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Post by Westcountry Gas on Oct 6, 2014 14:35:08 GMT
Carry on being a threat from the bench, he's only 20 and is not a stand out youngster who is good enough to start every week. If he keeps up his good form then when we go into the new year he's ready to start games, but Ellis is a player that if you throw him in the deep end too soon he will drown. His goals and the impact he has had on games have come from the bench, and the amount of gametime he has had should now be given to White, who IMO should start the next two games. I think Matty Taylor needs a breather, but I would defiantly bring back Taylor for the Aldershot game and play him as an attacking midfielder in a 4-3-1-2 or 3-5-2. avoiding the question. did you go to Eastleigh? he was excellent. all game. what more does he need to do? No i didn't go to Eastleigh, and am interested to hear in a bit more detail why he was excellent, certainly didn't see anything in the highlights package that stood out. I agree with what Steve has said, if Ellis is going to start games then he really needs to play off the shoulder of the last man and try and be a bit more direct, i think is his pace and energy is much more suited to being an impact sub, for me it's about players having a role that makes an impact rather than if they start games or not.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Oct 6, 2014 15:07:38 GMT
To go back to the original question, I think it is unlikely that White will get a start ahead of Cunnington, Taylor or Harrison at the moment.
I'm guessing his overall fitness has improved as with a number of Rovers squad, but he's in that typical catch 22. He needs games to improve his sharpness and come up to speed, but we can't give him games until his sharpness improves.
Having only seen him on youtube before coming to Rovers, he doesn't seem like a player that will boss central defenders, or put in the effort of the other 3 mentioned, but he is likely to pop up with a poachers goal.
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Post by mkgas on Oct 6, 2014 15:23:51 GMT
For me the answer is in the club, well hopefully.
A fit Balanta can be played up top and after seeing plenty of him for Dons, he adds genuine match winning quality.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 6, 2014 15:31:45 GMT
Balanta hasn't palyed a league game for over a season and has never been a regular scorer, to expect him to solve our goal scoring problems when he ever gets fit seems to be expecting alot.
As far as Cureton surely if D&R can afford his wages on gates of less than 2,000 each week then we could?? As said on another thread the wages spent on both Taylor & White could well have been better spent on one better player's wages.
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Post by brizzle on Oct 6, 2014 15:34:14 GMT
For me the answer is in the club, well hopefully. A fit Balanta can be played up top and after seeing plenty of him for Dons, he adds genuine match winning quality. I hope that you're right, mkgas. After all the hullabaloo of his signing for us, it's all gone a bit flat hasn't it? Not his fault of course, but I do look forward to the time that he runs out in the quarters.
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Post by lulworthgas on Oct 6, 2014 16:56:32 GMT
Thought white was awful against Halifax and personally don't think he will get a start until injuries or suspensions happen.
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Post by Alveston Gas on Oct 6, 2014 17:42:43 GMT
I too would prefer Harrison and Cunnington who were excellent together 2nd half at Eastleigh. I would also bring in Leadbitter on the right in place of Gosling. Don't think we can play Gosling and Taylor together in the side as both being small and somewhat lightweight falls into the hands of big Conference defenders like Dover and Eastleigh had.
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Post by michaelb on Oct 6, 2014 17:46:37 GMT
I would even consider Taylor and Harrison, Taylor holds the ball up well and can play players in, Harison has genuine strength and pace , it could work .
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Post by lockleazer on Oct 6, 2014 17:58:54 GMT
Cureton was available and happy to come to Rovers on a very low wage ... DC didnt want him due to his age
we need to forget curo now .. whatever the fans/manager/boards thoughts Curo is at another club now and wont play here again Harrison deserves a run in the side now and I reckon he would have started saturday if he hadnt been so shattered after a monumental effort at Eastleigh ... he will start tomorrow night imo
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Post by kevin14 on Oct 6, 2014 18:00:40 GMT
Working hard.
Running the channels is the minimum we should expect, however 1 goal in 14 games is not enough our board and manger must be looking at a new striker at all costs, check out Luton who had Benson and Gray to score the goals required to get them out this bloody awful league.
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Post by Gashead on Oct 6, 2014 22:31:32 GMT
Those who think Cureton was a viable option and that he 'wanted to come here' clearly didn't hear what John Ward said when he tried to sign him in the summer of 2013.
I don't necessarily think he was the problem, but his agent certainly was.
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Post by ellington on Oct 6, 2014 22:34:06 GMT
I still think Dj Campbell would be an excellent choice.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Oct 6, 2014 22:55:01 GMT
I still think Dj Campbell would be an excellent choice. I agree, but I sense he is biding his time until an offer from at least a L1 club comes along.
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Post by alloutofgas on Oct 6, 2014 22:55:10 GMT
avoiding the question. did you go to Eastleigh? he was excellent. all game. what more does he need to do? No i didn't go to Eastleigh, and am interested to hear in a bit more detail why he was excellent, certainly didn't see anything in the highlights package that stood out. I agree with what Steve has said, if Ellis is going to start games then he really needs to play off the shoulder of the last man and try and be a bit more direct, i think is his pace and energy is much more suited to being an impact sub, for me it's about players having a role that makes an impact rather than if they start games or not. Mate, Ellis was the stand out player at Eastleigh. He terrorised their defence, either running off the ball or with it. They could not deal with him. He was subbed because he was blowing out of his arse. I have to agree, him and Adam to start.
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Post by mehewmagic on Oct 7, 2014 1:02:38 GMT
avoiding the question. did you go to Eastleigh? he was excellent. all game. what more does he need to do? No i didn't go to Eastleigh, and am interested to hear in a bit more detail why he was excellent, certainly didn't see anything in the highlights package that stood out. I agree with what Steve has said, if Ellis is going to start games then he really needs to play off the shoulder of the last man and try and be a bit more direct, i think is his pace and energy is much more suited to being an impact sub, for me it's about players having a role that makes an impact rather than if they start games or not. that is EXACTLY what he did. consistently harried and hassled the last man, and the goalie (which led to our goal). used pace, control and even a bit of brawn to force errors. consistently went towards goal (as opposed to sideways ot just holding up play). was absolutely shattered at the end. impact sub? what a waste. And i find the whole concept tired and outdated. I appreciate that Ellis has had a checkered past with us, but now the lad has knuckled down and is performing he now needs to be given his reward.
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Post by mehewmagic on Oct 7, 2014 1:04:34 GMT
No i didn't go to Eastleigh, and am interested to hear in a bit more detail why he was excellent, certainly didn't see anything in the highlights package that stood out. I agree with what Steve has said, if Ellis is going to start games then he really needs to play off the shoulder of the last man and try and be a bit more direct, i think is his pace and energy is much more suited to being an impact sub, for me it's about players having a role that makes an impact rather than if they start games or not. Mate, Ellis was the stand out player at Eastleigh. He terrorised their defence, either running off the ball or with it. They could not deal with him. He was subbed because he was blowing out of his arse. I have to agree, him and Adam to start. exactly. I love it how people who didn't go to the match have such strong opinions.
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Post by PeterHooper57 on Oct 7, 2014 5:42:15 GMT
I would even consider Taylor and Harrison, Taylor holds the ball up well and can play players in, Harison has genuine strength and pace , it could work . Taylor, 1 goal in 13, says it all, he looks scared stiff and has no confidence in front of goal. Watched Jamie White last week in the friendly with FGR, he was shocking, Cunnington and Ellis up front for me. O ye and Clarke needs to use is so called "connections" and bring in another attacker asap (preferably somebody he did not have at Salisbury, in the league below). UTG
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Post by mclovin1883 on Oct 7, 2014 9:30:11 GMT
White should start tomorrow, hasn't been given a chance yet which is understandable as DC wanted to get him fit and integrate him slowly into playing in front of crowds 10 times bigger than those at Salisbury. Ellis just isn't good enough to start a game, he was doing well coming off the bench with 20 minutes to go and i think DC should use him in that role, otherwise we are going to end up with Ellis going backwards in his rehabilitation as a pro footballer. Once White has had 2 or 3 games in the team, and then when Balanata is given a chance and we are still struggling, i would say Mr Higgs needs to get that cheque written up for DC to go out and find a decent quality striker on loan. At the moment we are only in the first week of October, and the important thing is that although most of our strikers aren't finding the net, we have goals in our team from the midfield, and Trotman is providing a massive threat from set pieces. The draw on Saturday was disappointing but it seems like those under currents of panic and moaning are resurfacing to quickly for my liking. . Well said exactly how I would of put it can't believe there was boo boys out after a 1-1 draw to keep us going unbeaten for 7 games I think it's a disgrace
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 7, 2014 9:39:36 GMT
Although Jamie White and DC have been prior acquaintances, I cannot help but wonder why he didn't get Dan Fitchett from Salisbury as well?
They both had good scoring records for Salisbury last year, so obviously made a good pairing.
Another good pairing were the Sinclair brothers. Am glad we had the best one though.
And Salisbury done ok last year, pairings that fit well in a team seem a logical move for a club under restructuring.
Fitchett now at Aldershot. Wonder I he'll feature Saturday?!
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Oct 7, 2014 10:05:05 GMT
I would even consider Taylor and Harrison, Taylor holds the ball up well and can play players in, Harison has genuine strength and pace , it could work . Taylor, 1 goal in 13, says it all, he looks scared stiff and has no confidence in front of goal. Watched Jamie White last week in the friendly with FGR, he was shocking, Cunnington and Ellis up front for me. O ye and Clarke needs to use is so called "connections" and bring in another attacker asap (preferably somebody he did not have at Salisbury, in the league below). UTG I don't get where this myth that DC only signs players from Salisbury. Out of the 12 that he has signed only 3 have been from there and one of them is one of our top performers. Some people on here make out like we've signed their whole f*****g team.
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