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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 20:04:22 GMT
Annual leave? Calling in sick? I'd kill my own granny to meet Taylor Swift and since you hold Shaneyboy in similar regard I thought you'd move heaven and earth to make it happen. Taylor swift? Who he? Taylor swift has one of those mouths you'd love to be noshed off by, pure filthy bitch! (So boner told me anyway)
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Post by kwoodgas on Apr 6, 2015 20:08:53 GMT
Annual leave? Calling in sick? I'd kill my own granny to meet Taylor Swift and since you hold Shaneyboy in similar regard I thought you'd move heaven and earth to make it happen. Taylor swift? Who he? Basically I want to meet her about as much as you do ZFC, my point is I'd go out of my way to do it whereas you couldn't even be arsed to take 1 days holiday from work. Youre a waster.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 20:12:04 GMT
Because "and" is supposed to link together or list 2 different things in one sentence. Says who? I'm with you Mr Latvian. It's often taught in schools that one should not start a sentence with a coordinating conjunction. It's slightly informal, but still perfectly acceptable. I think that the reason it's taught is to prevent sentence fragmentation. If admin don't give this thread the anchor, or at least pull all of the points scoring pedantry out and stick it into a new thread of its own I'll be amazed
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Post by tbonegas on Apr 6, 2015 20:18:00 GMT
Basically I want to meet her about as much as you do ZFC, my point is I'd go out of my way to do it whereas you couldn't even be arsed to take 1 days holiday from work. Youre a waster. Waste a nights holiday on that glory hunting know all? My vacation allowance is precious to me.
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Post by kwoodgas on Apr 6, 2015 20:31:56 GMT
Basically I want to meet her about as much as you do ZFC, my point is I'd go out of my way to do it whereas you couldn't even be arsed to take 1 days holiday from work. Youre a waster. Waste a nights holiday on that glory hunting know all? My vacation allowance is precious to me. Well you wasted most of your life following him round the old forum...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 20:42:17 GMT
I'm not sure how to answer that. It's just what the word means. And yet it's perfectly reasonable and correct to start a sentence with it. Teachers tell kids not to do it because they want them to answer questions properly. It doesn't make it wrong. It"s a conjunction. As such, like the man says, it's a joining word. You're not joining anything when you start a sentence with it. So it's either redundant, or you're not explaining yourself very well. Either way, it's indicative that the sentence isn't in best shape. That's why it's discouraged. In your example above, it's redundant: 'Yet it's perfectly....' would work fine, without the 'And' stuck on the front creating white noise. 'But' and 'Because' are the same. 'Wrong' is a strong word for it, though; 'shoddy', maybe, but then this is a forum, not a thesis. Hell, many sentences on here don't even have a verb!
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Post by tbonegas on Apr 6, 2015 20:45:17 GMT
Waste a nights holiday on that glory hunting know all? My vacation allowance is precious to me. Well you wasted most of your life following him round the old forum... Is that what you think?
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 6, 2015 21:03:36 GMT
Can those preening themselves exchange e-mail addresses and carry on in your own time please, thank you My apologies to those who consider my sentence should be constructed better but it's the best my Education afforded me....lol !
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 6, 2015 21:05:26 GMT
The waster comes on and scores what should be his 40th goal of the season. Whoopy bloody doo. Is that the more sardonic relative of Scooby Doo??!!
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Apr 6, 2015 21:08:32 GMT
Can those preening themselves exchange e-mail addresses and carry on in your own time please, thank you My apologies to those who consider my sentence should be constructed better but it's the best my Education afforded me....lol ! Christ you are using LOL in a sentence .... you cretin
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Post by mjhgas on Apr 6, 2015 21:10:14 GMT
Whilst he's not my favourite player, I'm grateful to him and all the squad for doing their best to get us promoted.
Whatever happens in the next few weeks, there is at least a bit of pride back in the club and most of us are enjoying watching football again!
That'll do for me!
COYB!
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 6, 2015 21:16:35 GMT
Can those preening themselves exchange e-mail addresses and carry on in your own time please, thank you My apologies to those who consider my sentence should be constructed better but it's the best my Education afforded me....lol ! Christ you are using LOL in a sentence .... you cretin You bully, oops, now you've got me at it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 21:21:30 GMT
And yet it's perfectly reasonable and correct to start a sentence with it. Teachers tell kids not to do it because they want them to answer questions properly. It doesn't make it wrong. It"s a conjunction. As such, like the man says, it's a joining word. You're not joining anything when you start a sentence with it. So it's either redundant, or you're not explaining yourself very well. Either way, it's indicative that the sentence isn't in best shape. That's why it's discouraged. In your example above, it's redundant: 'Yet it's perfectly....' would work fine, without the 'And' stuck on the front creating white noise. 'But' and 'Because' are the same. 'Wrong' is a strong word for it, though; 'shoddy', maybe, but then this is a forum, not a thesis. Hell, many sentences on here don't even have a verb! If it's your intention to demonstrate that you should not use one of the seven coordinating conjunctions to start a sentence, your example 'Yet it's perfectly...., is flawed. Yet is one of the seven. Edit. Now looking forward to every error on future posts highlighted in red and being instructed to write each one, correctly, 100 times.
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 6, 2015 21:37:07 GMT
It"s a conjunction. As such, like the man says, it's a joining word. You're not joining anything when you start a sentence with it. So it's either redundant, or you're not explaining yourself very well. Either way, it's indicative that the sentence isn't in best shape. That's why it's discouraged. In your example above, it's redundant: 'Yet it's perfectly....' would work fine, without the 'And' stuck on the front creating white noise. 'But' and 'Because' are the same. 'Wrong' is a strong word for it, though; 'shoddy', maybe, but then this is a forum, not a thesis. Hell, many sentences on here don't even have a verb! If it's your intention to demonstrate that you should not use one of the seven coordinating conjunctions to start a sentence, your example 'Yet it's perfectly...., is flawed. Yet is one of the seven. Edit. Now looking forward to every error on future posts highlighted in red and being instructed to write each one, correctly, 100 times.
It's going to be very long evenings for me then in future
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 21:44:00 GMT
It"s a conjunction. As such, like the man says, it's a joining word. You're not joining anything when you start a sentence with it. So it's either redundant, or you're not explaining yourself very well. Either way, it's indicative that the sentence isn't in best shape. That's why it's discouraged. In your example above, it's redundant: 'Yet it's perfectly....' would work fine, without the 'And' stuck on the front creating white noise. 'But' and 'Because' are the same. 'Wrong' is a strong word for it, though; 'shoddy', maybe, but then this is a forum, not a thesis. Hell, many sentences on here don't even have a verb! If it's your intention to demonstrate that you should not use one of the seven coordinating conjunctions to start a sentence, your example 'Yet it's perfectly...., is flawed. Yet is one of the seven. I thought of that but it's also an adverb as a synonym of 'nevertheless', so I let it through. You're right, though, we could probably lose it. Actually, my intention was more to explain why it's discouraged, as asked; it's not so much banned as a prompt to check whether the sentence could be improved. In formal writing, you should maybe review it, but might chose to keep it; on a forum I wouldn't normally worry about it (cf: 'walking away' or the precise wording of a £30 million contract). it also seemed a good way of re-hijacking a thread away from its hijackers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 21:49:51 GMT
If it's your intention to demonstrate that you should not use one of the seven coordinating conjunctions to start a sentence, your example 'Yet it's perfectly...., is flawed. Yet is one of the seven. Edit. Now looking forward to every error on future posts highlighted in red and being instructed to write each one, correctly, 100 times.
It's going to very long evenings for me then in future
The man asked why starting a sentence with 'and' was considered wrong. He was obviously interested. I thought I gave the answer. You make lovely posts, btw.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 22:01:43 GMT
If it's your intention to demonstrate that you should not use one of the seven coordinating conjunctions to start a sentence, your example 'Yet it's perfectly...., is flawed. Yet is one of the seven. I thought of that but it's also an adverb as a synonym of 'nevertheless', so I let it through. You're right, though, we could probably lose it. Actually, my intention was more to explain why it's discouraged, as asked; it's not so much banned as a prompt to check whether the sentence could be improved. In formal writing, you should maybe review it, but might chose to keep it; on a forum I wouldn't normally worry about it (cf: 'walking away' or the precise wording of a £30 million contract). it also seemed a good way of re-hijacking a thread away from its hijackers. The reason it's discouraged is to help pupils learn sentence construction. Too many coordinating conjunctions lead to fragmentation. This is in no way a criticism, but it really ought to be 'untaught' later. I think that the problem is maybe that in today's target-driven education system there are other things that are a better use of the limited time available to both the pupil and teacher? But as you say, it's not hugely important, there, their and they're on the other hand! Edit. Maybe we could just settle this by sending pics of our todgers to each other, biggest (or least shrivelled) one wins?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 23:11:33 GMT
I thought of that but it's also an adverb as a synonym of 'nevertheless', so I let it through. You're right, though, we could probably lose it. Actually, my intention was more to explain why it's discouraged, as asked; it's not so much banned as a prompt to check whether the sentence could be improved. In formal writing, you should maybe review it, but might chose to keep it; on a forum I wouldn't normally worry about it (cf: 'walking away' or the precise wording of a £30 million contract). it also seemed a good way of re-hijacking a thread away from its hijackers. The reason it's discouraged is to help pupils learn sentence construction. Too many coordinating conjunctions lead to fragmentation. This is in no way a criticism, but it really ought to be 'untaught' later. I think that the problem is maybe that in today's target-driven education system there are other things that are a better use of the limited time available to both the pupil and teacher? But as you say, it's not hugely important, there, their and they're on the other hand! Edit. Maybe we could just settle this by sending pics of our todgers to each other, biggest (or least shrivelled) one wins? I think we pretty much agree, actually. The man asked why it was thought to be an issue. We especially align with the thought that the 'they're there their' thing actually does matter - and I raise you 'should of'. (I know '-' is 'weak', but we're bonding, so let's hang loose). Talking of hanging loose, is the offer of a todger-off still on? It sounds fun, but I'm conscious that I'm a fictional beef cake and you're a retired quiz host, so it might be a bit of a home banker for me, and a walkover wouldn't be a good thing for the psyche of either of us. Still, we seem to have successfully changed the subject from those people talking name-calling nonsense to each other.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 0:01:58 GMT
The reason it's discouraged is to help pupils learn sentence construction. Too many coordinating conjunctions lead to fragmentation. This is in no way a criticism, but it really ought to be 'untaught' later. I think that the problem is maybe that in today's target-driven education system there are other things that are a better use of the limited time available to both the pupil and teacher? But as you say, it's not hugely important, there, their and they're on the other hand! Edit. Maybe we could just settle this by sending pics of our todgers to each other, biggest (or least shrivelled) one wins? I think we pretty much agree, actually. The man asked why it was thought to be an issue. We especially align with the thought that the 'they're there their' thing actually does matter - and I raise you 'should of'. (I know '-' is 'weak', but we're bonding, so let's hang loose). Talking of hanging loose, is the offer of a todger-off still on? It sounds fun, but I'm conscious that I'm a fictional beef cake and you're a retired quiz host, so it might be a bit of a home banker for me, and a walkover wouldn't be a good thing for the psyche of either of us. Still, we seem to have successfully changed the subject from those people talking name-calling nonsense to each other. Your confidence may be misplaced. I was actually accused of being a 'massive p*ick' on this very forum just a few days ago. As for you being fictional, well, that's depends on reality, and in my world view, as you appear to be self-aware, it logically becomes unlikely that you are in fact fictional, furthermore, the fact that you appear to be aware of at least one version of reality demonstrates, that for you, you exist within that reality. Or have I just constructed a logical fallacy? Or could it be that that's just my perception of reality and in fact, à la Matrix, neither of us exist? In which case, all of those pretentious students from upper-class backgrounds answering questions that I didn't even understand, and thinking it oh-so clever to turn up on my programme with tank-tops, bad haircuts and stuffed toys as mascotts, maybe don't exist either? For me, that would come as something of a relief. Do you think that we have bored the original protagonists into submission yet?
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Post by Rex on Apr 7, 2015 5:53:37 GMT
The reason it's discouraged is to help pupils learn sentence construction. Too many coordinating conjunctions lead to fragmentation. This is in no way a criticism, but it really ought to be 'untaught' later. I think that the problem is maybe that in today's target-driven education system there are other things that are a better use of the limited time available to both the pupil and teacher? But as you say, it's not hugely important, there, their and they're on the other hand! Edit. Maybe we could just settle this by sending pics of our todgers to each other, biggest (or least shrivelled) one wins? I think we pretty much agree, actually. The man asked why it was thought to be an issue. We especially align with the thought that the 'they're there their' thing actually does matter - and I raise you 'should of'. (I know '-' is 'weak', but we're bonding, so let's hang loose).
Talking of hanging loose, is the offer of a todger-off still on? It sounds fun, but I'm conscious that I'm a fictional beef cake and you're a retired quiz host, so it might be a bit of a home banker for me, and a walkover wouldn't be a good thing for the psyche of either of us. Still, we seem to have successfully changed the subject from those people talking name-calling nonsense to each other.
Can we add loose & lose to that list please?
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