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Post by eppinggas on Dec 18, 2014 15:57:57 GMT
Apologies if this has already been covered... I was thinking about the "review". Apparently a crack team of management consultants concluding after months of in depth investigation that our relegation was "all kind of John Ward's fault and we are actually a remarkably well run and well respected football club". So John Ward was hung out to dry. My understanding was that he was on a rolling yearly contract that didn't roll after our relegation. So given he was the scapegoat for all the ills of the football club - why hasn't he come out and given his side of the story? Did we put a gagging order on him? If so - how much did it cost? Can't believe that JW would be happy to carry the can for everything that has gone wrong over the last couple of years. Unless we paid him off - with money we don't have.
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Post by Bristol Rovers on Dec 18, 2014 16:06:31 GMT
Apologies if this has already been covered... I was thinking about the "review". Apparently a crack team of management consultants concluding after months of in depth investigation that our relegation was "all kind of John Ward's fault and we are actually a remarkably well run and well respected football club". So John Ward was hung out to dry. My understanding was that he was on a rolling yearly contract that didn't roll after our relegation. So given he was the scapegoat for all the ills of the football club - why hasn't he come out and given his side of the story? Did we put a gagging order on him? If so - how much did it cost? Can't believe that JW would be happy to carry the can for everything that has gone wrong over the last couple of years. Unless we paid him off - with money we don't have. No matter what people say, no one on here will know about any gagging order in place, the cost of it and if we have paid him off. |
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Post by nortongas1 on Dec 18, 2014 16:08:05 GMT
Or maybe he knows he was to blame that's why he has been so quiet since he got sacked!
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Dec 18, 2014 16:08:29 GMT
We have probably got a running tab with whoever deals with gagging orders.
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Post by Bristol Rovers on Dec 18, 2014 16:09:36 GMT
Or maybe he knows he was to blame that's why he has been so quiet since he got sacked! This. |
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Post by LJG on Dec 18, 2014 16:21:26 GMT
Jeezuz. Let it drop for chrissakes.
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 18, 2014 16:38:23 GMT
Drop what? I may have missed John Ward defending himself. I find it very odd he has not had the chance to give his side of the story. That's all. Like I said - apologies if this has already been covered.
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Post by me on Dec 18, 2014 16:41:09 GMT
Or maybe he's a gentleman. Some people can deal with abuse without having to respond to it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 16:42:25 GMT
Or maybe he knows he was to blame that's why he has been so quiet since he got sacked! Or maybe as a dignified gentleman who was sacked having gone through an awful time with his seriously ill wife he choose not to disclose to a group of deluded supporters who blame all 8 managers in 4 years it's always the managers fault when it all goes wrong. |
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Post by LJG on Dec 18, 2014 17:27:24 GMT
Drop what? I may have missed John Ward defending himself. I find it very odd he has not had the chance to give his side of the story. That's all. Like I said - apologies if this has already been covered. Drop the endless Rovers witch hunt. Ward, Buckle, Hughes, Lines, Campbell, Ollie, Harrison, Richards, McGhee, Penney, Phillips, Hoskins, O'Toole, this list is vast. Why are we always looking for someone to burn? The answer to your initial query is "It's completely irrelevant". You don't blame the plasterer when your house crumbles through it's foundations. |
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Post by harrybuckle on Dec 18, 2014 17:31:53 GMT
No doubt it will come out in the Geoff Dunford book in due course
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Dec 18, 2014 17:46:45 GMT
Jeezuz. Let it drop for chrissakes. Will you drop your dislike for DC? |
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Post by LJG on Dec 18, 2014 18:36:12 GMT
Jeezuz. Let it drop for chrissakes. Will you drop your dislike for DC? I can't drop something I don't have. I think I'm moderately even handed in terms of DC. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 18, 2014 22:13:46 GMT
No doubt it will come out in the Geoff Dunford book in due course Will the book actually be published now he's had his loan paid back by the club?? Perhaps GD learnt a trick or two from Stu Campbell! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 23:16:01 GMT
No doubt it will come out in the Geoff Dunford book in due course Indeed! Number 10 had a gold top, which is really unheard off as he normally has semi skimmed . I had to laugh though as number 9 wanted a white loaf and I gave him brown. I saw Paul ince once at the mem and he said hello. It was my idea to bring Lennie to the club! I not anyone else I was responsible for the promotion in 06 as it was me yes ME that appointed Ron Craig to be chairman. Oh and it was all yes all john wards fault. Available at all crap book stores! |
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 18, 2014 23:42:43 GMT
No doubt it will come out in the Geoff Dunford book in due course Will the book actually be published now he's had his loan paid back by the club?? Perhaps GD learnt a trick or two from Stu Campbell! he said proceeds will go to charity so I imagine he will/should still do it... |
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 19, 2014 13:00:50 GMT
Drop what? I may have missed John Ward defending himself. I find it very odd he has not had the chance to give his side of the story. That's all. Like I said - apologies if this has already been covered. Drop the endless Rovers witch hunt. Ward, Buckle, Hughes, Lines, Campbell, Ollie, Harrison, Richards, McGhee, Penney, Phillips, Hoskins, O'Toole, this list is vast. Why are we always looking for someone to burn? The answer to your initial query is "It's completely irrelevant". You don't blame the plasterer when your house crumbles through it's foundations. Witch hunt? I only asked of anyone has heard anything from John Ward post our relegation! For the record I think JW is an honourable man who did a great job in his first stint with us (and the first 6 months of his second stint). I don't think I have critisized any of the people you mention - check my posts on the old & new forum. I criticize and admit to being frustrated with our last two alleged "strikers" - Matty Harrold and Matty Taylor - maybe we should just stear clear of the Matty's. I guess all the names you mention are a direct result of the Board appointing the 'wrong' manager and giving him money to appoint the 'wrong' players on the 'wrong' contracts. So ultimately it is down to the Board. To extend your metaphor - I guess I am blaming the people who laid the crumbling foundations for the Clubs 'business model' 4-5 years ago. How ironic it would be if the Chairman of the Board was actually originally involved in the construction industry. |
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Post by brizzle on Dec 19, 2014 13:22:33 GMT
Will the book actually be published now he's had his loan paid back by the club?? Perhaps GD learnt a trick or two from Stu Campbell! so I imagine he will/should still do it... Well fingers crossed for the charity's sake, that there will be some proceeds from the book . . . assuming that the project proceeds of course. |
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Post by fanatical on Dec 19, 2014 14:04:36 GMT
Will the book actually be published now he's had his loan paid back by the club?? Perhaps GD learnt a trick or two from Stu Campbell! he said proceeds will go to charity so I imagine he will/should still do it... no better charity than Bristol Rovers - perhaps he will donate to the club? |
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Dec 19, 2014 14:16:36 GMT
Apologies if this has already been covered... I was thinking about the "review". Apparently a crack team of management consultants concluding after months of in depth investigation that our relegation was "all kind of John Ward's fault and we are actually a remarkably well run and well respected football club". So John Ward was hung out to dry. My understanding was that he was on a rolling yearly contract that didn't roll after our relegation. So given he was the scapegoat for all the ills of the football club - why hasn't he come out and given his side of the story? Did we put a gagging order on him? If so - how much did it cost? Can't believe that JW would be happy to carry the can for everything that has gone wrong over the last couple of years. Unless we paid him off - with money we don't have. Do catch up Ward was blamed in early verbal exchanges The official in depth internal review concluded the only reason for relegation was insufficient goals, and in further in depth strategic thinking, this was felt to be particularly pertinent when the other team scored the same or even more than us. We are lucky to have such a forward thinking and insightful management team on the non football side. After all, as Nick himself proudly said at the Supporters Club EGM (and I do quote) "Bristol Rovers wouldn't be where it is without us" You really couldnt make this stuff up |
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