irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Apr 8, 2015 14:02:21 GMT
So, to summarise your verbosity (verbiage?) Irish......the knockout European Cup produced more interesting football than the Champions League. That's why you/we find the early stages of the World Cup so tedious. That was mainly the latest contribution to a long running debate with Bamber. The away goals thing is simpler really. It's about incentives I think. Because goals are a rarity in football it's a very safety first game. Away goals tend to be defended on the basis that it encourages the away team to attack. I'm arguing that because of the way teams and managers tend to think it actually has a stronger influence on encouraging the home team to be more defensive. I generally don't like things that create false situations in Sport; it's like the fielding restrictions thing in cricket. In theory they were designed to encourage attacking cricket and they did to an extent but they also resulted in even more negative cricket for the rest of the time and efforts to further correct that have just made the contest more and more artificial and formulaic over time. I think you should back the football to be entertaining enough for the contest to emerge naturally.
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dido
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Post by dido on Apr 8, 2015 14:06:59 GMT
Surely any self-respecting sport shares the famous adage with cricket: "If you can't win, don't lose" <especially in the first leg away from home!>
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Bridgeman
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 8, 2015 17:37:40 GMT
Perhaps we should introduce American football regulations, no one draws, you either win or lose. Just imagine having a penalty shoot out at the end of every game if it was a draw
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Post by brisgas123 on Apr 8, 2015 17:41:19 GMT
Perhaps we should introduce American football regulations, no one draws, you either win or lose. Just imagine having a penalty shoot out at the end of every game if it was a draw Heart attack rates would go up by 99%
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 17:53:03 GMT
Perhaps we should introduce American football regulations, no one draws, you either win or lose. Just imagine having a penalty shoot out at the end of every game if it was a draw you can still draw if nobody scores in over time. It's pretty rare.
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Bridgeman
Alfie Biggs
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 8, 2015 17:54:33 GMT
Perhaps we should introduce American football regulations, no one draws, you either win or lose. Just imagine having a penalty shoot out at the end of every game if it was a draw Heart attack rates would go up by 99% Too right, I think mine has been about to conk out on a few occasions this season already without a penalty shoot out
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Bridgeman
Alfie Biggs
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 8, 2015 17:56:22 GMT
Perhaps we should introduce American football regulations, no one draws, you either win or lose. Just imagine having a penalty shoot out at the end of every game if it was a draw you can still draw if nobody scores in over time. It's pretty rare. Ah right, not an intense follower of the game so didn't realise that, many thank you's
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aghast
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Post by aghast on Apr 8, 2015 21:21:35 GMT
A philosophical debate about something everybody understands. Football laws, not rocket science, tend to be summed up in simple phases designed to avoid verbiage.
What's the point of it? We all know that away goals don't actually mean that every goal in the net means that two have actually been scored.
Call me a party pooper, you logical positivists, but what actually is the point of debating something that everybody understands anyway?
When I say "party", I wish it to be known that I am not actually at a party. No-one would ask me anyway.
When I say "pooper", I don't even want to go there.
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faggotygas
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Post by faggotygas on Apr 9, 2015 7:59:08 GMT
A philosophical debate about something everybody understands. Football laws, not rocket science, tend to be summed up in simple phases designed to avoid verbiage. What's the point of it? We all know that away goals don't actually mean that every goal in the net means that two have actually been scored. Call me a party pooper, you logical positivists, but what actually is the point of debating something that everybody understands anyway? When I say "party", I wish it to be known that I am not actually at a party. No-one would ask me anyway. When I say "pooper", I don't even want to go there. Its b0ll0cks. What's better:
'We are one point behind with worse goal difference'
'We are one point behind with worse goal difference, which is like two points if we get one point, but if we get more or less than one point then it's not like two points it's like one point'?
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