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Post by The Concept on Jul 5, 2014 18:01:37 GMT
I must admit the developments over the course of the last week have worried me, and still do to an extent. However, having mulled it over, this is my current thinking:
- Sainsburys have yet to confirm (perhaps due to a pending change at the top) and we know they have pulled out of other plans. - There is a possibility that they might pull out of further schemes. - The letter signed by cross-party Bristol MPs has shown Sainsburys how important the Horfield supermarket is to the city of Bristol. - The mention of the plans for the Mem at PMQT have now made this the highest profile of their projects.
So, Sainsburys - and the new chief - should be fully aware of the importance of the plans and the knock-on effect. If say Sainsburys pull out of 2 out of 5 supermarket plans, we should be in the best possible position to ensure we are one of the 3 that goes through.
Of course, Sainsburys might decide to go ahead with all current plans.
All we can do is sit tight and 'try' to be patient.
KTF ... UTG!!
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Post by gas2 on Jul 5, 2014 18:12:54 GMT
has any body thought about someone else might be interested in buying the mem ?
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Post by basel on Jul 5, 2014 18:18:33 GMT
I must admit the developments over the course of the last week have worried me, and still do to an extent. However, having mulled it over, this is my current thinking: - Sainsburys have yet to confirm (perhaps due to a pending change at the top) and we know they have pulled out of other plans. - There is a possibility that they might pull out of further schemes. - The letter signed by cross-party Bristol MPs has shown Sainsburys how important the Horfield supermarket is to the city of Bristol. - The mention of the plans for the Mem at PMQT have now made this the highest profile of their projects. So, Sainsburys - and the new chief - should be fully aware of the importance of the plans and the knock-on effect. If say Sainsburys pull out of 2 out of 5 supermarket plans, we should be in the best possible position to ensure we are one of the 3 that goes through. Of course, Sainsburys might decide to go ahead with all current plans. All we can do is sit tight and 'try' to be patient. KTF ... UTG!! This seems fair enough Concept. The local population around the proposed Mem site of over 30,000 will be another plus too,you might think. So as you suggest, the Horfield Sainsbury may have a reasonble chance of surviving the new age. I suppose things won't that easy though.
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Post by matealotblue on Jul 5, 2014 18:27:09 GMT
has any body thought about someone else might be interested in buying the mem ? And go through all that planning/JR nonsense again? No thanks.
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Post by Big Dave on Jul 5, 2014 18:28:22 GMT
No UWE no football club. Simples Do you mean no UWE no football ground ? Surely there is no reason for a football club with 3000 season ticket holders to just disappear.It would be terrible if the owners of BRFC 1883 Ltd decided to sell the Mem for housing to recoup their money and then turn their back on the football club but it wouldn't mean the end would it ? After all dozens of league clubs survive and consistently give their fans something to cheer about even if there are less than 3000 of them and the club don't own the ground at which they play. We've (almost) seen it before...Portsmouth should probably have gone, Coventry too...the list of mis-managed football clubs is long and illustrious, and sooner or later one that it 'too big to fail' will fail - I just hope it's not us. has any body thought about someone else might be interested in buying the mem ? I've been thinking about it and discussing it since the whole TrasH thing started. The obvious choice is another supermarket (to keep/ease the planning process) but Tesco are also cutting back, Asda won't want it as it's too small and the low-price supermarkets won't want it as it's too big. Housing would work, but the planning process would be hit by the same NIMBYs who held up Sainsburys and are there any developers who want those problems, especially with massive new housing projects just up the road at Filton? Probably not. Maybe we should just go back to the whole 'too small Velodrome' idea...
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Post by Finnish Gas on Jul 5, 2014 18:28:44 GMT
Why is Sainsbury's Horfield not included in their promotional "Stores in Development" which includes sites/refurbishments that do not even have planning consent? Supermarkets -
Sainsbury’s is always looking at opportunities to bring new supermarkets to more communities around the country. Our supermarkets provide a range of our food products, and in our bigger stores homeware, electrical and our Tu clothing range. They generate employment and often provide a regeneration focus for areas of towns and cities. These pages show many of our proposals for new supermarkets around the country and keep you up to date with the latest news on their development. Stores in development South EastBishop’s Waltham Colchester Dagenham Edenbridge Godalming Greenwich Hook Nine Elms Olney Richmond Taplow Thanet Waterlooville Watford Dome Whitechapel South WestBath Cheddar Portishead Street Tewkesbury Wadebridge MidlandsGorleston Hamstead Huntingdon Market Drayton Northfield Oakham Shrewsbury Thrapston West Bridgford Whittlesey Wolverhampton ScotlandHaddington Perth South Ayr NorthAlsager Ambleside Barnsley Blackpool, Talbot Road Glasshoughton Kendal Liverpool, Rice Lane Southport York WalesHaverfordwest Mold Business strategyThe company's strategy centres around five areas of focus, which are underpinned our strong heritage and brand. Shirt by TU Introduce a siteWe are actively pursuing new sites to expand our convenience store portfolio across the UK. Help us to open new stores by introducing a site we are not yet aware of. www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/about-us/store-development/supermarkets/
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Post by basel on Jul 5, 2014 18:35:06 GMT
Why is Sainsbury's Horfield not included in their promotional "Stores in Development" which includes sites/refurbishments that do not even have planning consent? Supermarkets -
Sainsbury’s is always looking at opportunities to bring new supermarkets to more communities around the country. Our supermarkets provide a range of our food products, and in our bigger stores homeware, electrical and our Tu clothing range. They generate employment and often provide a regeneration focus for areas of towns and cities. These pages show many of our proposals for new supermarkets around the country and keep you up to date with the latest news on their development. Stores in development South EastBishop’s Waltham Colchester Dagenham Edenbridge Godalming Greenwich Hook Nine Elms Olney Richmond Taplow Thanet Waterlooville Watford Dome Whitechapel South WestBath Cheddar Portishead Street Tewkesbury Wadebridge MidlandsGorleston Hamstead Huntingdon Market Drayton Northfield Oakham Shrewsbury Thrapston West Bridgford Whittlesey Wolverhampton ScotlandHaddington Perth South Ayr NorthAlsager Ambleside Barnsley Blackpool, Talbot Road Glasshoughton Kendal Liverpool, Rice Lane Southport York WalesHaverfordwest Mold Business strategyThe company's strategy centres around five areas of focus, which are underpinned our strong heritage and brand. Shirt by TU Introduce a siteWe are actively pursuing new sites to expand our convenience store portfolio across the UK. Help us to open new stores by introducing a site we are not yet aware of. www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/about-us/store-development/supermarkets/Oops! This does appear to be strong evidence that the project maybe in big trouble.
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Post by therealist on Jul 5, 2014 18:48:16 GMT
Ah, good spot Finnish. A good question, why isn't it included? Anyone?
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Post by Finnish Gas on Jul 5, 2014 18:49:34 GMT
WadebridgeIt is with regret that Sainsbury's must make the following announcement about its planned Wadebridge store. We can confirm that work on our planned Wadebridge store will not be completed this year. Over the coming weeks we will complete site work and make the area safe and secure. We recently announced a small reduction in the number of new stores to be built in 2014 and have with regret decided not to progress plans.We are hugely appreciative of the support we have received from the community and understand this will be disappointing to many people. We will be reviewing our programme of new stores for future years and hope to be able to make an announcement about our plans for Wadebridge in the coming months. CORMAC’s highways works will continue and are not directly affected by this announcement. For further information, please do not hesitate to contact the community relations team. They can be contacted on 0800 130 3270 (09:00am to 5:30pm Monday to Friday) or by email: wadebridge@sainsburys.co.uk. For information regarding the road works, Cormac has a 24 hour freephone number which is 0300 1234 222. www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/about-us/store-development/supermarkets/south-west/wadebridge/
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 5, 2014 18:51:55 GMT
Why is Sainsbury's Horfield not included in their promotional "Stores in Development" which includes sites/refurbishments that do not even have planning consent? Supermarkets -
Sainsbury’s is always looking at opportunities to bring new supermarkets to more communities around the country. Our supermarkets provide a range of our food products, and in our bigger stores homeware, electrical and our Tu clothing range. They generate employment and often provide a regeneration focus for areas of towns and cities. These pages show many of our proposals for new supermarkets around the country and keep you up to date with the latest news on their development. Stores in development South EastBishop’s Waltham Colchester Dagenham Edenbridge Godalming Greenwich Hook Nine Elms Olney Richmond Taplow Thanet Waterlooville Watford Dome Whitechapel South WestBath Cheddar Portishead Street Tewkesbury Wadebridge MidlandsGorleston Hamstead Huntingdon Market Drayton Northfield Oakham Shrewsbury Thrapston West Bridgford Whittlesey Wolverhampton ScotlandHaddington Perth South Ayr NorthAlsager Ambleside Barnsley Blackpool, Talbot Road Glasshoughton Kendal Liverpool, Rice Lane Southport York WalesHaverfordwest Mold Business strategyThe company's strategy centres around five areas of focus, which are underpinned our strong heritage and brand. Shirt by TU Introduce a siteWe are actively pursuing new sites to expand our convenience store portfolio across the UK. Help us to open new stores by introducing a site we are not yet aware of. www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/about-us/store-development/supermarkets/Oops! This does appear to be strong evidence that the project maybe in big trouble. [b It isn't being developed for at least a year so why would it? They do have a special site for it though. www.sainsburys-horfield.co.uk
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Post by basel on Jul 5, 2014 18:54:24 GMT
Oops! This does appear to be strong evidence that the project maybe in big trouble. [b It isn't being developed for at least a year so why would it? They do have a special site for it though. www.sainsburys-horfield.co.ukFair enough,it makes sense. Good,hopefully.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 5, 2014 18:55:01 GMT
WadebridgeIt is with regret that Sainsbury's must make the following announcement about its planned Wadebridge store. We can confirm that work on our planned Wadebridge store will not be completed this year. Over the coming weeks we will complete site work and make the area safe and secure. We recently announced a small reduction in the number of new stores to be built in 2014 and have with regret decided not to progress plans.We are hugely appreciative of the support we have received from the community and understand this will be disappointing to many people. We will be reviewing our programme of new stores for future years and hope to be able to make an announcement about our plans for Wadebridge in the coming months. CORMAC’s highways works will continue and are not directly affected by this announcement. For further information, please do not hesitate to contact the community relations team. They can be contacted on 0800 130 3270 (09:00am to 5:30pm Monday to Friday) or by email: wadebridge@sainsburys.co.uk. For information regarding the road works, Cormac has a 24 hour freephone number which is 0300 1234 222. www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/about-us/store-development/supermarkets/south-west/wadebridge/ Wadebridge is nothing like Bristol and they have said they will still build large stores where it will help the community and where they can have houses etc with the store.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 18:57:24 GMT
Just a couple of points. The fans are NOT in open revolt. As has been said many times some keyboard warriors are , the rest of us are waiting anxiously for answers. Even at the next Q&A there will be no gobbling off because people at an open forum are no longer anonymous. There are confidentiality clauses in place and that includes UWE. This was confirmed by NH at the meeting before a game last season. At the moment I still believe it will go ahead, simply because it would be to easy to 'leak' the downside. Besides, if it's not going ahead, why is the Q&A still going ahead? The first inkling of a loss of UWE would be the cancelling of the Q&A. No UWE no football club. Simples The biggest problem at the moment is the one we have had for years. NO COMMUNICTION. As for Henbury Gas, I don't know why you bother mate. I don't anymore i leave it to the other forum now, at least i don't get shouted down
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Post by Finnish Gas on Jul 5, 2014 19:32:59 GMT
WadebridgeIt is with regret that Sainsbury's must make the following announcement about its planned Wadebridge store. We can confirm that work on our planned Wadebridge store will not be completed this year. Over the coming weeks we will complete site work and make the area safe and secure. We recently announced a small reduction in the number of new stores to be built in 2014 and have with regret decided not to progress plans.We are hugely appreciative of the support we have received from the community and understand this will be disappointing to many people. We will be reviewing our programme of new stores for future years and hope to be able to make an announcement about our plans for Wadebridge in the coming months. CORMAC’s highways works will continue and are not directly affected by this announcement. For further information, please do not hesitate to contact the community relations team. They can be contacted on 0800 130 3270 (09:00am to 5:30pm Monday to Friday) or by email: wadebridge@sainsburys.co.uk. For information regarding the road works, Cormac has a 24 hour freephone number which is 0300 1234 222. www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/about-us/store-development/supermarkets/south-west/wadebridge/ Wadebridge is nothing like Bristol and they have said they will still build large stores where it will help the community and where they can have houses etc with the store. Ignore Wadebridge - just refer to the words I have highlighted in bold which covers Sainsbury's current policy.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 5, 2014 19:34:12 GMT
Yes Sainsbury's have pulled out of some store developments, I read plans for 15 stores had been shelved. However this is by no means a majority of their larger supermarket developments. Indeed mixed schemes like that on Filton Avenue are their preference.
The list that Finnish linked to is not complete as there are some other developments, e.g there is one at Milton Keynes that is not mentioned, there may be others. The Sainsbury's Horfield micro site is still live, but interestingly/worryingly it is not linked to their main site.
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Post by Gashead on Jul 5, 2014 19:37:00 GMT
Was it ever in that list? That's the key as to whether the project has hit the buffers.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 5, 2014 20:11:27 GMT
Wadebridge is nothing like Bristol and they have said they will still build large stores where it will help the community and where they can have houses etc with the store. Ignore Wadebridge - just refer to the words I have highlighted in bold which covers Sainsbury's current policy. Exactly you read the words you highlighted SMALL reduction, not stopping all large stores and Wadbridge would have been one of the less profitable not like Horfield. They also said they are going to build a lot more of the small stores but they will still build large stores with houses like the one in Wolves.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 5, 2014 20:37:36 GMT
That list doesn't seem up todate as Sainsbury's have just announced they are starting work on 100 sq foot store in Selly Oak, Birmingham. In addition the Birmingham Northfield store must have been open well over 12 months.
The fact Sainsbury's have announced they are pressing ahead with the Selly Oak store indicates they are still building large stores and that building new stores are not on hold pending the new chairman's arrival. Perhaps things will become clearer when Sainsbury's give their latest results update this week.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 5, 2014 22:54:40 GMT
What? There is something other than curry houses in Selly Oak? What's the world coming to?
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 6, 2014 5:53:29 GMT
Just a couple of points. The fans are NOT in open revolt. As has been said many times some keyboard warriors are , the rest of us are waiting anxiously for answers. Even at the next Q&A there will be no gobbling off because people at an open forum are no longer anonymous. There are confidentiality clauses in place and that includes UWE. This was confirmed by NH at the meeting before a game laist season. At the moment I still believe it will go ahead, simply because it would be to easy to 'leak' the downside. Besides, if it's not going ahead, why is the Q&A still going ahead? The first inkling of a loss of UWE would be the cancelling of the Q&A. No UWE no football club. Simples The biggest problem at the moment is the one we have had for years. NO COMMUNICTION. As for Henbury Gas, I don't know why you bother mate. I don't anymore i leave it to the other forum now, at least i don't get shouted down As i say, i think people are frustrated waiting for the good or bad news. Yes you may post sething in good faith, but recently it is a lot of boy crying wolf lately. When things dont come of, people will become sceptical and you are bound to cop some flack
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