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Post by harrybuckle on Mar 23, 2015 11:11:24 GMT
Not content with about ten pages of JPT coverage we see in the paper a shameful full page advert in todays Bristol Post.
Asking fans to buy season tickets for the football and rugby at BS3 offering them FREE shirts if they pay monthly !
Why are they trying to wind up the blue side of the City ? Disgraceful in my opinion
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 11:24:12 GMT
Just ignore them, they love the attention
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Post by richardhannay on Mar 23, 2015 11:24:14 GMT
Good business practice, we should have done something similar in 2007,but blew it. Indicative of how our club was run then, and continues to be run today. Rod.
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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 23, 2015 11:29:59 GMT
I am sure we will get a conference Champions pull-out if we win the division
As for the ticket offer, what’s wrong with that. They are publicising a marketing offer like what we do :s
We should have tried and made more of the Rugby and Glos CC when we had the chance
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 11:32:38 GMT
Let's not turn this into otib and be obsessed with them.
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Post by LPGas on Mar 23, 2015 11:54:00 GMT
They need the money after all they owe Lansdowne £55 million
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Post by brizzle on Mar 23, 2015 12:15:22 GMT
Not content with about ten pages of JPT coverage we see in the paper a shameful full page advert in todays Bristol Post.
Asking fans to buy season tickets for the football and rugby at BS3 offering them FREE shirts if they pay monthly !
Why are they trying to wind up the blue side of the City ? Disgraceful in my opinion Try doing what I do then, don't buy The Post and then anything that they print won't trouble you. I cherry-pick my stories by reading the Post on-line, that's quite enough for me.
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Post by richmace on Mar 23, 2015 12:17:42 GMT
There is also a large billboard at the Mall advertising the same. Nothing wrong with this, and it is not a wind up.
This is how a properly run business operates, all they are doing is trying to increase their supporter base, ie their customers.
But yes, I wish BRFC were doing this.
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Post by irishrover on Mar 23, 2015 12:18:30 GMT
Our problem is us not the Evening Post or Bristol City.
We are 2 divisions below City and they are currently cruising into the Championship having won a trophy at Wembley while we are currently a non-league team. Sorry, we just have to take our medicine here. We haven't played City in the league for 14 years for crying out loud - we are not equal rivals anymore. It might hurt but it is the reality.
All City have done is take out an advert the day after they've had a big day out at Wembley advertising season tickets for next season and their relationship with the Rugby Club. That seems very sensible on their part and why on earth should the Evening Post turn down that money? If anything it highlights our failure to do similar after our 2007 success and also our failure to build a good relationship with the Rugby club over the 15 years we shared a stadium.
This has nothing to do with us. The problem is not that we are having our noses rubbed in it, that would be fine I would welcome an advert that had a picture of Wembley and 'are watching at the Mem....' - the problem is far worse than that, it is that we are a non-league side and pretty irrelevant. City have just won a competition we weren't even good enough to enter this year - think about that. I think we're quite lucky to retain the profile we do actually. Many clubs see their local press profile decimated after relegation to the Conference. If you want to be angry then be angry at how far we have declined not at City doing what you'd expect them to do and the Evening Post printing an advert for a local business and a glossy pull out of a big sporting day out which they've done for every club for as long as I can remember because they are in the business of selling Newspapers and it is an easy sell. Rovers are not owed respect by anyone - we have to earn it and over the last 5 years we have not come remotely close to doing so.
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Post by faggotygas on Mar 23, 2015 12:27:55 GMT
Not content with about ten pages of JPT coverage we see in the paper a shameful full page advert in todays Bristol Post.
Asking fans to buy season tickets for the football and rugby at BS3 offering them FREE shirts if they pay monthly !
Why are they trying to wind up the blue side of the City ? Disgraceful in my opinion This is sarcasm, surely?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 12:33:20 GMT
Guys, relax for goodness sake.
We have Barry in charge of retail etc, I'm sure he's got a massive campaigne organised and is ready to push the button any moment now.
Well, I say any moment now, of course he has to spend a few more months discussing getting 6 T-shirts into PL, but as soon as that's done, and he's had a well earned summer break, I'm sure he'll be straight on it.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 23, 2015 12:45:42 GMT
this just doesn't matter.
we are Rovers.
they are City.
I would never become a City fan, and presumably no City fan will turn over to us.
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Post by swissgas on Mar 23, 2015 13:17:39 GMT
Our problem is us not the Evening Post or Bristol City. We are 2 divisions below City and they are currently cruising into the Championship having won a trophy at Wembley while we are currently a non-league team. Sorry, we just have to take our medicine here. We haven't played City in the league for 14 years for crying out loud - we are not equal rivals anymore. It might hurt but it is the reality. All City have done is take out an advert the day after they've had a big day out at Wembley advertising season tickets for next season and their relationship with the Rugby Club. That seems very sensible on their part and why on earth should the Evening Post turn down that money? If anything it highlights our failure to do similar after our 2007 success and also our failure to build a good relationship with the Rugby club over the 15 years we shared a stadium. This has nothing to do with us. The problem is not that we are having our noses rubbed in it, that would be fine I would welcome an advert that had a picture of Wembley and 'are watching at the Mem....' - the problem is far worse than that, it is that we are a non-league side and pretty irrelevant. City have just won a competition we weren't even good enough to enter this year - think about that. I think we're quite lucky to retain the profile we do actually. Many clubs see their local press profile decimated after relegation to the Conference. If you want to be angry then be angry at how far we have declined not at City doing what you'd expect them to do and the Evening Post printing an advert for a local business and a glossy pull out of a big sporting day out which they've done for every club for as long as I can remember because they are in the business of selling Newspapers and it is an easy sell. Rovers are not owed respect by anyone - we have to earn it and over the last 5 years we have not come remotely close to doing so. I quite agree Irish the problem is certainly us, but why do we continue to take it lying down ? (not in the way you are thinking Faustus ) This is a challenge which someone like Doug Shields should relish. We need a PR strategy to give hope to our existing fan base and to persuade new fans to choose us instead of the alternatives. In the next three months we have to manage the way we present the outcome of our football season and the outcome of the Sainsburys case so that, whatever happens, we are ready with a positive vision for our people. Winners have their strategies in place and unveil the appropriate ones at the appropriate times to make sure the message they want to get across is heard loud and clear. Only losers "wait to see what happens". When the announcement about the new PR advisor was made it gave a faint glimmer of hope but increasingly it looks as though Doug is just another willing volunteer. When you think about it how can he possibly devote enough time to Rovers when he has just started a new business along with his partners at GingerComms in London. What would Harriet and James Scott think if he was neglecting their new venture to help out at Rovers ? But these are serious people and they have the qualities which could help inspire a serious fightback against Bristol City if we take the relationship with them seriously. If I was Nick Higgs I should take 30 000 out of the MSP Capital money to pay GingerComms to get us through the next three months and, whatever the outcome of the battles ahead, make sure we are smiling at the end of it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 14:06:51 GMT
Our problem is us not the Evening Post or Bristol City. We are 2 divisions below City and they are currently cruising into the Championship having won a trophy at Wembley while we are currently a non-league team. Sorry, we just have to take our medicine here. We haven't played City in the league for 14 years for crying out loud - we are not equal rivals anymore. It might hurt but it is the reality. All City have done is take out an advert the day after they've had a big day out at Wembley advertising season tickets for next season and their relationship with the Rugby Club. That seems very sensible on their part and why on earth should the Evening Post turn down that money? If anything it highlights our failure to do similar after our 2007 success and also our failure to build a good relationship with the Rugby club over the 15 years we shared a stadium. This has nothing to do with us. The problem is not that we are having our noses rubbed in it, that would be fine I would welcome an advert that had a picture of Wembley and 'are watching at the Mem....' - the problem is far worse than that, it is that we are a non-league side and pretty irrelevant. City have just won a competition we weren't even good enough to enter this year - think about that. I think we're quite lucky to retain the profile we do actually. Many clubs see their local press profile decimated after relegation to the Conference. If you want to be angry then be angry at how far we have declined not at City doing what you'd expect them to do and the Evening Post printing an advert for a local business and a glossy pull out of a big sporting day out which they've done for every club for as long as I can remember because they are in the business of selling Newspapers and it is an easy sell. Rovers are not owed respect by anyone - we have to earn it and over the last 5 years we have not come remotely close to doing so. I quite agree Irish the problem is certainly us, but why do we continue to take it lying down ? (not in the way you are thinking Faustus ) This is a challenge which someone like Doug Shields should relish. We need a PR strategy to give hope to our existing fan base and to persuade new fans to choose us instead of the alternatives. In the next three months we have to manage the way we present the outcome of our football season and the outcome of the Sainsburys case so that, whatever happens, we are ready with a positive vision for our people. Winners have their strategies in place and unveil the appropriate ones at the appropriate times to make sure the message they want to get across is heard loud and clear. Only losers "wait to see what happens". When the announcement about the new PR advisor was made it gave a faint glimmer of hope but increasingly it looks as though Doug is just another willing volunteer. When you think about it how can he possibly devote enough time to Rovers when he has just started a new business along with his partners at GingerComms in London. What would Harriet and James Scott think if he was neglecting their new venture to help out at Rovers ? But these are serious people and they have the qualities which could help inspire a serious fightback against Bristol City if we take the relationship with them seriously. If I was Nick Higgs I should take 30 000 out of the MSP Capital money to pay GingerComms to get us through the next three months and, whatever the outcome of the battles ahead, make sure we are smiling at the end of it. My thoughts for what they are worth. 1. Irish has it summed up pretty well. 2. How can we put a stratagy in place when we may not know what division we are in until the last 20 minutes of the season? Utterly pathetic, I have no idea what work Watola does, it must be good or he would have been shown the door for that. Yet even after that he was still used as the public face of the club. 3. Wasn't BSS going to be our PR saviour? He's still around, I saw him last Friday. This is typical Rovers, we know that this forum is monitored by the board sycophants ( HiYa ), so they know full well what's been said about marketing and PR for literally years, yet nothing changes. As you rightly say, PR for a club the size of Rovers is a full time job for an individual, or a small contract for a PR company. Likewise, dealing with retail and marketing (which obviously has a huge overlap into PR) is also a full time job in itself.
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Post by theeyeofaneedle on Mar 23, 2015 14:29:44 GMT
The Evil Post, a poor newspaper with journalists who are steadily getting worse. I never buy and read it, but, out of interest, I got the on-line site up this morning to look at the review for The Stereophonics gig on Saturday night. The reviewer got the gig spot on so at least someone is doing a good job down there. As for Rovers and PR, they completely missed the boat years ago. No one else to blame for our predicament than those that inhabit Box 1. Why the hell did'nt they react when the Sh*te were at a sh*te ebb, when we were in the ascendency and were in a position to reach out to new supporters. Why the hell did'nt they erect immovable bridges with their tenants, along the lines of the old 'Athletics' clubs, why the hell did'nt they build lines of communication with people of wealth and influence outside of their small cabale, why the hell did'nt they seek help from people within our ranks who would gladly have given to our cause??? I could go on. Is / was it all to do with money and making sure only the grubby fingered few could be involved? Will we ever know? Anyway, UTG, come on Darryll, finish the job off!!
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Post by DudeLebowski on Mar 23, 2015 15:40:08 GMT
The Brizzle post rag ignore us 90% of any season, we know this. Until we actually score a decent cup run or have any sniff of promotion they are all over us like a rash & are all of a sudden massively pro Rovers.
Let them & the shameless sheeds carry on. Those 'scored more than Rooney' billboards are an absolute classic!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 15:53:24 GMT
Our problem is us not the Evening Post or Bristol City. We are 2 divisions below City and they are currently cruising into the Championship having won a trophy at Wembley while we are currently a non-league team. Sorry, we just have to take our medicine here. We haven't played City in the league for 14 years for crying out loud - we are not equal rivals anymore. It might hurt but it is the reality. All City have done is take out an advert the day after they've had a big day out at Wembley advertising season tickets for next season and their relationship with the Rugby Club. That seems very sensible on their part and why on earth should the Evening Post turn down that money? If anything it highlights our failure to do similar after our 2007 success and also our failure to build a good relationship with the Rugby club over the 15 years we shared a stadium. This has nothing to do with us. The problem is not that we are having our noses rubbed in it, that would be fine I would welcome an advert that had a picture of Wembley and 'are watching at the Mem....' - the problem is far worse than that, it is that we are a non-league side and pretty irrelevant. City have just won a competition we weren't even good enough to enter this year - think about that. I think we're quite lucky to retain the profile we do actually. Many clubs see their local press profile decimated after relegation to the Conference. If you want to be angry then be angry at how far we have declined not at City doing what you'd expect them to do and the Evening Post printing an advert for a local business and a glossy pull out of a big sporting day out which they've done for every club for as long as I can remember because they are in the business of selling Newspapers and it is an easy sell. Rovers are not owed respect by anyone - we have to earn it and over the last 5 years we have not come remotely close to doing so. I quite agree Irish the problem is certainly us, but why do we continue to take it lying down ? (not in the way you are thinking Faustus ) This is a challenge which someone like Doug Shields should relish. We need a PR strategy to give hope to our existing fan base and to persuade new fans to choose us instead of the alternatives. In the next three months we have to manage the way we present the outcome of our football season and the outcome of the Sainsburys case so that, whatever happens, we are ready with a positive vision for our people. Winners have their strategies in place and unveil the appropriate ones at the appropriate times to make sure the message they want to get across is heard loud and clear. Only losers "wait to see what happens". When the announcement about the new PR advisor was made it gave a faint glimmer of hope but increasingly it looks as though Doug is just another willing volunteer. When you think about it how can he possibly devote enough time to Rovers when he has just started a new business along with his partners at GingerComms in London. What would Harriet and James Scott think if he was neglecting their new venture to help out at Rovers ? But these are serious people and they have the qualities which could help inspire a serious fightback against Bristol City if we take the relationship with them seriously. If I was Nick Higgs I should take 30 000 out of the MSP Capital money to pay GingerComms to get us through the next three months and, whatever the outcome of the battles ahead, make sure we are smiling at the end of it.How do you know he has not ? He may of taken £60,000 out for we know
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 15:53:55 GMT
You got the natives going there Harry, well done LOL.
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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 23, 2015 16:10:29 GMT
The Brizzle post rag ignore us 90% of any season, we know this. Until we actually score a decent cup run or have any sniff of promotion they are all over us like a rash & are all of a sudden massively pro Rovers. Let them & the shameless sheeds carry on. Those 'scored more than Rooney' billboards are an absolute classic! Apart from the weekly coverage they give us, or the coverage when we won the play-offs etc, etc
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 16:21:33 GMT
this just doesn't matter. we are Rovers. they are City. I would never become a City fan, and presumably no City fan will turn over to us. Of course it matters, whether either you or I, or Fred the Red would consider swapping clubs is totally irrelevant isn't it? Marketing of any organisation is so incredibly important, only last week I was laughing at the the other lot with huge bill boards in Gloucester with a picture of some of their players celebrating a goal and a caption of 'we have more points than Chelsea', drove on for another 200 meters and another Bristol Sport billboard was promoting Bristol RFC, in Gloucester! Cheeky beyond the extreme, but it gets people talking about the club. More often or not the more spice there is in a marketing campaign the more popular it becomes, IMO the vast majority of people in Gloucester couldn't care less about that lot nor the rugby lot either but you can bet it has got some tongues wagging and that is never a bad thing as the club is being talked about, for the cost of a bit of artwork and factual slogan about the points gained so far this season IMO its a clever bit of marketing. We need to wait for someone to take over at Rovers who understands what real marketing is about and its importance in todays world, ask Barry Bradshaw what marketing is and he more likely to respond with: there used to be one in the grounds of Southmead Hospital on a Saturday morning but the fruit market at St Phillips is still going.
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