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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 15:55:52 GMT
I'm not going to argue, I won't start a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
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Post by Armitage Shanks on Sept 9, 2015 16:48:06 GMT
We got 20 mins out of Wayne Andrews before he got his leg broken.
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Post by biggsy on Sept 9, 2015 17:06:57 GMT
Shocking - 30 posts and no ones mentioned nigel pierre! If only he'd got his work permit..... we'd be champions league by now..... the 4th post mentions him! by o2o2bo2ba
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Sept 9, 2015 17:14:26 GMT
Derek Riordon.Never saw him actually touch the ball or break into a run at any point.
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Post by kwoodgas on Sept 9, 2015 17:17:00 GMT
. . . and from the article,who was Jon Beswetherick? Wiki has him listed as having never played for us, that's incorrect. He made quite a few appearances. Played in the away game at Norwich and got turned inside out all night long. Signed by Graydoom I think. I stand to be corrected but pretty sure he was an Atkins signing on a short term deal. We had Jon Bass and Liam Burn around the same time.
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Post by irishrover on Sept 9, 2015 17:21:01 GMT
We got 20 mins out of Wayne Andrews before he got his leg broken. Yep - and never has a player been so rated based on such little output. The number of comments at the time 'it would have been different if Wayne Andrew had stayed fit', 'with Wayne Andrew we were a much better side' etc. Never seen a better example of the adage that a player is never as good as when he isn't in the side.
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Post by kwoodgas on Sept 9, 2015 17:29:00 GMT
I want to make a case to make Steve Cotterill the manager of this team. Feel free to correct me if I've remembered this wrongly but I feel this is what happened when Graydon left:
Around 1.30pm the team bus arrived for a game at Rochdale minus Graydon, no-one would be drawn on whether he'd left or simply had a personal problem or was unwell.
We drew the game 2-2, having been 2-0 down under the watch of Phil Bater and it was revealed Graydon had in fact left the club.
Twentyman reported there would be a press conference Monday lunchtime and he had a strong belief SC would be named as new manager.
Monday came around and the announcement was Bater would be in charge til the end of the season, which he was apart from the final 5 or so games when Osman/Broadhurst came in with Atkins overseeing things.
Gavin Crowe will be the physio.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 17:38:32 GMT
I want to make a case to make Steve Cotterill the manager of this team. Feel free to correct me if I've remembered this wrongly but I feel this is what happened when Graydon left: Around 1.30pm the team bus arrived for a game at Rochdale minus Graydon, no-one would be drawn on whether he'd left or simply had a personal problem or was unwell. We drew the game 2-2, having been 2-0 down under the watch of Phil Bater and it was revealed Graydon had in fact left the club. Twentyman reported there would be a press conference Monday lunchtime and he had a strong belief SC would be named as new manager. Monday came around and the announcement was Bater would be in charge til the end of the season, which he was apart from the final 5 or so games when Osman/Broadhurst came in with Atkins overseeing things. Gavin Crowe will be the physio. You remember all that from when you were about 8?
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Post by brizzle on Sept 9, 2015 17:48:41 GMT
We got 20 mins out of Wayne Andrews before he got his leg broken. Yep - and never has a player been so rated based on such little output. The number of comments at the time 'it would have been different if Wayne Andrew had stayed fit', 'with Wayne Andrew we were a much better side' etc. Never seen a better example of the adage that a player is never as good as when he isn't in the side. Are you certain that you have the correct player? As I remember it, Wayne Andrews was not match-fit when he signed for us and was given a deadline to prove his fitness before being offered a full contract with BRFC. Unfortunately for him (and the club) he was injured after only about 15 minutes of his debut at Yeovil. There was no great expectation of him prior to the game because of his injury problems, but because he had a good pedigree and had played for some half-decent teams there was a fair bit of optimism that he might do well. Sadly that didn't prove to be the case, and I don't remember too much speculation on what the player might do prior to his debut, and only sympathy for him afterwards. He was just another punt that the club has taken over the years, but to their credit BRFC looked after Wayne very well whilst he was injured.
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Post by kwoodgas on Sept 9, 2015 17:53:55 GMT
I want to make a case to make Steve Cotterill the manager of this team. Feel free to correct me if I've remembered this wrongly but I feel this is what happened when Graydon left: Around 1.30pm the team bus arrived for a game at Rochdale minus Graydon, no-one would be drawn on whether he'd left or simply had a personal problem or was unwell. We drew the game 2-2, having been 2-0 down under the watch of Phil Bater and it was revealed Graydon had in fact left the club. Twentyman reported there would be a press conference Monday lunchtime and he had a strong belief SC would be named as new manager. Monday came around and the announcement was Bater would be in charge til the end of the season, which he was apart from the final 5 or so games when Osman/Broadhurst came in with Atkins overseeing things. Gavin Crowe will be the physio. You remember all that from when you were about 8?
Probably more like 10, but yeh I could probably tell you about Rovers more at that stage of my life than I could about last season!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 17:56:13 GMT
You remember all that from when you were about 8?
Probably more like 10, but yeh I could probably tell you about Rovers more at that stage of my life than I could about last season!
Fair enough, me too!
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Post by tbonegas on Sept 9, 2015 18:07:09 GMT
Ryan Morgan?
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Post by Rex on Sept 9, 2015 18:15:23 GMT
You remember all that from when you were about 8?
Probably more like 10, but yeh I could probably tell you about Rovers more at that stage of my life than I could about last season!
Me too. Give me a team pic from the 70s and I could probably name most-if not all- the players on there. Show me one from the past decade, and I would struggle to name any more than a handful.
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Post by irishrover on Sept 9, 2015 18:17:21 GMT
Yep - and never has a player been so rated based on such little output. The number of comments at the time 'it would have been different if Wayne Andrew had stayed fit', 'with Wayne Andrew we were a much better side' etc. Never seen a better example of the adage that a player is never as good as when he isn't in the side. Are you certain that you have the correct player? As I remember it, Wayne Andrews was not match-fit when he signed for us and was given a deadline to prove his fitness before being offered a full contract with BRFC. Unfortunately for him (and the club) he was injured after only about 15 minutes of his debut at Yeovil. There was no great expectation of him prior to the game because of his injury problems, but because he had a good pedigree and had played for some half-decent teams there was a fair bit of optimism that he might do well. Sadly that didn't prove to be the case, and I don't remember too much speculation on what the player might do prior to his debut, and only sympathy for him afterwards. He was just another punt that the club has taken over the years, but to their credit BRFC looked after Wayne very well whilst he was injured. That's exactly right but I just have this memory of completely OTT posts on forums around that era of people saying that he'd have been a real difference maker if he hadn't gotten injured, that those 15 minutes showed exactly what we'd been missing etc. You couldn't have anything but total sympathy for the guy (in fact I think that was more or less the end of his career) but some of that sympathy was directed into bigging him up so much it began to seem like we'd missed out on seeing the second coming of Pele. I'm not saying he was a poor player at all - just a good example of how the possibility of what a player could be/could have been is sometime out of proportion with reality. Happens with England before every tournament where fans get into frenzied rows about which of 2 decent but very similar squad players should be selected. By the end of the argument people are convinced that if only England had picked Darren Anderton the entire history of English football would be different!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 19:07:18 GMT
Wiki has him listed as having never played for us, that's incorrect. He made quite a few appearances. Played in the away game at Norwich and got turned inside out all night long. Signed by Graydoom I think. I stand to be corrected but pretty sure he was an Atkins signing on a short term deal. We had Jon Bass and Liam Burn around the same time. I honestly don't know for sure who signed him. With our revolving door manager system, if Jon joined in 2004 he could have been signed by Graydon, Bater, Osman/Broadhurst or Atkins.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 19:17:00 GMT
. . . and from the article,who was Jon Beswetherick? Wiki has him listed as having never played for us, that's incorrect. He made quite a few appearances. Played in the away game at Norwich and got turned inside out all night long. Signed by Graydoom I think. He did play at Norwich but that was his only appearance and Wiki correctly doesn't count it under its own criteria because it wasn't a league game. He played in a few of the preseason games in 2004 including, I think, the Isle of Man tournament. I seem to remember he was a popular player with fans that met him (I never did). I think you're conflating him with Jon Bass, who was quite similar but a year or so later (12 league games).
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Post by brizzle on Sept 9, 2015 19:27:18 GMT
Are you certain that you have the correct player? As I remember it, Wayne Andrews was not match-fit when he signed for us and was given a deadline to prove his fitness before being offered a full contract with BRFC. Unfortunately for him (and the club) he was injured after only about 15 minutes of his debut at Yeovil. There was no great expectation of him prior to the game because of his injury problems, but because he had a good pedigree and had played for some half-decent teams there was a fair bit of optimism that he might do well. Sadly that didn't prove to be the case, and I don't remember too much speculation on what the player might do prior to his debut, and only sympathy for him afterwards. He was just another punt that the club has taken over the years, but to their credit BRFC looked after Wayne very well whilst he was injured. That's exactly right but I just have this memory of completely OTT posts on forums around that era of people saying that he'd have been a real difference maker if he hadn't gotten injured, that those 15 minutes showed exactly what we'd been missing etc. You couldn't have anything but total sympathy for the guy (in fact I think that was more or less the end of his career) but some of that sympathy was directed into bigging him up so much it began to seem like we'd missed out on seeing the second coming of Pele. I'm not saying he was a poor player at all - just a good example of how the possibility of what a player could be/could have been is sometime out of proportion with reality. Happens with England before every tournament where fans get into frenzied rows about which of 2 decent but very similar squad players should be selected. By the end of the argument people are convinced that if only England had picked Darren Anderton the entire history of English football would be different! I was at the Yeovil game and was quite looking forward to seeing Andrews play, I expected him to be rusty and he was. Clearly in 15 minutes he didn't have too much of an opportunity to shine, but he did show that he had a bit of class on a couple of occasions. Then Terry Skiverton clattered him in the centre circle of all places, like he was going to do too much damage from there, and that (as they say) was that. Wayne Andrews career was virtually finished there and then, and Skiverton got a yellow. Despite the fact that he was clearly reaching the end of his career, I've always believed that Wayne Andrews may well have turned out to be a good signing for us. I never was convinced by Darren Anderton, pretty to watch sometimes but that's about it. Pele on the other hand . . .
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Post by kwoodgas on Sept 9, 2015 21:47:30 GMT
Iain Turner who played in goal when we got badly beaten by the s**theads testemonial and then never appeared again can go in goal.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 22:05:05 GMT
Iain Turner who played in goal when we got badly beaten by the s***heads testemonial and then never appeared again can go in goal. We had a young lad play in goal, probably around 2000~2002, no idea what his name was, but only saw him once. With the ball in his hands he couldn't kick it as far as the halfway line, he tried a couple of goalkicks, they got maybe 30 yards, so a defender took over taking goalkicks. Did I just imagine all of this or has anyone got a clue who he was? If this thread was on a Plymouth forum they would have Ward as manager, agreed to go there but got off of the train at Temple Meads. Lucky barst*rds!
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Post by kwoodgas on Sept 9, 2015 22:20:38 GMT
Iain Turner who played in goal when we got badly beaten by the s***heads testemonial and then never appeared again can go in goal. We had a young lad play in goal, probably around 2000~2002, no idea what his name was, but only saw him once. With the ball in his hands he couldn't kick it as far as the halfway line, he tried a couple of goalkicks, they got maybe 30 yards, so a defender took over taking goalkicks. Did I just imagine all of this or has anyone got a clue who he was? If this thread was on a Plymouth forum they would have Ward as manager, agreed to go there but got off of the train at Temple Meads. Lucky barst*rds! Rhys Evans who returned about 12 years later for a second spell? Can't remember that exact incident but was around that time and his kicking was pretty shocking.
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