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Post by faggotygas on Sept 9, 2015 8:05:15 GMT
on the same lines of discipline, but this time the double yellow given to the Northern Ireland player in the Euro qualifiers last night, surely he has to [the ref] produce a card at each incedent and not as a result of the player committing a second yellow offence Players are cautioned at the next stop in play. Advantage was played between the 2 incidents.
You do the crime, you do the time.
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faggotygas
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 9, 2015 8:06:50 GMT
However the recipient perceives it. But let's move on, more to life than that. I can't really be held responsible for that  You called him silly, you big bully |
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 9, 2015 8:13:52 GMT
Trouble is that the prize prat of a ref goes on with no apparent admonishment and will likely be just as s***e this weekend. When will justice be done and seen to be done with these people? Don't be so silly. He had a bad game, that's all. He's not a criminal. I think he made a mistake with the red card, realised it and panicked. Most of his bad decisions afterwards were because he failed to see late tackles, and failed to make decisions. The first was because when you panic, you get tunnel vision and over focus on the ball, the second was simply freezing. When you referee, you have to have a wide field of vision to see all the late or early stuff, and you have to be relaxed for that to happen.
He did well to calm himself down at half time, and I thought he had a pretty decent second half.
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Post by fanatical on Sept 9, 2015 8:18:49 GMT
The referee should be rescinded. Unfortunately if there is only one point between promotion or not (as per last season) then his mistake will have a costly effect for which he pays nothing. |
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Post by Igitur on Sept 9, 2015 8:20:12 GMT
So the ref saw something that didnt happen, as did the wa**er poxford players who were immediately gobbing off The ref, in his opinion, saw an offence in a one-off view from the position he was in. The panel watches it over and over from different camera shots over a cup of coffee, so can overrule the ref if need be. It's similar to Bodin's nailed on pen, from the position the ref was in he may have seen it differently. The Oxford's player were "gobbing off" as they were trying to influence the ref. PS The ref was a disgrace overall. |
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Post by crater on Sept 9, 2015 10:23:52 GMT
So the ref saw something that didnt happen, as did the wa**er poxford players who were immediately gobbing off The ref, in his opinion, saw an offence in a one-off view from the position he was in. The panel watches it over and over from different camera shots over a cup of coffee, so can overrule the ref if need be. It's similar to Bodin's nailed on pen, from the position the ref was in he may have seen it differently. The Oxford's player were "gobbing off" as they were trying to influence the ref. PS The ref was a disgrace overall. No sh1t thanks for clearing that up for me! |
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Post by simonj on Sept 9, 2015 11:54:17 GMT
Don't be so silly. He had a bad game, that's all. He's not a criminal. I think he made a mistake with the red card, realised it and panicked. Most of his bad decisions afterwards were because he failed to see late tackles, and failed to make decisions. The first was because when you panic, you get tunnel vision and over focus on the ball, the second was simply freezing. When you referee, you have to have a wide field of vision to see all the late or early stuff, and you have to be relaxed for that to happen.
He did well to calm himself down at half time, and I thought he had a pretty decent second half.
Well apart from stonewall penalty in the second half, where he says he got the ball. He clearly thought he saw that, but doesn't deflect from an appalling game changing decision, which by the way he made in both halves, against the same side. Only human, but should get a 3 game ban. |
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 9, 2015 11:59:19 GMT
I think he made a mistake with the red card, realised it and panicked. Most of his bad decisions afterwards were because he failed to see late tackles, and failed to make decisions. The first was because when you panic, you get tunnel vision and over focus on the ball, the second was simply freezing. When you referee, you have to have a wide field of vision to see all the late or early stuff, and you have to be relaxed for that to happen.
He did well to calm himself down at half time, and I thought he had a pretty decent second half.
Well apart from stonewall penalty in the second half, where he says he got the ball. He clearly thought he saw that, but doesn't deflect from an appalling game changing decision, which by the way he made in both halves, against the same side. Only human, but should get a 3 game ban. Quite right, a fair second half apart from the penalty! |
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Post by DudeLebowski on Sept 9, 2015 12:15:17 GMT
Also handing their forward only a yellow for doing exactly the same thing to Tom Parkes on the edge of our box, as Ollie Clarke was supposed to have done to their guy in the middle of the park.
Inconsistency was the order of the day.
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Post by baffgas on Sept 9, 2015 12:22:39 GMT
I thought the ref was very poor. Oxford kicked the ball away on a few occasions at the start, fair enough they were trying to slow the game down. He played right into their hands though and lost authority by not booking anyone. Sadly for us he decided to stamp his authority on the game with a cr@p decision.
Game ruined at 15 mins.
Do referees get assessed every game? I would love to see the report on this ref.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 12:24:01 GMT
Well apart from stonewall penalty in the second half, where he says he got the ball. He clearly thought he saw that, but doesn't deflect from an appalling game changing decision, which by the way he made in both halves, against the same side. Only human, but should get a 3 game ban. Quite right, a fair second half apart from the penalty! I thought he was as bad all through the 2nd half, the only difference being that he looked determined to send an Oxford player off. I agree with Simon, hope he is given at least the same 3 game ban that he tried to impose on Ollie, and those 3 weeks are used to explain to him that the event isn't being staged so that he can be the centre of attention and to try to train him so that he doesn't ruin any more matches. |
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Post by sheffieldgas on Sept 9, 2015 12:58:13 GMT
Quite right, a fair second half apart from the penalty! I thought he was as bad all through the 2nd half, the only difference being that he looked determined to send an Oxford player off. I agree with Simon, hope he is given at least the same 3 game ban that he tried to impose on Ollie, and those 3 weeks are used to explain to him that the event isn't being staged so that he can be the centre of attention and to try to train him so that he doesn't ruin any more matches. Watching on TV the ref looked like he knew he had made a mistake sending Ollie off and as a result we started to get the rub of the green with some of his decisions. I also had a feeling Oxford would finish with ten men as he tried to rectify his error; like Bamber says, he did seem determined to send a U's player off in the second half. As folks have pointed out he is only human, however, two very poor decisions cost us potentially (at least) a point, which is unacceptable. Officials make mistakes but when those errors are costing sides games then retraining at the very least seems appropriate. Let's hope these things do balance themselves out and come the end of the season this result won't matter! |
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Post by GasMacc1 on Sept 9, 2015 13:32:17 GMT
He's not a stranger to controversy, over and above the usual level for a referee. Birmingham Problem with Linington in 2014"Birmingham City have ironed out their problems with referee James Linington after claims he mocked captain Paul Robinson during the 3:3 draw with Burnley on [12th March 2014]. The club have not made a formal complaint about the Isle of Wight official. But they have spoken with his bosses and they in turn have held discussions with him. [Blues' manager] Lee Clark was furious that Linington allegedly mocked Robinson when booking him by pointing out the scoreline. Burnley had just gone 2-1 up from a free-kick, awarded against Robinson, who felt he was fouled. Robinson complained about the decision before and after the goal and was yellow carded for his protest. It was then Linington apparently made his quip and Robinson had to be held back by [former Bristol Rovers centre-half] Will Packwood as his fury increased. “I spoke to the referees’ boss who, in turn, spoke to the referee,” said Clark. “We spoke with the assessor also. “We found out what route we had to take and we did that. We filed our (usual post-match referee) report and we have had conversations with all parties. “We are happy with how things have panned out. “We believe we have dealt with it, flagged it up, had a good dialogue between ourselves and the PGMO (Professional Game Match Officials Board).” It is understood Linington explained his alleged comment was taken in the wrong way and not meant as a taunt. No action is likely to be taken against him. |
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 9, 2015 14:11:20 GMT
Quite right, a fair second half apart from the penalty! I thought he was as bad all through the 2nd half, the only difference being that he looked determined to send an Oxford player off. I agree with Simon, hope he is given at least the same 3 game ban that he tried to impose on Ollie, and those 3 weeks are used to explain to him that the event isn't being staged so that he can be the centre of attention and to try to train him so that he doesn't ruin any more matches. I thought that Oxford were determined enough on their own to get a player sent off. From what I recall, both of the player's offences were bookable. |
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Post by sheffieldgas on Sept 9, 2015 14:22:39 GMT
I thought he was as bad all through the 2nd half, the only difference being that he looked determined to send an Oxford player off. I agree with Simon, hope he is given at least the same 3 game ban that he tried to impose on Ollie, and those 3 weeks are used to explain to him that the event isn't being staged so that he can be the centre of attention and to try to train him so that he doesn't ruin any more matches. I thought that Oxford were determined enough on their own to get a player sent off. From what I recall, both of the player's offences were bookable. Oh yes, Oxford certainly made it easier for the ref to level things up. But that was another annoyance, Oxford were justly reduced to ten men. |
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Post by irishrover on Sept 9, 2015 14:43:52 GMT
on the same lines of discipline, but this time the double yellow given to the Northern Ireland player in the Euro qualifiers last night, surely he has to [the ref] produce a card at each incedent and not as a result of the player committing a second yellow offence I thought that was a really good piece of refereeing actually. 2 bookable offenses committed in the same passage of play but advantage was played for the 1st one. It would have been easy to have taken the easy option and just booked the guy for the one that stopped the game - but if they're both bookings (which they undauntedly were) then why should the player be allowed to get away with it just because the ref happened to play advantage? For the quick on the draw issue - I do think that's a problem. I think referees should always be instructed to think for 30-45 seconds before handing out a straight red because it has such an impact on the game. What I see too often is an incident occur that has the potential of bubbling over and the ref whips out the red card like a shield as if that will stop the ensuing melee. I think that is quite poor refereeing. Once the game is stopped I think it's perfectly reasonable to take 30 seconds and perhaps consult other officials before making such a big call - I think you owe that not only to the players but also the paying spectators as a red card often destroys a match as a spectacle. If I was a neutral and I knew beforehand a guy was going to red carded after 15 minutes I wouldn't be prepared to handover my money. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 14:49:19 GMT
If I knew the opposition were going to have a player sent off after 15 minutes, I'd pay double!
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Post by Rex on Sept 9, 2015 15:18:49 GMT
I think the ref made some mistakes, as did the players. During the course of a season refs and players will have some particularly good and bad games, that's football I'm afraid.
If players stopped cheating, trying to con refs and even ended the bizzare practice of believing that they are 'entitled' to go down after a challenge, then referees would have a much clearer idea of when a 'real' foul was committed.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Sept 9, 2015 15:20:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 15:29:01 GMT
I thought that Oxford were determined enough on their own to get a player sent off. From what I recall, both of the player's offences were bookable. Oh yes, Oxford certainly made it easier for the ref to level things up. But that was another annoyance, Oxford were justly reduced to ten men. Well, the lino in front of the east terrace could and should have spotted Taylor knocking the ball past a defender, then hooking his leg around the defender's when he could have avoided contact. The ''simulation'' was all but confirmed by Taylor celebrating when he realised that he had got the lad sent off. Some people seem to enjoy the random nature of incompetent officials and players cheating, I would rather see a game of football where the best players win. |
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