us under d clarke? Because I'm not sure whether Darrell is clever enough at this stage to outflank other managers in the way Keith Hill and others do. The season in which he had success with Salisbury in the Conference South was one where I believe he had a comparatively big budget and Salisbury were one of the few full time teams in that league. So far at Rovers he has come across as honest, enthusiastic, realistic about wage budgets and a proponent of attacking football which are all things the fans want to hear but he hasn't actually achieved anything. He has also done some things which I would class as "not too clever" such as calling the fans "punters", criticising players publicly without getting any positive reaction, letting his emotions get the better of him after the Mansfield game and joining in with the "blame John Ward" campaign rather than maintaining a dignified silence. I hope he does well but I think he would have a better chance of doing so with more guidance from the board and by having people around him who make up for his weaknesses and can help him become a better manager. I'm trying to be realistic but positive when saying this.
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Post by therealist on Jul 6, 2014 2:56:26 GMT
3.47am and the talkSPORT presenters randomly mention the strange decision to move move John Ward upstairs, in respose to a text about the 0-6 thrashing of Reading back in the 90's.
Presenters: "how times change, Reading in the Championship, and now...Bristol Rovers in the Conference!...I still can't get my head around that."
You're not the only one pal!
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