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Oct 11, 2014 18:25:25 GMT
Post by Bristol Rovers on Oct 11, 2014 18:25:25 GMT
It's quiet on here considering the run were on! 4th in the table, looking up for a change & hardly nothing about it. Is this normal?
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Post by Peter Parker on Oct 11, 2014 19:11:47 GMT
It's quiet on here considering the run were on! 4th in the table, looking up for a change & hardly nothing about it. Is this normal? Ormal for most forums. Always more to talk about when it isnt so good. Another point to extend our unbeaten run and we certainly have room for improvement which is a good thing. Hopefully we will be up there or there about come January and we can strengthen Lets be honest though we are only doing what should be and being at the top on this crappy league. Its not that easy to get excited about really
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Post by Blue Mist on Oct 11, 2014 21:35:13 GMT
I'm quietly happy but don't want to get too excited and jinx the form. I think many gasheads at the start of the season would happily have taken this position at this point in the season. We've hit a blip perhaps drawing a few games we should've won and yes we should be scoring more but the team look like they're together as a unit, they are fitter and as a consequence I think we have less injuries. Lots to be happy about and I have to say well done to DC.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 11, 2014 21:59:54 GMT
A lot of fans went to the game and are probably out as they normally are on a Saturday night. I think we are all pleased about our run but frustrated as to where we are (5th Division) and the fact that with someone with an eye for goal we could be even further ahead. I am not denigrating Matty Taylor but he is not hitting the net as we need (apart from penalties). Still the unbeaten run is nothing to be sniffed at and I hope we are still challenging at the end of the season. UTG
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Post by swissgas on Oct 11, 2014 23:59:32 GMT
There seems to be a consensus of caution about the on - field progress we are making from posters who report on games and who us ex pats rely on. Steve K gave a very honest assessment of the midweek game and it sounds as if todays performance was another unconvincing one. I think that the reason for the "quiet" is that many people now see beyond the short term and realize that no foundations are being layed either with the team or with the club. We had a report of Nick Higgs appearing on TV saying there would be good news at the end of November but there was no reaction. No jubilation that he expected building work to start in the spring but equally no sarcasm or ridicule that we had heard it all before. Just an empty feeling of resignation that what will be will be and who really cares anyway. But, as IrishRover posted last week, many of us believe a club should be so much more than this. The apathy is there from top to bottom and I have a feeling that the reason crowds are holding up so well is not because Rovers fans see any break through with the football team or want to share the vision of a club moving forward it's because they like a good day out. Now I'm a traditionalist and over the years Rovers have given me many happy times and the post astafjevs made on the Aldershot pub thread certainly strikes a chord with me. I can just imagine his car load of Gasheads pulling up outside that pub and seeing it crammed full and someone saying "b*gger this lads I know a place down the road" and the rest of them thinking "oh christ what are we letting ourselves in for here" and then find themselves bluffing their way into some club or boozer and having a whale of a time. After the draw at Southend which clinched promotion in 1974 I managed to blag my way into a very sophisticated night club in the West End of London along with my mates from North Somerset and we certainly had a "wail of a time that night. But times change, people change, football changes and I think one of the reasons for the emptiness in people's feelings about Rovers is because the motivation for following the team is a "good day out" and keeping up a tradition rather than also feeling part of a good club as we did in 1974. We congratulate ourselves on having a huge number of fans following the team but what does the future hold if "the lads" are not passionate about the team or the club but purely want a good time with their mates ? If people are sceptical whether we are laying the foundations of a team and sceptical whether we are going to lay the foundations of the UWE what do they think about the foundations being layed today for a fan base who will be following Rovers in large number forty years from now ? My lads were actually in a crowd of 60 000 at the University of Kentucky "football" game today. If you click the link and look at the gallery of fans at that game you will see a huge diversity of people having a good time. I doubt many of them know all the players names or have a great understanding of the significance of the result but they are intent on enjoying themselves. I'm not saying we should copy the way sport is run in the USA but I am saying we might learn from it. We might need to accept that us "traditionalists" have had our day and while there is still a place for us the future lies in attracting a different kind of fan base. The fans of the future may be like us in that they want a good day out but, unlike some of us disenchanted old timers today, they don't feel the need to be part of a club. www.kentucky.com/2014/10/11/3475798/kentucky-fans-bring-it-for-ulm.html
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Oct 12, 2014 0:10:00 GMT
Post by gasgomarchingin on Oct 12, 2014 0:10:00 GMT
There seems to be a consensus of caution about the on - field progress we are making from posters who report on games and who us ex pats rely on. Steve K gave a very honest assessment of the midweek game and it sounds as if todays performance was another unconvincing one. I think that the reason for the "quiet" is that many people now see beyond the short term and realize that no foundations are being layed either with the team or with the club. We had a report of Nick Higgs appearing on TV saying there would be good news at the end of November but there was no reaction. No jubilation that he expected building work to start in the spring but equally no sarcasm or ridicule that we had heard it all before. Just an empty feeling of resignation that what will be will be and who really cares anyway. But, as IrishRover posted last week, many of us believe a club should be so much more than this. The apathy is there from top to bottom and I have a feeling that the reason crowds are holding up so well is not because Rovers fans see any break through with the football team or want to share the vision of a club moving forward it's because they like a good day out. Now I'm a traditionalist and over the years Rovers have given me many happy times and the post astafjevs made on the Aldershot pub thread certainly strikes a chord with me. I can just imagine his car load of Gasheads pulling up outside that pub and seeing it crammed full and someone saying "b*gger this lads I know a place down the road" and the rest of them thinking "oh christ what are we letting ourselves in for here" and then find themselves bluffing their way into some club or boozer and having a whale of a time. After the draw at Southend which clinched promotion in 1974 I managed to blag my way into a very sophisticated night club in the West End of London along with my mates from North Somerset and we certainly had a "wail of a time that night. But times change, people change, football changes and I think one of the reasons for the emptiness in people's feelings about Rovers is because the motivation for following the team is a "good day out" and keeping up a tradition rather than also feeling part of a good club as we did in 1974. We congratulate ourselves on having a huge number of fans following the team but what does the future hold if "the lads" are not passionate about the team or the club but purely want a good time with their mates ? If people are sceptical whether we are laying the foundations of a team and sceptical whether we are going to lay the foundations of the UWE what do they think about the foundations being layed today for a fan base who will be following Rovers in large number forty years from now ? My lads were actually in a crowd of 60 000 at the University of Kentucky "football" game today. If you click the link and look at the gallery of fans at that game you will see a huge diversity of people having a good time. I doubt many of them know all the players names or have a great understanding of the significance of the result but they are intent on enjoying themselves. I'm not saying we should copy the way sport is run in the USA but I am saying we might learn from it. We might need to accept that us "traditionalists" have had our day and while there is still a place for us the future lies in attracting a different kind of fan base. The fans of the future may be like us in that they want a good day out but, unlike some of us disenchanted old timers today, they don't feel the need to be part of a club. www.kentucky.com/2014/10/11/3475798/kentucky-fans-bring-it-for-ulm.htmlRidiculous, were not American and never will be! Long live tradition.
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Oct 12, 2014 0:48:47 GMT
Post by markczgas on Oct 12, 2014 0:48:47 GMT
You are right swiss gas there is still a lot of fear and dispondancy among Rovers supporters and the players although doing everything are not playing with much freedom and quality either - they don't look like they believe they will win a game of football. The division is poor but there is a lot of unanswered stuff filtering down from the board. And to make things worse the s**t are riding high in L1.
we need new leadership at our club - some planning , determination and ruthlessness to get us out of this sesspit asap !!
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Oct 12, 2014 7:52:02 GMT
Post by Somerset Blue on Oct 12, 2014 7:52:02 GMT
There seems to be a consensus of caution about the on - field progress we are making from posters who report on games and who us ex pats rely on. Steve K gave a very honest assessment of the midweek game and it sounds as if todays performance was another unconvincing one. I think that the reason for the "quiet" is that many people now see beyond the short term and realize that no foundations are being layed either with the team or with the club. We had a report of Nick Higgs appearing on TV saying there would be good news at the end of November but there was no reaction. No jubilation that he expected building work to start in the spring but equally no sarcasm or ridicule that we had heard it all before. Just an empty feeling of resignation that what will be will be and who really cares anyway. But, as IrishRover posted last week, many of us believe a club should be so much more than this. The apathy is there from top to bottom and I have a feeling that the reason crowds are holding up so well is not because Rovers fans see any break through with the football team or want to share the vision of a club moving forward it's because they like a good day out. Now I'm a traditionalist and over the years Rovers have given me many happy times and the post astafjevs made on the Aldershot pub thread certainly strikes a chord with me. I can just imagine his car load of Gasheads pulling up outside that pub and seeing it crammed full and someone saying "b*gger this lads I know a place down the road" and the rest of them thinking "oh christ what are we letting ourselves in for here" and then find themselves bluffing their way into some club or boozer and having a whale of a time. After the draw at Southend which clinched promotion in 1974 I managed to blag my way into a very sophisticated night club in the West End of London along with my mates from North Somerset and we certainly had a "wail of a time that night. But times change, people change, football changes and I think one of the reasons for the emptiness in people's feelings about Rovers is because the motivation for following the team is a "good day out" and keeping up a tradition rather than also feeling part of a good club as we did in 1974. We congratulate ourselves on having a huge number of fans following the team but what does the future hold if "the lads" are not passionate about the team or the club but purely want a good time with their mates ? If people are sceptical whether we are laying the foundations of a team and sceptical whether we are going to lay the foundations of the UWE what do they think about the foundations being layed today for a fan base who will be following Rovers in large number forty years from now ? My lads were actually in a crowd of 60 000 at the University of Kentucky "football" game today. If you click the link and look at the gallery of fans at that game you will see a huge diversity of people having a good time. I doubt many of them know all the players names or have a great understanding of the significance of the result but they are intent on enjoying themselves. I'm not saying we should copy the way sport is run in the USA but I am saying we might learn from it. We might need to accept that us "traditionalists" have had our day and while there is still a place for us the future lies in attracting a different kind of fan base. The fans of the future may be like us in that they want a good day out but, unlike some of us disenchanted old timers today, they don't feel the need to be part of a club. www.kentucky.com/2014/10/11/3475798/kentucky-fans-bring-it-for-ulm.htmlGreat post .... absolutely on the money!!
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Oct 12, 2014 11:19:56 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 11:19:56 GMT
Hope you're well swiss. UTG
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Oct 12, 2014 11:42:18 GMT
Post by kwoodgas on Oct 12, 2014 11:42:18 GMT
Sure Wes and King Kevin will be back when we lose a few.
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Oct 12, 2014 13:35:41 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 13:35:41 GMT
Sure Wes and King Kevin will be back when we lose a few. Why do you always have to have a dig! Kevin will not be back as he no longer has an account.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 14:23:23 GMT
There seems to be a consensus of caution about the on - field progress we are making from posters who report on games and who us ex pats rely on. Steve K gave a very honest assessment of the midweek game and it sounds as if todays performance was another unconvincing one. I think that the reason for the "quiet" is that many people now see beyond the short term and realize that no foundations are being layed either with the team or with the club. We had a report of Nick Higgs appearing on TV saying there would be good news at the end of November but there was no reaction. No jubilation that he expected building work to start in the spring but equally no sarcasm or ridicule that we had heard it all before. Just an empty feeling of resignation that what will be will be and who really cares anyway. But, as IrishRover posted last week, many of us believe a club should be so much more than this. The apathy is there from top to bottom and I have a feeling that the reason crowds are holding up so well is not because Rovers fans see any break through with the football team or want to share the vision of a club moving forward it's because they like a good day out. Now I'm a traditionalist and over the years Rovers have given me many happy times and the post astafjevs made on the Aldershot pub thread certainly strikes a chord with me. I can just imagine his car load of Gasheads pulling up outside that pub and seeing it crammed full and someone saying "b*gger this lads I know a place down the road" and the rest of them thinking "oh christ what are we letting ourselves in for here" and then find themselves bluffing their way into some club or boozer and having a whale of a time. After the draw at Southend which clinched promotion in 1974 I managed to blag my way into a very sophisticated night club in the West End of London along with my mates from North Somerset and we certainly had a "wail of a time that night. But times change, people change, football changes and I think one of the reasons for the emptiness in people's feelings about Rovers is because the motivation for following the team is a "good day out" and keeping up a tradition rather than also feeling part of a good club as we did in 1974. We congratulate ourselves on having a huge number of fans following the team but what does the future hold if "the lads" are not passionate about the team or the club but purely want a good time with their mates ? If people are sceptical whether we are laying the foundations of a team and sceptical whether we are going to lay the foundations of the UWE what do they think about the foundations being layed today for a fan base who will be following Rovers in large number forty years from now ? My lads were actually in a crowd of 60 000 at the University of Kentucky "football" game today. If you click the link and look at the gallery of fans at that game you will see a huge diversity of people having a good time. I doubt many of them know all the players names or have a great understanding of the significance of the result but they are intent on enjoying themselves. I'm not saying we should copy the way sport is run in the USA but I am saying we might learn from it. We might need to accept that us "traditionalists" have had our day and while there is still a place for us the future lies in attracting a different kind of fan base. The fans of the future may be like us in that they want a good day out but, unlike some of us disenchanted old timers today, they don't feel the need to be part of a club. www.kentucky.com/2014/10/11/3475798/kentucky-fans-bring-it-for-ulm.htmltbh, after years of caring too much about it all, I just want to watch the only football team I know and I think that applies to many. For some people, that's all it ever was. For a lot of people, having a good time with their mates is the whole of the experience, that's what it IS. I turn up, often on my own, and get chatting to people I've known for years because I know they'll be there (maybe not specific individuals but I know I'll see somebody I know. I may not even know their names but we'll recognise each other and say hi, sometimes watch the game together. I know loads of these people don't share the same views, experiences, backgrounds, political opinions etc as me. It doesn't matter, what matters is that we're watching the Gas and we know everyone around us wants the same thing. In that sense, I think it's possible to overthink this stuff. We just want a Saturday afternoon distraction watching our team and that's a deep enough connection really.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 12, 2014 14:54:05 GMT
There seems to be a consensus of caution about the on - field progress we are making from posters who report on games and who us ex pats rely on. Steve K gave a very honest assessment of the midweek game and it sounds as if todays performance was another unconvincing one. I think that the reason for the "quiet" is that many people now see beyond the short term and realize that no foundations are being layed either with the team or with the club. We had a report of Nick Higgs appearing on TV saying there would be good news at the end of November but there was no reaction. No jubilation that he expected building work to start in the spring but equally no sarcasm or ridicule that we had heard it all before. Just an empty feeling of resignation that what will be will be and who really cares anyway. But, as IrishRover posted last week, many of us believe a club should be so much more than this. The apathy is there from top to bottom and I have a feeling that the reason crowds are holding up so well is not because Rovers fans see any break through with the football team or want to share the vision of a club moving forward it's because they like a good day out. Now I'm a traditionalist and over the years Rovers have given me many happy times and the post astafjevs made on the Aldershot pub thread certainly strikes a chord with me. I can just imagine his car load of Gasheads pulling up outside that pub and seeing it crammed full and someone saying "b*gger this lads I know a place down the road" and the rest of them thinking "oh christ what are we letting ourselves in for here" and then find themselves bluffing their way into some club or boozer and having a whale of a time. After the draw at Southend which clinched promotion in 1974 I managed to blag my way into a very sophisticated night club in the West End of London along with my mates from North Somerset and we certainly had a "wail of a time that night. But times change, people change, football changes and I think one of the reasons for the emptiness in people's feelings about Rovers is because the motivation for following the team is a "good day out" and keeping up a tradition rather than also feeling part of a good club as we did in 1974. We congratulate ourselves on having a huge number of fans following the team but what does the future hold if "the lads" are not passionate about the team or the club but purely want a good time with their mates ? If people are sceptical whether we are laying the foundations of a team and sceptical whether we are going to lay the foundations of the UWE what do they think about the foundations being layed today for a fan base who will be following Rovers in large number forty years from now ? My lads were actually in a crowd of 60 000 at the University of Kentucky "football" game today. If you click the link and look at the gallery of fans at that game you will see a huge diversity of people having a good time. I doubt many of them know all the players names or have a great understanding of the significance of the result but they are intent on enjoying themselves. I'm not saying we should copy the way sport is run in the USA but I am saying we might learn from it. We might need to accept that us "traditionalists" have had our day and while there is still a place for us the future lies in attracting a different kind of fan base. The fans of the future may be like us in that they want a good day out but, unlike some of us disenchanted old timers today, they don't feel the need to be part of a club. www.kentucky.com/2014/10/11/3475798/kentucky-fans-bring-it-for-ulm.htmltbh, after years of caring too much about it all, I just want to watch the only football team I know and I think that applies to many. For some people, that's all it ever was. For a lot of people, having a good time with their mates is the whole of the experience, that's what it IS. I turn up, often on my own, and get chatting to people I've known for years because I know they'll be there (maybe not specific individuals but I know I'll see somebody I know. I may not even know their names but we'll recognise each other and say hi, sometimes watch the game together. I know loads of these people don't share the same views, experiences, backgrounds, political opinions etc as me. It doesn't matter, what matters is that we're watching the Gas and we know everyone around us wants the same thing. In that sense, I think it's possible to overthink this stuff. We just want a Saturday afternoon distraction watching our team and that's a deep enough connection really. Without wishing to offend, patronise or blaspheme, it's a brilliant post that can be applied to any religious gathering! Which is somewhat parodied by our commitment to attend a certain place at a certain time and sometimes join in singing! And sometimes feel like sins have been absolved... Haha!
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Oct 12, 2014 15:00:51 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 15:00:51 GMT
Amen brother!
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Post by swissgas on Oct 12, 2014 16:55:09 GMT
Apparently, in the past, the crowds at Church of England matches went up at times of crisis, wars etc, but went down in periods of calm. So what will happen next season and the season after that if we are still in the Conference ? Will there be an acceptance of our status and will the singing and camaraderie continue with 5000+ fans still enjoying themselves every week. Or will fans calmly lose interest, drift away and as the number of comrades reduces will the singing become quieter.
We can choose to forget about all that and just live for the moment but isn't that being a bit selfish ? At times of crisis in the past we've had Rovers fans like Douglas Mearns-Milne or Geoff and Denis Dunford step up and provide the inspiration which kept the club (not just the team) going. We seem to be saying today that as long as we are having a bit of fun who cares.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 12, 2014 17:03:04 GMT
Apparently, in the past, the crowds at Church of England matches went up at times of crisis, wars etc, but went down in periods of calm. So what will happen next season and the season after that if we are still in the Conference ? Will there be an acceptance of our status and will the singing and camaraderie continue with 5000+ fans still enjoying themselves every week. Or will fans calmly lose interest, drift away and as the number of comrades reduces will the singing become quieter. We can choose to forget about all that and just live for the moment but isn't that being a bit selfish ? At times of crisis in the past we've had Rovers fans like Douglas Mearns-Milne or Geoff and Denis Dunford step up and provide the inspiration which kept the club (not just the team) going. We seem to be saying today that as long as we are having a bit of fun who cares. Love it! Good question, whom is considered our most contemporary inspiration? Is there one?? Until we (in unison) sing for Darrell Clarke (if ever) that sentimental position is in limbo..
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 12, 2014 17:08:55 GMT
What a load of nonsense on this thread the reason the forum is quiet is there is nothing really to moan about, plus fans know nothing is going to happen this month on the stadium or transfer front.
The fact that probably 7, 000+ will turn up next Saturday suggests most fans aren't despondent at present, beat FGR and fans will start believing promotion is possible.
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Oct 12, 2014 17:14:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 17:14:52 GMT
What a load of nonsense on this thread the reason the forum is quiet is there is nothing really to moan about, plus fans know nothing is going to happen this month on the stadium or transfer front. The fact that probably 7, 000+ will turn up next Saturday suggests most fans aren't despondent at present, beat FGR and fans will start believing promotion is possible. Tend to agree. People know the team isn't perfect and we've room for improvement. But the fact is that we're doing well on the pitch and that is reflected by crowds home and away. People are enjoying the days out but also appreciating the fact that this is business: Aldershot doesn't equate to Derby/Fulham/Brum in the Cup, we're turning up to cheer the team on to the points we need to go up. Generally, it's working.
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Post by swissgas on Oct 12, 2014 18:36:25 GMT
What a load of nonsense on this thread the reason the forum is quiet is there is nothing really to moan about, plus fans know nothing is going to happen this month on the stadium or transfer front. The fact that probably 7, 000+ will turn up next Saturday suggests most fans aren't despondent at present, beat FGR and fans will start believing promotion is possible. Tend to agree. People know the team isn't perfect and we've room for improvement. But the fact is that we're doing well on the pitch and that is reflected by crowds home and away. People are enjoying the days out but also appreciating the fact that this is business: Aldershot doesn't equate to Derby/Fulham/Brum in the Cup, we're turning up to cheer the team on to the points we need to go up. Generally, it's working. I understand what you are saying and I think most Rovers fans agree with you. But when you say "generally, it's working" you are referring to the Rovers team in the Conference Premier aren't you ? If we talk about the club then I think most Rovers fans would say "it's not working" but aren't bothered too much about that at the moment. There is a minority of fans who look at the club as a whole and perhaps (like me) can't get to games so tend to want explore ways in which Rovers as a club can build long term success on and off the pitch and we find it stimulating to do this. The current success of the team, in the Conference Premier, is obscuring the bigger picture or taking priority, whichever way you look at it, and so some posters are not quite as active at the moment. But we are a broad church aren't we.
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Oct 12, 2014 18:58:18 GMT
Post by brizzle on Oct 12, 2014 18:58:18 GMT
Sure Wes and King Kevin will be back when we lose a few. Why do you always have to have a dig! Kevin will not be back as he no longer has an account.Well that is a shame. I did wonder why I hadn't seen any posts from him recently, but I assumed that he must be away on holiday. What with Bas departing and now this, it's like an excerpt from ''And Then There Were None,'' by Agatha Christie.
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