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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 11:16:09 GMT
Good effort this morning, 430 is a great recovery from 43/3.
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Post by irishrover on Jul 9, 2015 11:32:54 GMT
Good effort this morning, 430 is a great recovery from 43/3. Yes - that's a good score by anyone's reckoning. Ali played brilliantly this morning. Shows the value of having a proper batsman coming in that low in the order - their tail looks a lot longer than ours does. |
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Post by jackthegas on Jul 9, 2015 14:16:01 GMT
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Post by jackthegas on Jul 9, 2015 15:11:56 GMT
Think England bowled really well in that middle session. They took the edge a number of times and bowled a fuller length than they have for a while. Moeen did well too and he was definitely helped by Cook who gave him protection when the Aussies went after him. If he can stop them scoring he will take wickets as he gets spin and drift.
Quick word on Cardiff...in no way is it a test venue. The pitch is always turgid and the boundaries are way too small, neither of which promotes good cricket. England have genuinely hit the edge a number of times and the ball has dropped way short of a slip cordon who are really close in.
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Post by irishrover on Jul 9, 2015 17:25:15 GMT
Think England bowled really well in that middle session. They took the edge a number of times and bowled a fuller length than they have for a while. Moeen did well too and he was definitely helped by Cook who gave him protection when the Aussies went after him. If he can stop them scoring he will take wickets as he gets spin and drift. Quick word on Cardiff...in no way is it a test venue. The pitch is always turgid and the boundaries are way too small, neither of which promotes good cricket. England have genuinely hit the edge a number of times and the ball has dropped way short of a slip cordon who are really close in. Correct - although I know so many people from Wales and from the Westcountry who now go to Tests when they didn't used to I'm not going to object to having a Test Venue in 'our' part of the world. Rubbish cricket pitch though and always has been by virtue of being so low next to the River and being basically built on bogland. There was a huge fuss when Glamorgan moved their permanently when everyone knew that St Helens was a far better cricket ground. Absolutely suits us though. I always thought that if it came down to a war of attrition between the bowling attack I liked our chances. Our bowlers are good at being disciplined, the Aussies not so much. This feels like a Flower era performance - post a score and then slowly wear the opposition down by consistent bowling and giving little away thereby inducing mistakes. That Voges wicket definitely swings the day our way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 20:02:02 GMT
I'm reserving judgement for now. A good morning could put us firmly in charge. A poor one could surrender our advantage. We'll see.
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Post by irishrover on Jul 9, 2015 20:19:10 GMT
I'm reserving judgement for now. A good morning could put us firmly in charge. A poor one could surrender our advantage. We'll see. I think we've probably been comfortably ahead on points since the middle of Day 1 but are nowhere near close to landing a knock out blow. Typical Ashes cricket of recent years in some ways- just when you think one team is maneuvering themselves into a dominant position something happens to just move the pendulum slightly back the other way. Buttler's dismissal last night, Rogers innings, that key partnership under pressure between Voges and Watson. All these things kept Australia in the hunt and within 1 good session of turning the game back in their favour. If Haddin and Watson counter attack well tomorrow it's not completely outrageous to think Aus could get a small lead and then the pressure would be right back on England. At this stage England will be dissapointed if they don't get 50-100 run 1st innings lead I think. None of the Aussies are rabbits but it's a pretty long tail really. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 11:14:49 GMT
Well that was pretty much perfect! 44/5 this morning I think.
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Post by jackthegas on Jul 10, 2015 11:18:37 GMT
First two and a bit days have been almost perfect. We bowled better than we have for ages. Really disciplined and we bowled fuller. We even held our catches and saw off the tail.
We've been rubbish for ages though and so I still have this nagging voice in my head saying 30-4 at lunch!
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Post by irishrover on Jul 10, 2015 11:20:09 GMT
Well that was pretty much perfect! 44/5 this morning I think. That's a superb morning - good to see England doing damage with the 2nd new ball which Australia didn't. That's currently the difference between the sides. Now 2/3 half decent batting sessions and we should be in an impregnable position. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 15:21:42 GMT
Well played Ian Bell, a decent counter attacking 60 should silence some doubters.
Let's keep the pressure on, score at 4 an over and we should be nearly unassailable by close.
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Post by irishrover on Jul 10, 2015 17:14:30 GMT
Bit loose from England there though. That was some poor batting. A bit of complacent and suddenly a 450 lead looks a fair way off.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 17:31:12 GMT
Yeah a bit ragged at the end. Still, I'd have bitten your hand off if you had offered Australia 412 to win at the start of the match.
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 10, 2015 17:32:18 GMT
the only thing Aussie need is a bit of momentum and they will snap it up and take advantage of it , lets hope this very sloppy session ain't that
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Post by irishrover on Jul 10, 2015 17:39:43 GMT
It's also a bit of a shame that we couldn't take into tomorrow morning. The Aussie openers will like having an evening to prepare instead of having to come out and field not knowing exactly when they're going to be needed. Nothing wrong with having openers out there in the field contemplating the day for 15-20 minutes, especially in a 2nd innings situation.
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 11, 2015 16:04:15 GMT
if i hear "it's that yorkshire combination again" from MV i will start to get rather pi88ed off
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 11, 2015 16:10:33 GMT
Going with 4-0 to Australia with an inevitable washout at some point to restore a bit of "pride". Can't seen anything else than a resounding victory for them, much as it pains me to admit it. Still the time zone difference means that I can watch most of the games in the evening when I get home from work. don't you just love it when you are wrong and can celebrate the fact too ... at least it takes out the "0" |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 16:41:57 GMT
England will continue to struggle in the 5 day game while Alistair Cook is captain, he must be instrumental in picking Ian Bell, who will struggle to get a 100 runs in the series, should he be picked for the whole series, which he shouldn't, this england side looks decidedly lightweight and if Cook struggles in the first couple we should drop him and bring in Morgan as captain he showed what a positive approach to cricket can bring to a side low on confidence, my prediction England to go 2-0 down after two, Cook and Bell dropped, players picked in form under Morgan and we only lose 2-1 Any updates for us?  |
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 12, 2015 10:55:28 GMT
England will continue to struggle in the 5 day game while Alistair Cook is captain, he must be instrumental in picking Ian Bell, who will struggle to get a 100 runs in the series, should he be picked for the whole series, which he shouldn't, this england side looks decidedly lightweight and if Cook struggles in the first couple we should drop him and bring in Morgan as captain he showed what a positive approach to cricket can bring to a side low on confidence, my prediction England to go 2-0 down after two, Cook and Bell dropped, players picked in form under Morgan and we only lose 2-1 Any updates for us?  |
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Post by Geelong Gas on Jul 12, 2015 23:08:49 GMT
Well maybe I was reading too much from the media hype here and how it was going to be a walkover. Still, I will reserve judgement until proven right/wrong!
Got to say that they are missing Ryan Harris, I don't think his bowling would have been as wayward as the others. And Warner and Smith can start to pile on the runs when things go their way as started to happen in the 2nd innings.
I watched a TV interview with Gideon Haig on Sunday and he made the point that Australia has not done well in 'non-Australian' conditions (think India 2013, England 2013 and Pakistan last year). More to the point they are going to have to get used to these sorts of pitches as opposition teams have worked this out. It's funny because sometimes I think the Aussies expect the Gabba or MCG pitch to be flown in especially for them.
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