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Post by gasforever50 on Oct 6, 2014 8:00:19 GMT
will he get a start? Not fit? He was ment to be are nonleague jamie cureton
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 8:20:06 GMT
I was wondering the same - a stone overweight when he joined and not match fit I heard. It's now October, is anything else going on?
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Post by gass on Oct 6, 2014 9:29:05 GMT
We're Unbeaten in 7 games, so why would we change a winning/tough to beat formula?
I would suggest he will get a chance if our form drops, but as yet, I have seen nothing to suggest he deserves a place in the team over Matty Taylor.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 6, 2014 9:34:29 GMT
So 1 goal in 14 is good enough because we have a winning formula? I would suggest that Matty Taylors form has dropped and that his workrate is NOT the quality that we need for what should be our main striker. In fact I would say his workrate is what is taking him away from the position he SHOULD be taking up which is working OFF Cunnington. Anywhere near a decent return from our main striker would have seen us sitting on top of this League now.
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Post by alasitsgas on Oct 6, 2014 9:51:33 GMT
It seems our league position could suffer because we cannot score more than one goal which is what happened with Dover on Saturday. More than that unless a class proven scorer is bought in this will be a constant problem.
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Post by Igitur on Oct 6, 2014 10:01:04 GMT
Taylor and White have not done the biz; a better set-up is Ellis and Cunnington to start, Ellis is as mobile as the other two and is not so easily knocked off the ball. It still leaves options on the bench.
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Oct 6, 2014 10:07:30 GMT
We need to be more clinical. We need to score more goals. We need to kill games off.
If our current forwards cannot convert their chances then we need to go out and get a forward that can ASAP. I honestly believe we have a great chance of doing something this season. We CAN be a football league club next season.
Goals scored cost us last year. Please don't let it happen again this season.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Oct 6, 2014 10:16:50 GMT
White should start tomorrow, hasn't been given a chance yet which is understandable as DC wanted to get him fit and integrate him slowly into playing in front of crowds 10 times bigger than those at Salisbury. Ellis just isn't good enough to start a game, he was doing well coming off the bench with 20 minutes to go and i think DC should use him in that role, otherwise we are going to end up with Ellis going backwards in his rehabilitation as a pro footballer. Once White has had 2 or 3 games in the team, and then when Balanata is given a chance and we are still struggling, i would say Mr Higgs needs to get that cheque written up for DC to go out and find a decent quality striker on loan. At the moment we are only in the first week of October, and the important thing is that although most of our strikers aren't finding the net, we have goals in our team from the midfield, and Trotman is providing a massive threat from set pieces. The draw on Saturday was disappointing but it seems like those under currents of panic and moaning are resurfacing to quickly for my liking.
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Post by gass on Oct 6, 2014 10:35:17 GMT
So 1 goal in 14 is good enough because we have a winning formula? I would suggest that Matty Taylors form has dropped and that his workrate is NOT the quality that we need for what should be our main striker. In fact I would say his workrate is what is taking him away from the position he SHOULD be taking up which is working OFF Cunnington. Anywhere near a decent return from our main striker would have seen us sitting on top of this League now. There is no doubt that 1 goal in 14 simply is not good enough for any centre forward. However, I do believe that he should be given credit for the work he does, running the channels, holding up the ball, defending from the front. If, White is not fit, I fear we may lose creativity in attacking areas by putting him in the team. Not much good having a goalscorer up front, if he has nothing to feed off.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Oct 6, 2014 10:44:33 GMT
Taylor and White have not done the biz; a better set-up is Ellis and Cunnington to start, Ellis is as mobile as the other two and is not so easily knocked off the ball. It still leaves options on the bench. DC has tended to use Harrison and Cunnington interchageably, but I agree that this would be a good combination, whether from the start or as a change.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 6, 2014 11:09:39 GMT
Perhaps Clarkes substitutions have become a bit too predictable. If we notice it then I am sure opponents will. when you have a targetman then big centre halves have something to worry about when the ball is booted out (which we commomnly do) Two shorter faster players are trouble for big guys if those players push up on them and the ball is passed through (which we rarely do)
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Post by mehewmagic on Oct 6, 2014 13:31:51 GMT
White should start tomorrow, hasn't been given a chance yet which is understandable as DC wanted to get him fit and integrate him slowly into playing in front of crowds 10 times bigger than those at Salisbury. Ellis just isn't good enough to start a game, he was doing well coming off the bench with 20 minutes to go and i think DC should use him in that role, otherwise we are going to end up with Ellis going backwards in his rehabilitation as a pro footballer. uh? did you go to eastleigh. he was excellent from start to late subbing, and his partnership with Cunnington changed the game. And scored a corker vs Lincoln, and an important goal vs Halifax what else does the lad have to do?
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Post by mpbrfc on Oct 6, 2014 13:38:47 GMT
so we go and buy a proven striker "of the shelf" because its that easy to do!........i cant imagine we can afford a "top striker" or they are that readily available. we,ve tried the loan market with a high percentage of failure , I suggest we give all the strikers we have a fair crack of the whip till January and see where we are then (our chairman has pretty much said the same ).....in my opinion they seem to be doing a decent job at the moment.
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Post by mpbrfc on Oct 6, 2014 13:39:18 GMT
so we go and buy a proven striker "of the shelf" because its that easy to do!........i cant imagine we can afford a "top striker" or they are that readily available. we,ve tried the loan market with a high percentage of failure , I suggest we give all the strikers we have a fair crack of the whip till January and see where we are then (our chairman has pretty much said the same ).....in my opinion they seem to be doing a decent job at the moment.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Oct 6, 2014 13:48:17 GMT
White should start tomorrow, hasn't been given a chance yet which is understandable as DC wanted to get him fit and integrate him slowly into playing in front of crowds 10 times bigger than those at Salisbury. Ellis just isn't good enough to start a game, he was doing well coming off the bench with 20 minutes to go and i think DC should use him in that role, otherwise we are going to end up with Ellis going backwards in his rehabilitation as a pro footballer. uh? did you go to eastleigh. he was excellent from start to late subbing, and his partnership with Cunnington changed the game. And scored a corker vs Lincoln, and an important goal vs Halifax what else does the lad have to do? Carry on being a threat from the bench, he's only 20 and is not a stand out youngster who is good enough to start every week. If he keeps up his good form then when we go into the new year he's ready to start games, but Ellis is a player that if you throw him in the deep end too soon he will drown. His goals and the impact he has had on games have come from the bench, and the amount of gametime he has had should now be given to White, who IMO should start the next two games. I think Matty Taylor needs a breather, but I would defiantly bring back Taylor for the Aldershot game and play him as an attacking midfielder in a 4-3-1-2 or 3-5-2.
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Post by mehewmagic on Oct 6, 2014 14:11:09 GMT
uh? did you go to eastleigh. he was excellent from start to late subbing, and his partnership with Cunnington changed the game. And scored a corker vs Lincoln, and an important goal vs Halifax what else does the lad have to do? Carry on being a threat from the bench, he's only 20 and is not a stand out youngster who is good enough to start every week. If he keeps up his good form then when we go into the new year he's ready to start games, but Ellis is a player that if you throw him in the deep end too soon he will drown. His goals and the impact he has had on games have come from the bench, and the amount of gametime he has had should now be given to White, who IMO should start the next two games. I think Matty Taylor needs a breather, but I would defiantly bring back Taylor for the Aldershot game and play him as an attacking midfielder in a 4-3-1-2 or 3-5-2. avoiding the question. did you go to Eastleigh? he was excellent. all game. what more does he need to do?
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Oct 6, 2014 14:13:18 GMT
Ellis has done more than enough (compared to the other strikers) to earn his first start at home on Tuesday. He was able to handle the pressure when he first came into the team in league two, so there is no reason why he cannot do that now.
Play him up front with Cunnington tomorrow.
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Post by brizzle on Oct 6, 2014 14:13:42 GMT
will he get a start? Not fit? He was ment to be are nonleague jamie cureton Talking of Jamie Cureton, I was disappointed that we didn't sign him in the close-season when he was available. It's quite possibly true that he might have stretched the budget slightly, but if our avowed aim is to regain our Football League status at the first attempt, then surely he was the striker for us? Anyway he now plays in League Two for Dagenham & Redbridge, and is scoring regularly for them, so the statement by DC that Cureton was ''too old,'' at the start of the season looks a little off the pace now. I said at the time (and I still believe it), that even at the age that he is he would have been a good acquisition for us . . . even if it were just for the season. The goals that he is scoring for D&R in League Two would have been more than welcome in the Conference for BRFC. There must have been more to it than was made public, or were we just plain old-fashioned short sighted?
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 6, 2014 14:24:49 GMT
Play him up front with Cunnington with strict instructions to stay on the last man and within reasonable distance of Cunnington. We've got hard work in abundance so don't need everyone hard working but we do need somebody scoring regularly.
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Post by Igitur on Oct 6, 2014 14:26:40 GMT
I prefer to be 2-0 up, rather than a shaky 1-0 or 1-1 having to bring on a player such as Ellis.
To me Gosling, Taylor and White should have the pace to beat the centre halves, but they do not seem to be able to get in behind them (ooh er missus) and are too easily bounced off the ball.
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