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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 22:52:29 GMT
quite a few predicted relegation,,are they no longer on here ? or just pretending they never predicted such a thing?
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Oct 13, 2014 1:32:07 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 1:32:07 GMT
There seems to be a consensus of caution about the on - field progress we are making from posters who report on games and who us ex pats rely on. Steve K gave a very honest assessment of the midweek game and it sounds as if todays performance was another unconvincing one. I think that the reason for the "quiet" is that many people now see beyond the short term and realize that no foundations are being layed either with the team or with the club. We had a report of Nick Higgs appearing on TV saying there would be good news at the end of November but there was no reaction. No jubilation that he expected building work to start in the spring but equally no sarcasm or ridicule that we had heard it all before. Just an empty feeling of resignation that what will be will be and who really cares anyway. But, as IrishRover posted last week, many of us believe a club should be so much more than this. The apathy is there from top to bottom and I have a feeling that the reason crowds are holding up so well is not because Rovers fans see any break through with the football team or want to share the vision of a club moving forward it's because they like a good day out. Now I'm a traditionalist and over the years Rovers have given me many happy times and the post astafjevs made on the Aldershot pub thread certainly strikes a chord with me. I can just imagine his car load of Gasheads pulling up outside that pub and seeing it crammed full and someone saying "b*gger this lads I know a place down the road" and the rest of them thinking "oh christ what are we letting ourselves in for here" and then find themselves bluffing their way into some club or boozer and having a whale of a time. After the draw at Southend which clinched promotion in 1974 I managed to blag my way into a very sophisticated night club in the West End of London along with my mates from North Somerset and we certainly had a "wail of a time that night. But times change, people change, football changes and I think one of the reasons for the emptiness in people's feelings about Rovers is because the motivation for following the team is a "good day out" and keeping up a tradition rather than also feeling part of a good club as we did in 1974. We congratulate ourselves on having a huge number of fans following the team but what does the future hold if "the lads" are not passionate about the team or the club but purely want a good time with their mates ? If people are sceptical whether we are laying the foundations of a team and sceptical whether we are going to lay the foundations of the UWE what do they think about the foundations being layed today for a fan base who will be following Rovers in large number forty years from now ? My lads were actually in a crowd of 60 000 at the University of Kentucky "football" game today. If you click the link and look at the gallery of fans at that game you will see a huge diversity of people having a good time. I doubt many of them know all the players names or have a great understanding of the significance of the result but they are intent on enjoying themselves. I'm not saying we should copy the way sport is run in the USA but I am saying we might learn from it. We might need to accept that us "traditionalists" have had our day and while there is still a place for us the future lies in attracting a different kind of fan base. The fans of the future may be like us in that they want a good day out but, unlike some of us disenchanted old timers today, they don't feel the need to be part of a club. www.kentucky.com/2014/10/11/3475798/kentucky-fans-bring-it-for-ulm.htmlwhen we won promotion in 73-74 the clubs board invested nothing and we struggled for i think 5 years in div 2 [now comically called the championship]before relegation,we wernt a good club just a good team the directors then were bigger assholes then than what we have now,,,we now have a determined young manager[like megson was] and a great bunch of lads trying very hard to suceed at conference level and ive had some good days out this season
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Oct 13, 2014 6:42:27 GMT
Post by intheknow on Oct 13, 2014 6:42:27 GMT
Why do you always have to have a dig! Kevin will not be back as he no longer has an account.Well that is a shame. I did wonder why I hadn't seen any posts from him recently, but I assumed that he must be away on holiday. What with Bas departing and now this, it's like an excerpt from ''And Then There Were None,'' by Agatha Christie. What upset them that they both left ? Especially Bas , thought he'd be a forum lifer !
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Oct 13, 2014 8:13:24 GMT
Post by faggotygas on Oct 13, 2014 8:13:24 GMT
Well that is a shame. I did wonder why I hadn't seen any posts from him recently, but I assumed that he must be away on holiday. What with Bas departing and now this, it's like an excerpt from ''And Then There Were None,'' by Agatha Christie. What upset them that they both left ? Especially Bas , thought he'd be a forum lifer ! Bas still reads occasionally, I guess he must have found a bus driving forum or some such
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Oct 13, 2014 8:43:06 GMT
Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 13, 2014 8:43:06 GMT
What upset them that they both left ? Especially Bas , thought he'd be a forum lifer ! Bas still reads occasionally, I guess he must have found a bus driving forum or some such More likely a music forum as he is a keen musician.
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Oct 13, 2014 9:20:50 GMT
Post by dido on Oct 13, 2014 9:20:50 GMT
So....is Bas definitely driving buses, does anyone know?
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Post by faggotygas on Oct 13, 2014 10:23:15 GMT
So....is Bas definitely driving buses, does anyone know? He is, you can stalk him on the routes through Hanham and Kingswood. I suggest paying in 2 pence pieces.
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Oct 13, 2014 10:58:29 GMT
Post by dido on Oct 13, 2014 10:58:29 GMT
Thanks faggoty. I have got a hoard of 1p's.
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Oct 13, 2014 12:19:05 GMT
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Post by dagnogo on Oct 13, 2014 12:19:05 GMT
The team are doing reasonably well and there's nothing new to get excited about/moan about off the field.
That's just how life works. You're more likely to complain if the bus is late than you are to write a letter of thanks if it's on time and the driver wished you good day.
Good teams' forums must be dull...
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Oct 13, 2014 13:23:11 GMT
Post by swissgas on Oct 13, 2014 13:23:11 GMT
"1973" I can't find anything to dispute with your comment that you've had some good days out this season. But the rest sounds to me as though you've been taken in by the words of that song "the football league is upside down"
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Oct 13, 2014 13:24:54 GMT
Post by brizzle on Oct 13, 2014 13:24:54 GMT
quite a few predicted relegation,,are they no longer on here ? or just pretending they never predicted such a thing? I seem to remember that several posters on the old forum actively wished for our relegation, and this is something that I failed to understand at the time, or since. The argument that they put forward was that it would give us the opportunity to re-group and come back stronger. I always argued against this point of view, and ended with the expression . . . be careful what you wish for, as it may come true.I often wonder what they are thinking now?
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Oct 13, 2014 14:03:39 GMT
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Post by dagnogo on Oct 13, 2014 14:03:39 GMT
quite a few predicted relegation,,are they no longer on here ? or just pretending they never predicted such a thing? I seem to remember that several posters on the old forum actively wished for our relegation, and this is something that I failed to understand at the time, or since. The argument that they put forward was that it would give us the opportunity to re-group and come back stronger. I always argued against this point of view, and ended with the expression . . . be careful what you wish for, as it may come true.I often wonder what they are thinking now? I recall some saying things along those lines. I never agreed with it but if we went up straight away this year, and Higgs and co learned to run Rovers like a business as a result of the experience, we'd probably be a bit better off than if we kept flirting with the drop, sacking another manager, letting another new manager blow a budget, sacking him, and repeating that process.
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Oct 13, 2014 16:15:48 GMT
Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 13, 2014 16:15:48 GMT
quite a few predicted relegation,,are they no longer on here ? or just pretending they never predicted such a thing? I seem to remember that several posters on the old forum actively wished for our relegation, and this is something that I failed to understand at the time, or since. The argument that they put forward was that it would give us the opportunity to re-group and come back stronger. I always argued against this point of view, and ended with the expression . . . be careful what you wish for, as it may come true.I often wonder what they are thinking now? I wasn't one that wanted relegation and I wouldn't want to put words in peoples' mouths but I should imagine they would say that we are doing well on the field and are getting away from that losing mentality and have got rid of the journeymen who couldn't give a toss about BRFC. Also we have people who want to play for the club. Off the field I am sure they would say that nothing has changed. The only change on the BoD is that GoD has stood down, the review (if there was one) showed that no one was to blame - we just needed a seasoned striker who scores regularly (which we still haven't got) and some poor buggers amongst the stadium staff have had their marching orders. The stadium has been promised to start in September, October, November, sorry January and all is well with the world.....
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Oct 13, 2014 16:27:21 GMT
Post by brizzle on Oct 13, 2014 16:27:21 GMT
I seem to remember that several posters on the old forum actively wished for our relegation, and this is something that I failed to understand at the time, or since. The argument that they put forward was that it would give us the opportunity to re-group and come back stronger. I always argued against this point of view, and ended with the expression . . . be careful what you wish for, as it may come true.I often wonder what they are thinking now? I wasn't one that wanted relegation and I wouldn't want to put words in peoples' mouths but I should imagine they would say that we are doing well on the field and are getting away from that losing mentality and have got rid of the journeymen who couldn't give a toss about BRFC. Also we have people who want to play for the club. Off the field I am sure they would say that nothing has changed. The only change on the BoD is that GoD has stood down, the review (if there was one) showed that no one was to blame - we just needed a seasoned striker who scores regularly (which we still haven't got) and some poor buggers amongst the stadium staff have had their marching orders. The stadium has been promised to start in September, October, November, sorry January and all is well with the world..... Without wishing to appear to be confrontational here Cheshiregas, you do appear to be in denial on this subject. I seem to remember that you had a different view to me on this matter a few days ago, and I do wonder why. If I may enquire, what is your agenda? I have made my statement that posters appeared to desire our relegation, dagnogo seems to agree with me, but despite all of this you seem to prevaricate. To my knowledge no-one has said that it was you who wished for relegation, so why the ongoing angst on your part?
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Oct 13, 2014 19:21:34 GMT
Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 13, 2014 19:21:34 GMT
No angst at all Brizzle. I am quite happy with my life thanks pal. And I certainly don't have any agendas ~ are you falling in line with our friend Henbury who thinks some people has a hidden agenda? It was just the way I phrased it ~ I didn't mean it to come across that you had indicated I had said it. I know there were people who speculated on whether it might be better if we were relegated as it might shake things up. I know there were those who even mentioned that administration might be an option considering how well others seemed to have done out of it. I just find it intriguing and highly amusing that people speculate on why its so quiet. Where have all the moaners gone? Where have all the BoD knockers gone? etc etc Could it be that those same people asking the questions are like (as one regular mentions) trying to stir the **** pot? I cannot understand why people want to make an issue of some people not posting like Kwoodgas harping on about Kevin Spencer not posting. It's like they are just looking for a fight. Why can't they enjoy the fact we are winning. They can't some just like to keep digging and stirring. Perhaps dear friend you ought to be asking them what their agenda is..... Have a good evening pal
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Post by c13 on Oct 13, 2014 20:41:56 GMT
I don't think that it's any strange phenomenon going on here, it's the result of three added factors:
I. People generally use the forums to vent something, be it a huge burst of happiness or a surge of anger; since we've been in great form recently, but still in the odious Vanarama Conference, I think people simply decided to just keep watching without input and see where it goes from here;
II. The attendance of games rose a bit compared to the beginning of the season, which suggests that many fans are getting their arses up from their couches and going to matches. Probably reluctant to access the forum afterwards and end up reading some BS they don't agree with;
III. (This one is speculation in my part) People got tired of the constant fighting amongst members around here, and Cheshiregas strenghtens my point in quoting Kwoodgas gratuitously having a dig at Kevin Spencer even though the OP was, surely, not sharing his intentions.
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Oct 14, 2014 11:52:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 11:52:33 GMT
Blimey Chesh, you would have been the last one on this forum (other forums are available) I would have thought of: "having an agenda" - whatever that means UTG
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Oct 14, 2014 12:06:16 GMT
Post by brizzle on Oct 14, 2014 12:06:16 GMT
No angst at all Brizzle. I am quite happy with my life thanks pal. And I certainly don't have any agendas ~ are you falling in line with our friend Henbury who thinks some people has a hidden agenda? It was just the way I phrased it ~ I didn't mean it to come across that you had indicated I had said it. I know there were people who speculated on whether it might be better if we were relegated as it might shake things up. I know there were those who even mentioned that administration might be an option considering how well others seemed to have done out of it. I just find it intriguing and highly amusing that people speculate on why its so quiet. Where have all the moaners gone? Where have all the BoD knockers gone? etc etc Could it be that those same people asking the questions are like (as one regular mentions) trying to stir the **** pot? I cannot understand why people want to make an issue of some people not posting like Kwoodgas harping on about Kevin Spencer not posting. It's like they are just looking for a fight. Why can't they enjoy the fact we are winning. They can't some just like to keep digging and stirring. Perhaps dear friend you ought to be asking them what their agenda is..... Have a good evening pal Good afternoon Cheshiregas, from a very wet and windy Bristol. I'm sorry for the delay in replying to your post, but I've only just stumbled across it as you didn't link your reply to mine. In any event I'm pleased that we both seem to agree on the matter in hand, and I do apologise if you found any parts of my post to be provocative. I can assure you that this was not my intention, and I blame the forum format for that as it's clearly not the ideal way to conduct a conversation of potentially differing opinions. That's why I applaud the initiative that kingswoodpolak has shown in organising a get-together tomorrow, as I'm quite certain that it is only the written word that comes between people when they fail to express themselves adequately or properly. It's a shame that you probably won't be able to make the occasion, but meanwhile it does appear that I have fallen into the category that I have mentioned previously, which from my point of view is unfortunate, and also untrue. As for the rest of your post I'm undecided what my role in it is. Is it aimed at me personally, or other posters who's posts have come to your attention, and on the face of it appear to have upset you? I'm undecided, but as I have no ties to any others on here I'll allow those comments to pass, as I'm quite certain that you'll let me know if I have misread the situation. Once again my apologies for using the words angst and agenda in relation to yourself, it was quite unintentional on my part and no offence intended. Note to self: Must Do Better. Kind regards.
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Oct 14, 2014 13:12:21 GMT
Post by faggotygas on Oct 14, 2014 13:12:21 GMT
May I ask what the people complaining that the forum is quiet are expecting? It would be a pain the rear if people created new threads headlined 'Hooray we won' or whatever every 5 minutes, or if everyone who agrees with something replied with 'I agree'. There's little new discussion to be had at the moment.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 14, 2014 13:54:56 GMT
Good afternoon Cheshiregas, from a very wet and windy Bristol. I'm sorry for the delay in replying to your post, but I've only just stumbled across it as you didn't link your reply to mine. In any event I'm pleased that we both seem to agree on the matter in hand, and I do apologise if you found any parts of my post to be provocative. I can assure you that this was not my intention, and I blame the forum format for that as it's clearly not the ideal way to conduct a conversation of potentially differing opinions. That's why I applaud the initiative that kingswoodpolak has shown in organising a get-together tomorrow, as I'm quite certain that it is only the written word that comes between people when they fail to express themselves adequately or properly. It's a shame that you probably won't be able to make the occasion, but meanwhile it does appear that I have fallen into the category that I have mentioned previously, which from my point of view is unfortunate, and also untrue. As for the rest of your post I'm undecided what my role in it is. Is it aimed at me personally, or other posters who's posts have come to your attention, and on the face of it appear to have upset you? I'm undecided, but as I have no ties to any others on here I'll allow those comments to pass, as I'm quite certain that you'll let me know if I have misread the situation. Once again my apologies for using the words angst and agenda in relation to yourself, it was quite unintentional on my part and no offence intended. Note to self: Must Do Better. Kind regards. Brizzle I agree with you and applaud KP on his organised drink. I am hoping if time allows in the future to catch up with old friends at matches if I can get to the Mem, family commitments allowing, as it is a while since I have seen some of my fellow Gasheads, other than some at away games. I am sure that you haven't had a role in the various postings I mentioned other than the fact that you, like me, have been involved in the wider debate. And by the way it would take a lot to offend me so not apology necessary. I hope the drink up goes well because I am sure Gasheads have more in common than they think....
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