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Post by Angas on Feb 22, 2016 9:46:53 GMT
I think someone posted that on here or the other forum at the time. I took it to mean they intended to sell to Sainsburys and we're going through the motions so there wouldn't be a problem if the appeal was won. Yes that's how I took it at the time as well. But re-reading it now, the picture looks somewhat different?
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Post by Curly Wurly on Feb 22, 2016 11:18:53 GMT
I think someone posted that on here or the other forum at the time. I took it to mean they intended to sell to Sainsburys and we're going through the motions so there wouldn't be a problem if the appeal was won. Yes that's how I took it at the time as well. But re-reading it now, the picture looks somewhat different? Of course the Mem has not been sold with the Al Qadi's taking a majority share in the holding company, but probably more to the point, the new ownership need to be aware of the ACV clock ticking, i.e. Sell within 18months, or go through another moratorium period.* A trivial inconvenience, thanks to the Bishopston society. As well as the relief of a brighter future for our club, I have an overwhelming desire to put two fingers up to Radice, Carstairs, Scrafton, Willingham, Mike Coupe, Justin King et al., but perhaps their malice towards Rovers has actually saved us. *[edit - I'm not sure whether this circumstance is covered in the ACV legislation or not?]
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Post by Angas on Feb 22, 2016 13:04:07 GMT
Yes that's how I took it at the time as well. But re-reading it now, the picture looks somewhat different? Of course the Mem has not been sold with the Al Qadi's taking a majority share in the holding company, but probably more to the point, the new ownership need to be aware of the ACV clock ticking, i.e. Sell within 18months, or go through another moratorium period.* A trivial inconvenience, thanks to the Bishopston society. As well as the relief of a brighter future for our club, I have an overwhelming desire to put two fingers up to Radice, Carstairs, Scrafton, Willingham, Mike Coupe, Justin King et al., but perhaps their malice towards Rovers has actually saved us. *[edit - I'm not sure whether this circumstance is covered in the ACV legislation or not?] Strictly speaking we have sold the ground, haven't we? It's difficult to know - maybe BSS can answer that for us. If anyone is in contact with him could they also ask why the press conference wasn't allowed to be broadcast live. Just for curiosity's sake.
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Post by Thatslife on Feb 22, 2016 14:50:59 GMT
Yes that's how I took it at the time as well. But re-reading it now, the picture looks somewhat different? Of course the Mem has not been sold with the Al Qadi's taking a majority share in the holding company, but probably more to the point, the new ownership need to be aware of the ACV clock ticking, i.e. Sell within 18months, or go through another moratorium period.* A trivial inconvenience, thanks to the Bishopston society. As well as the relief of a brighter future for our club, I have an overwhelming desire to put two fingers up to Radice, Carstairs, Scrafton, Willingham, Mike Coupe, Justin King et al., but perhaps their malice towards Rovers has actually saved us.
*[edit - I'm not sure whether this circumstance is covered in the ACV legislation or not?] Agree with your sentiment, these interfering busy bodies have done us no good what so ever but I don't believe their action saved us. What really annoys me about the hypercritical Ms Radice is that, yes she is an elected representative and yes she is there because of democracy but then challenges planning permission which was passed by the same democracy. So she is democratic........except when she it doesn't suit her
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Post by Curly Wurly on Feb 22, 2016 19:22:28 GMT
Of course the Mem has not been sold with the Al Qadi's taking a majority share in the holding company, but probably more to the point, the new ownership need to be aware of the ACV clock ticking, i.e. Sell within 18months, or go through another moratorium period.* A trivial inconvenience, thanks to the Bishopston society. As well as the relief of a brighter future for our club, I have an overwhelming desire to put two fingers up to Radice, Carstairs, Scrafton, Willingham, Mike Coupe, Justin King et al., but perhaps their malice towards Rovers has actually saved us. *[edit - I'm not sure whether this circumstance is covered in the ACV legislation or not?] Strictly speaking we have sold the ground, haven't we? It's difficult to know - maybe BSS can answer that for us. If anyone is in contact with him could they also ask why the press conference wasn't allowed to be broadcast live. Just for curiosity's sake. That's why I hedged my bets. The Memorial Ground owners are still Bristol Rovers (1883) Ltd., so I would imagine there is no change to the ACV status, but it does raise a series of questions.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Feb 22, 2016 19:25:47 GMT
Of course the Mem has not been sold with the Al Qadi's taking a majority share in the holding company, but probably more to the point, the new ownership need to be aware of the ACV clock ticking, i.e. Sell within 18months, or go through another moratorium period.* A trivial inconvenience, thanks to the Bishopston society. As well as the relief of a brighter future for our club, I have an overwhelming desire to put two fingers up to Radice, Carstairs, Scrafton, Willingham, Mike Coupe, Justin King et al., but perhaps their malice towards Rovers has actually saved us.
*[edit - I'm not sure whether this circumstance is covered in the ACV legislation or not?] Agree with your sentiment, these interfering busy bodies have done us no good what so ever but I don't believe their action saved us. What really annoys me about the hypercritical Ms Radice is that, yes she is an elected representative and yes she is there because of democracy but then challenges planning permission which was passed by the same democracy. So she is democratic........except when she it doesn't suit her All of what you say, but the fact that these interfering busy bodies and unscrupulous businessmen are now pretty powerless when it comes to Rovers gives a modicum of pleasure.
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Post by Angas on Feb 22, 2016 21:14:24 GMT
Strictly speaking we have sold the ground, haven't we? It's difficult to know - maybe BSS can answer that for us. If anyone is in contact with him could they also ask why the press conference wasn't allowed to be broadcast live. Just for curiosity's sake. That's why I hedged my bets. The Memorial Ground owners are still Bristol Rovers (1883) Ltd., so I would imagine there is no change to the ACV status, but it does raise a series of questions. Yes, that 'minor detail' finally clicked with me earlier. I think you're right - no change as far as the ACV is concerned. I still suspect it delayed the takeover process though. Which is quite funny really, when you consider the new owners actually don't seem so desperate as the old ones were to build a huge supermarket on the site. If only Ms Radice & co had realised that they could have saved themselves a whole lot of bother
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Post by pauljlac on Mar 16, 2016 19:10:44 GMT
What a turn around in fortunes. Back in February this post had over 100,000 views with everyone concerned as to what plan B was in place should the appeal fail. Most of us feared for the future of the club with large debts and a Wonga loan repayment day looming. It is now the eve of what was to be a vital day in the clubs history, but tonight I can hardly see a mention on the forum. How great is it that this result has virtually paled into insignificance with the great things that are now taking place at our club. And long may this good news continue. UTG!
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Post by chippenhamgas on Mar 16, 2016 19:21:13 GMT
What a turn around in fortunes. Back in February this post had over 100,000 views with everyone concerned as to what plan B was in place should the appeal fail. Most of us feared for the future of the club with large debts and a Wonga loan repayment day looming. It is now the eve of what was to be a vital day in the clubs history, but tonight I can hardly see a mention on the forum. How great is it that this result has virtually paled into insignificance with the great things that are now taking place at our club. And long may this good news continue. UTG! Tomorrow could have been the end of our football club, every fan would have been glued to their phone at 10am anxiously waiting for the judge to put on the black cap. Now most people will forget about it until they see it on the TV in the evening. We have gone 360, we are extremely lucky, and i keep waking up every morning wondering if it's all real!
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Post by dido on Mar 16, 2016 21:52:46 GMT
360 - so nothing's changed, then?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 21:59:49 GMT
360 - so nothing's changed, then? Nope, still using Toni's keyboard.
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Post by lympstonegas on Mar 17, 2016 7:10:26 GMT
What a turn around in fortunes. Back in February this post had over 100,000 views with everyone concerned as to what plan B was in place should the appeal fail. Most of us feared for the future of the club with large debts and a Wonga loan repayment day looming. It is now the eve of what was to be a vital day in the clubs history, but tonight I can hardly see a mention on the forum. How great is it that this result has virtually paled into insignificance with the great things that are now taking place at our club. And long may this good news continue. UTG! Tomorrow could have been the end of our football club, every fan would have been glued to their phone at 10am anxiously waiting for the judge to put on the black cap. Now most people will forget about it until they see it on the TV in the evening. We have gone 360, we are extremely lucky, and i keep waking up every morning wondering if it's all real! Yep agree but I still want us to come out if this with some kind of victory over Sainsburys for all heartache and pain that horrible company has caused every Gashead
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Post by gasolder on Mar 17, 2016 7:26:00 GMT
Yep agree but I still want us to come out if this with some kind of victory over Sainsburys for all heartache and pain that horrible company has caused every Gashead
Read more: gasheads.org/thread/3951/plan-appeal-case?page=49#ixzz438vXLAEFWhereas I have sympathy for your statement, Sainsbury are between a rock and a hard place. It is no fault of theirs that the recent recession caused a massive demographic change to the way people shop. The big supermarket chain principle has been so badly damaged that the main contenders are searching for ways to get out of trouble and protect their shareholders. This is a business decision by them which they probably don't find anymore palatable than Rovers supporters. But business is a hard business with tough decisions to be made. Having said all that I hope that the Appeal decision goes in favour of Rovers today and Sainsburys are faced with a plethora of similar claims from similar cases using this case as a precedent, because IMO the way they have behaved stinks!
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Post by c4h10 on Mar 17, 2016 8:40:40 GMT
Only an opinion (though shared by many, I know), but I am convinced that Sainsbury's only bid way over the top of the stadium's real value in order to see-off the competition, and in the knowledge that they could get out of it if they wished. Whatever the outcome, I won't be using Sainsbury's again. Tell me that that is futile, but, yes, I will do futile with the best of 'em!
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Post by droitwichgas on Mar 17, 2016 8:49:18 GMT
Yep agree but I still want us to come out if this with some kind of victory over Sainsburys for all heartache and pain that horrible company has caused every Gashead
Read more: gasheads.org/thread/3951/plan-appeal-case?page=49#ixzz438vXLAEFWhereas I have sympathy for your statement, Sainsbury are between a rock and a hard place. It is no fault of theirs that the recent recession caused a massive demographic change to the way people shop. The big supermarket chain principle has been so badly damaged that the main contenders are searching for ways to get out of trouble and protect their shareholders. This is a business decision by them which they probably don't find anymore palatable than Rovers supporters. But business is a hard business with tough decisions to be made. Having said all that I hope that the Appeal decision goes in favour of Rovers today and Sainsburys are faced with a plethora of similar claims from similar cases using this case as a precedent, because IMO the way they have behaved stinks! Sainsbury's have just bid £1.2B for Argos it's hardly likley to have bankrupted them to buy the Mem for the contractual price and then sell it off if they didn't want to build the store? If the verdict is given in their favour today they've just found an underhnd way to get out of what was a binding contract signed in good faith by the club.
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Post by c4h10 on Mar 17, 2016 9:17:03 GMT
I do hope that those who say "It doesn't matter any more, now that we have wealthy owners", will remember that Sainsbury's would have casually watched Bristol Rovers go to the wall. Yes, their first duty is to their shareholders, but indifference to the rest of society doesn't go down well with me.
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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 17, 2016 9:34:32 GMT
Yep agree but I still want us to come out if this with some kind of victory over Sainsburys for all heartache and pain that horrible company has caused every Gashead
Read more: gasheads.org/thread/3951/plan-appeal-case?page=49#ixzz438vXLAEFWhereas I have sympathy for your statement, Sainsbury are between a rock and a hard place. It is no fault of theirs that the recent recession caused a massive demographic change to the way people shop. The big supermarket chain principle has been so badly damaged that the main contenders are searching for ways to get out of trouble and protect their shareholders. This is a business decision by them which they probably don't find anymore palatable than Rovers supporters. But business is a hard business with tough decisions to be made. Having said all that I hope that the Appeal decision goes in favour of Rovers today and Sainsburys are faced with a plethora of similar claims from similar cases using this case as a precedent, because IMO the way they have behaved stinks! Sainsbury's have just bid £1.2B for Argos it's hardly likley to have bankrupted them to buy the Mem for the contractual price and then sell it off if they didn't want to build the store? If the verdict is given in their favour today they've just found an underhnd way to get out of what was a binding contract signed in good faith by the club. Not quite true they will have exited the contract under the conditions set out as agreed in the contract and ratified by 1/4 judges
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 17, 2016 17:49:56 GMT
I do hope that those who say "It doesn't matter any more, now that we have wealthy owners", will remember that Sainsbury's would have casually watched Bristol Rovers go to the wall. Yes, their first duty is to their shareholders, but indifference to the rest of society doesn't go down well with me. How does the attempt at changing the terms of the contract by Watola & Higgs sit with you or do you really believe this was ALL Sainsburys fault ? Fact is that, even had we won, Nick Higgs couldn't have built the UWE as the external debt was much more than none lol. This has been a very unsavoury affair and I am glad that it's over. It really is time to move on and personally I am glad it has not been a long wait I to the new owners watch
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