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Post by therealist on Jul 6, 2014 0:59:03 GMT
I didn't spot any double heads or webbed fingers in the away end, no.
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 6, 2014 1:18:34 GMT
I didn't spot any double heads or webbed fingers in the away end, no. 6
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Post by empirebaypete on Jul 6, 2014 2:54:40 GMT
As I said in my post IF there were s***heads then that would have been part of the problem. At no time was I trying to blame our fans behaviour on a non "existent presence". Other posters were saying about the way they thought the stewards and police went about things were wrong. I was just saying that IF there were s***heads, then obviously the security was crap. I've only spoken to a couple of people who were there on the day. One didn't mention the s***. The other, an ex steward told me he saw about six cops talking to three of them outside the ground and it looked like they were be turned away. I purposely put IF in my post. Perhaps next time I'll add ALLEGEDLY too, if that would help. I would be surprised if any got into the ground to be honest. Edit to say the reason I'd be surprised is I doubt very much the cops would let them in. In my younger days I tried to get into the East End. I was with a s***head and a gashead. The s*** were playing Manchester Utd. My Gasheasd mate and myself were turned away for being Gasheads by the cops on the gate. We had no colours on, they just picked us out. In those days I used to stand in the Tote End. I wouldn't have thought I'd sort of register on the police radars though. By the way, we then went up the open end and stood with the United fans.
Well that's cleared that up then, just put a bigger 'if' next time please, my eyes aren't what they used to be :oops: Sorry, a bit over the top with my reply there. Put it down to having to get up at 4 am for the last couple of mornings to watch the World Cup.
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Post by salfordsgas on Jul 6, 2014 10:34:41 GMT
Bulls***. I was personally stood outside the Welly over an hour after the game when five to six of them were marched past the pub under police escort. Or mabe I just imagined that. If you were actually in the away end at the Mansfield and actually saw them then I will accept your word, I'm just going on what several Mansfield fans said on the forum after the game that they saw nor heard ANY sh!theads in with them. Being on the Gloucester Road or in the Mem car park is NOT the same as actually being in the away end not unless I have a very active imagination. TBH I don't care ifyou accept my word or not. There was clearly a small group of fans in the away end baiting the Rovers fans, this was ot the behaviour of the Mansfield fans I came across all day. Even IF you are right about there being s**theads in the away end (something I do not believe for one second) there was clearly a group in and around the Mem who had no reason to ne there apart from trying to provoke trouble. Frankly if they had got battered they would have no one to blame but themselves.
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Post by badbloodash on Jul 7, 2014 11:58:26 GMT
I was in the car park after the game behind the dry build stand about 30 yards from the Mansfield fans I saw at least 3or 4 s***heads I know in a group of 10 to 15 being kept apart they were also about at the bottom of glos rd /Cheltenham rd during and after the game these are the sort who scout about looking for stragglers to attack unfortunately on this occasion it went wrong big time Look I'm going on what several Mansfield fans who were in the away end said after the game, they were regulars know most of their own and also said they would have noticed if anything unpleasant was going on and would have got any non Mansfield fans removed. I don't doubt what you saw but were they actually in the away end or just loitering trying to make trouble If of course you were actually in the away end yourself and saw them then I'm happy to accept your word If you read my post you will see I never said they were in the away end I myself watched the game from hype blackthorn end the reason I was in the car park was I was trying to get to the hospitality in the dribuild to meet up with some mates they were there and next time I see the ones I know they will wish they weren't
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Post by jozer on Jul 7, 2014 12:04:14 GMT
There were NO Sh!theads in the away end, several Mansfield fans came on the forum after the game to confirm it or else they would have asked stewards to remove them, even our fans next to the away end said they heard no chanting or anything so stop trying to blame our fans behaviour on a non existent presence. Bulls***. I was personally stood outside the Welly over an hour after the game when five to six of them were marched past the pub under police escort. Or mabe I just imagined that. Just because they were in the area, doesn't mean they had been in the away end.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 8:54:45 GMT
By the way, monster monster is a sh*thead. Just read some of his postings on OTIB. Correct. Although it's been pretty obvious if you look at his/her/its postings since this forum got updated. Pretty embarrassing really - coming onto a Rovers forum when we're at the lowest ebb in our history purely to try and do a bit of muckraking. Cringeworthy. If there is a "monstermonster" on OTIB it's a clone, nothing to do with me. its interesting to see a number of threads, too which to date I haven't contributed, openly discussing the folly of the new stadium. Just because I was in a minority it never meant I was wrong or a City fan, my view is still that we should rent somewhere, get the money from Sainsburys ASAP, and concentrate on a new team fit for promotion and FL advancement and anyone attempting to defend pitch invaders is a prat. Out of interest could someone with access to OTIB post some links to "my" posts there.
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Post by Big Dave on Jul 8, 2014 11:13:05 GMT
1. The police made no effort to form a 'line' of officers in front of the Blackthorn End (or any stand) to act as a deterrent. A mistake. 2. The subsequent 'trouble' was minimal, isolated to a few incidents among a crowd of 10,500. I include the couple of hundred offending pitch invaders in that. 3. The police overreaction to said trouble was appalling with police willingly drawing batons and willfully striking a young, unarmed man. Disgraceful policing. 4. These subsequent 'dawn raids' are clearly a waste of time, money and police resources and this isn't really in the public interest IMHO. Bad policing all round. 1. A mistake, and one they clearly could have prepared for. 2. Yup, they broke the law and it could have been handled better. 3. No overreaction. If you're on the pitch (at the end of a game your team lost) in 2014, you should expect what is coming to you. Sorry if this seems pro-police or anti-fan, but it's an obvious thing and was well publicised in advance and on the day. 4. Yup, too many dawn raids on Rovers fans were wrong at the Mem, too few on City fans who were wrong at Ashton....shame our local MP's don't want to get involved in this kind of issue...
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 8, 2014 12:54:06 GMT
3. No overreaction. If you're on the pitch (at the end of a game your team lost) in 2014, you should expect what is coming to you. Sorry if this seems pro-police or anti-fan, but it's an obvious thing and was well publicised in advance and on the day. 4. Yup, too many dawn raids on Rovers fans were wrong at the Mem, too few on City fans who were wrong at Ashton....shame our local MP's don't want to get involved in this kind of issue... Equity and proportionality underpin the administration of justice for a civilized society.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 8, 2014 14:48:28 GMT
I know we keep going on about the pitch invasion at Aston gate but how is it any different to our invasion in 2007. I think we are all trying to deflect everything and should look closer to home In case you are still coming over here from OTIB cobra, take a loot at these two and spot the difference: Exhibit A: Exhibit B:
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Post by Big Dave on Jul 8, 2014 15:26:46 GMT
3. No overreaction. If you're on the pitch (at the end of a game your team lost) in 2014, you should expect what is coming to you. Sorry if this seems pro-police or anti-fan, but it's an obvious thing and was well publicised in advance and on the day. 4. Yup, too many dawn raids on Rovers fans were wrong at the Mem, too few on City fans who were wrong at Ashton....shame our local MP's don't want to get involved in this kind of issue... Equity and proportionality underpin the administration of justice for a civilized society. I never said it wasn't equal or proportional, and on the OF (before it was shut down) I regularly pointed out that (pre-Mansfield) far too few City fans from the Derby game were identified and/or charged, and (post-Mansfield) Rovers fans would be again hit harder... ...I would love all those City fans who entered the pitch to have been found and prosecuted. But it's the same with the Rovers fans. They won and invaded because they wanted a fight...we won because we'd reached the lowest ebb in our club's history...I don't think the same criteria were applied though as the numbers don't make sense...
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Post by cobra1 on Jul 11, 2014 21:29:13 GMT
I know we keep going on about the pitch invasion at Aston gate but how is it any different to our invasion in 2007. I think we are all trying to deflect everything and should look closer to home In case you are still coming over here from OTIB cobra, take a loot at these two and spot the difference: Exhibit A: Exhibit B: To me both videos are quite similar loads of dick heads running onto the pitch giving it the big one but no trouble
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