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Post by droitwichgas on Sept 25, 2015 19:54:50 GMT
But the thing is that the JTS predictions from a few days ago didn't disappoint many, and were relatively accurate . . . well, as far as they went they were at any rate. But now having been reluctantly ''outed'' (it seems to me), what happens next to their approach? Or is that it, so to speak? Can we expect the Birmingham-based consortium to break cover any time soon, and firm-up their rather limp approach with a more robust enquiry? Perhaps they already have, who knows? And what of the chairman, is he still "angered" by the claims and reluctant to "dignify the rumours with a response?'' Or even as we speak are they crossing the t's and dotting the i's on the contract? That would be a step too far in my opinion, much too hasty. We have all been raised on a diet of slow movement by successive Boards, to the point of them being almost sedate in their approach to virtually everything, whether on or off the field of play. I suspect that we're in for a guerilla-type campaign, when it does eventually get going. But when on earth will that be? Surely if the consortium does exist now is the time to strike by going public whilst NH appears to be on the ropes, particularly when he's even denied a consortium exists?
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Post by chelt_gas on Sept 25, 2015 23:11:07 GMT
I wonder what would happen if sainsbury invested and built the stadium independently?
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Post by interceptor on Sept 26, 2015 7:13:30 GMT
I wonder what would happen if sainsbury invested and built the stadium independently? I might be wrong but I think the trolleys, isles and tills would hamper the play. I guess we would win every home match though as we would now how to play it, like Oldham did in the 80's with their AstroTurf pitch!
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Post by singupgas on Sept 26, 2015 8:19:27 GMT
Is there anyone outside the ground with pitchforks then, just got mine out the shed... Come on the Gas, 3pts would be lovely!
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Post by michaelb on Sept 26, 2015 8:32:02 GMT
But the thing is that the JTS predictions from a few days ago didn't disappoint many, and were relatively accurate . . . well, as far as they went they were at any rate. But now having been reluctantly ''outed'' (it seems to me), what happens next to their approach? Or is that it, so to speak? Can we expect the Birmingham-based consortium to break cover any time soon, and firm-up their rather limp approach with a more robust enquiry? Perhaps they already have, who knows? And what of the chairman, is he still "angered" by the claims and reluctant to "dignify the rumours with a response?'' Or even as we speak are they crossing the t's and dotting the i's on the contract? That would be a step too far in my opinion, much too hasty. We have all been raised on a diet of slow movement by successive Boards, to the point of them being almost sedate in their approach to virtually everything, whether on or off the field of play. I suspect that we're in for a guerilla-type campaign, when it does eventually get going. But when on earth will that be? Surely if the consortium does exist now is the time to strike by going public whilst NH appears to be on the ropes, particularly when he's even denied a consortium exists? I believe you are right, especially as the Evening Post stated they had tried to contact the consortium or the third parties with no response, it kind of puts the ball firmly in their court and making Nick look like he is playing a blinder !
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 26, 2015 10:08:45 GMT
But the thing is that the JTS predictions from a few days ago didn't disappoint many, and were relatively accurate . . . well, as far as they went they were at any rate. But now having been reluctantly ''outed'' (it seems to me), what happens next to their approach? Or is that it, so to speak? Can we expect the Birmingham-based consortium to break cover any time soon, and firm-up their rather limp approach with a more robust enquiry? Perhaps they already have, who knows? And what of the chairman, is he still "angered" by the claims and reluctant to "dignify the rumours with a response?'' Or even as we speak are they crossing the t's and dotting the i's on the contract? That would be a step too far in my opinion, much too hasty. We have all been raised on a diet of slow movement by successive Boards, to the point of them being almost sedate in their approach to virtually everything, whether on or off the field of play. I suspect that we're in for a guerilla-type campaign, when it does eventually get going. But when on earth will that be? Surely if the consortium does exist now is the time to strike by going public whilst NH appears to be on the ropes, particularly when he's even denied a consortium exists? Has he? I must have missed that!
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Post by brizzle on Sept 26, 2015 12:31:55 GMT
Surely if the consortium does exist now is the time to strike by going public whilst NH appears to be on the ropes, particularly when he's even denied a consortium exists? I believe you are right, especially as the Evening Post stated they had tried to contact the consortium or the third parties with no response, it kind of puts the ball firmly in their court and making Nick look like he is playing a blinder ! After being tipped a very public wink on this forum, they all now appear to have gone to ground. I wonder if there will be any more public revelations in the near future, or will it all just die a death?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 12:54:20 GMT
I believe you are right, especially as the Evening Post stated they had tried to contact the consortium or the third parties with no response, it kind of puts the ball firmly in their court and making Nick look like he is playing a blinder ! After being tipped a very public wink on this forum, they all now appear to have gone to ground. I wonder if there will be any more public revelations in the near future, or will it all just die a death? At some point, if these mystery people don't show their hand, Jon will have to decide if he has been used and consider naming names.
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Post by onedaytheuwe on Sept 26, 2015 13:16:55 GMT
Also who is to say there ISN'T any collaboration in order to keep the Gasmythology going ?. I noticed two very interesting issues regarding so called projects in the last 30 years . Firstly : whenever we fail on a project we never own up or evaluate how it went wrong. Secondly: in order to divert attention away from the previous project : certain people with certain information feed the machine by breaking rumours and creating a gasmytholoy.
The fact is the ground hasn't changed in 18 years. The club's debts are eye-watering and the team is battling against part time football. If all these rumours are so correct why aren't we like Swansea Cardiff Reading Bournemouth ?. It's all too convenient to me...
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Post by LPGas on Sept 26, 2015 18:16:24 GMT
I really don't believe anything about the "consortium" If you want to buy the club, it's the majority of shares however much that is, then you need at least £15 to £20 mill to buy the Mem whilst building the UWE which will cost at least £40 mill and then you need to pay off all the debts, and it is likely you will never see a penny in return. So who has £80 million to waste? Admittedly you will get your money back on the Mem but it is a lot of cash to give away, although you would please about 7,000 people in the Bristol area Don't think anything will happen until we have been to court Where are you getting £80m from? Are our debts £20m now?
More like about £45m (they would sell the Mem!), and in return you get a stadium, which has an income and a value.
Well you will have to buy the club, and the Mem, to keep going whilst the UWE is being built, I suppose the 2 are around £20 mill. The UWE build will be more like £50 mill this time next year, and then there is the team and all the employees wages. Given that we always lose £500k plus all the loans that are outstanding say £7 mill, so about £77 and a half million. Yes we can get some money back on selling the MEM but who really wants it? Well housing probably at £15 mill . Anyway don't think it is going to happen
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Post by brizzle on Sept 26, 2015 18:23:43 GMT
Where are you getting £80m from? Are our debts £20m now?
More like about £45m (they would sell the Mem!), and in return you get a stadium, which has an income and a value.
Well you will have to buy the club, and the Mem, to keep going whilst the UWE is being built, I suppose the 2 are around £20 mill. The UWE build will be more like £50 mill this time next year, and then there is the team and all the employees wages. Given that we always lose £500k plus all the loans that are outstanding say £7 mill, so about £77 and a half million. Yes we can get some money back on selling the MEM but who really wants it? Well housing probably at £15 mill . Anyway don't think it is going to happenMe neither, given your projected figures. Is it time to move on perhaps, or attract some genuine (and up-front) investors?
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 26, 2015 21:30:53 GMT
Higgs didnt even rubbish it in bis weekly notes. Its either not worth talking about of there is something going on
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Post by droitwichgas on Sept 27, 2015 8:00:37 GMT
But if he does want to keep the rumours going why would he rubbish them? You just sense somebody investing £50m in Rovers, or any lower league for that matter, is just too good to be true.
If it's investors rather than a wealthy fan surely they'll want to see a return on thier investment, I just can't see how they'll get a 5% return at Rovers any time soon. As getting to the Championship will take a minimum of 5 years.
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Post by Igitur on Sept 27, 2015 8:08:42 GMT
But if he does want to keep the rumours going why would he rubbish them? You just sense somebody investing £50m in Rovers, or any lower league for that matter, is just too good to be true. If it's investors rather than a wealthy fan surely they'll want to see a return on thier investment, I just can't see how they'll get a 5% return at Rovers any time soon. As getting to the Championship will take a minimum of 5 years. It's not really about Rovers being in the Championship, it's the new stadium and its income, mind you that could be closer to 5 years as well!
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Post by Thatslife on Sept 27, 2015 10:18:12 GMT
I wonder what would happen if sainsbury invested and built the stadium independently? Not Sainsbury but ...................any outfit with that kind of money doesn't need BRFC to build a stadium ,if the figures add up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 13:04:25 GMT
I wonder what would happen if sainsbury invested and built the stadium independently? Not Sainsbury but ...................any outfit with that kind of money doesn't need BRFC to build a stadium ,if the figures add up. But doesn't that largely defeat the object? We had decades of 'until we own our own ground....'. Then 'wait til we get the UWE stadium'. Now people are imagining a mysterious third party building us a free stadium and declaring it the hush hush triumph of behind the veil forward thinking they're so convinced about. So we go from owning a dump of a stadium which we only ever bother to half fill to renting a pitch and three times more seats than we need. Was that always the objective?
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Post by gasheadpirate on Sept 27, 2015 13:10:11 GMT
But if he does want to keep the rumours going why would he rubbish them? You just sense somebody investing £50m in Rovers, or any lower league for that matter, is just too good to be true. If it's investors rather than a wealthy fan surely they'll want to see a return on thier investment, I just can't see how they'll get a 5% return at Rovers any time soon. As getting to the Championship will take a minimum of 5 years. Overheard Nick talking to a group of people in the Dennis Dunford bar that there was no bid for the club.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 13:15:39 GMT
Where are you getting £80m from? Are our debts £20m now?
More like about £45m (they would sell the Mem!), and in return you get a stadium, which has an income and a value.
Well you will have to buy the club, and the Mem, to keep going whilst the UWE is being built, I suppose the 2 are around £20 mill. The UWE build will be more like £50 mill this time next year, and then there is the team and all the employees wages. Given that we always lose £500k plus all the loans that are outstanding say £7 mill, so about £77 and a half million. Yes we can get some money back on selling the MEM but who really wants it? Well housing probably at £15 mill . Anyway don't think it is going to happen That's cowboy builder maths: Ridiculous number reverse engineered as fantasy figure + (fantasy figure x double count), rounded up by about 40%. I'd get another estimate.
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Post by brizzle on Sept 27, 2015 14:11:21 GMT
But if he does want to keep the rumours going why would he rubbish them? You just sense somebody investing £50m in Rovers, or any lower league for that matter, is just too good to be true. If it's investors rather than a wealthy fan surely they'll want to see a return on thier investment, I just can't see how they'll get a 5% return at Rovers any time soon. As getting to the Championship will take a minimum of 5 years. Overheard Nick talking to a group of people in the Dennis Dunford bar that there was no bid for the club. Well, he would say that wouldn't he? It's all covered by the confidentiality clause you see.
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Post by Thatslife on Sept 27, 2015 14:15:45 GMT
Not Sainsbury but ...................any outfit with that kind of money doesn't need BRFC to build a stadium ,if the figures add up. But doesn't that largely defeat the object? We had decades of 'until we own our own ground....'. Then 'wait til we get the UWE stadium'. Now people are imagining a mysterious third party building us a free stadium and declaring it the hush hush triumph of behind the veil forward thinking they're so convinced about. So we go from owning a dump of a stadium which we only ever bother to half fill to renting a pitch and three times more seats than we need. Was that always the objective? Yes it does but don't forget that ANYONE with the money can build a stadium and doesn't have to involve BRFC at all
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