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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 13:03:41 GMT
I see on Beastleigh's forum they're moaning about Kaiser Wilhelm handballing outside the area saying it should have been a red card. Not convinced Der Kaiser actually did handle outside the area and it certainly wouldn't have been a red card there. Thought our Germanic keeper did a decent job after coming in cold. Hopefully another good performance will come on Saturday.
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Post by nailseamark on Oct 1, 2014 13:13:21 GMT
I must say I was in line with the incident and it certainly looked outside of his area to me. Think the ref might of taken pity on us for the questionable red card for Mildenhall.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Oct 1, 2014 13:14:15 GMT
Lino raised the flag and put it straight down when the ref shouted NO WAYYYYY!!
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Oct 1, 2014 13:16:18 GMT
Law 12
Sending-off offenses
A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the following seven offenses:
• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)
• denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal by an offense punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick
So was there a goal scoring opportunity? If not, there is no way Puddy could be sent off even if he did handle the ball outside the area.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 1, 2014 13:16:20 GMT
Lino raised the flag and put it straight down when the ref shouted NO WAYYYYY!! As in 'No way, I can't send another keeper off!' |
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Post by DudeLebowski on Oct 1, 2014 13:21:51 GMT
Lino raised the flag and put it straight down when the ref shouted NO WAYYYYY!! As in 'No way, I can't send another keeper off!' Most probably that! Haha |
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Post by brizzle on Oct 1, 2014 13:27:20 GMT
I must say I was in line with the incident and it certainly looked outside of his area to me. Think the ref might of taken pity on us for the questionable red card for Mildenhall.Now that does have the ring of truth to it. I've always believed that when a referee makes a mistake (and we all know that they do, from time to time), then they will attempt to ''even up'' in the next few minutes, this usually applies to simple things like free kicks, throw-in's, etc. Alternatively, as the ref had already dismissed one Rovers goalie, perhaps he ''bottled'' it when faced with a second.  |
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Oct 1, 2014 13:30:13 GMT
I must say I was in line with the incident and it certainly looked outside of his area to me. Think the ref might of taken pity on us for the questionable red card for Mildenhall.Alternatively, as the ref had already dismissed one Rovers goalie, perhaps he ''bottled'' it when faced with a second. Or he was actually following the rules! It cannot be a red card unless Puddy denied an Eeastleigh goal scoring opportunity. I was not there so can anyone tell me if one of their players had a chance of scoring? |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 1, 2014 13:31:35 GMT
As Oscar Wilde (played right back up the Arsenal) used to say, 'sending one keeper off is unfortunate, sending two off is careless.'
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Post by brizzle on Oct 1, 2014 13:46:01 GMT
Alternatively, as the ref had already dismissed one Rovers goalie, perhaps he ''bottled'' it when faced with a second. Or he was actually following the rules! It cannot be a red card unless Puddy denied an Eeastleigh goal scoring opportunity. I was not there so can anyone tell me if one of their players had a chance of scoring? Many thanks for clarifying Del Monte, but my post should have been quoted in full to get the complete context. The clue is in the first word . . . alternatively. |
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Oct 1, 2014 13:54:39 GMT
Or he was actually following the rules! It cannot be a red card unless Puddy denied an Eeastleigh goal scoring opportunity. I was not there so can anyone tell me if one of their players had a chance of scoring? Many thanks for clarifying Del Monte, but my post should have been quoted in full to get the complete context. The clue is in the first word . . . alternatively. I was not dismissing your post brizzle. Sorry if it seemed that way! Just wanted to add that the ref could have been right as another option! |
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Post by brizzle on Oct 1, 2014 14:05:59 GMT
Many thanks for clarifying Del Monte, but my post should have been quoted in full to get the complete context. The clue is in the first word . . . alternatively. I was not dismissing your post brizzle. Sorry if it seemed that way! Just wanted to add that the ref could have been right as another option!He most certainly could Del Monte. Referees eh? They're a law unto themselves.  |
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Post by brfclee on Oct 1, 2014 14:08:32 GMT
You could even argue that the handling of the ball was not deliberately done as he just lost his positioning and thought he was still inside his area.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 14:10:22 GMT
Law 12 Sending-off offenses A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the following seven offenses: • denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area) • denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal by an offense punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick So was there a goal scoring opportunity? If not, there is no way Puddy could be sent off even if he did handle the ball outside the area. EXACTLY! |
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Post by bs20gas on Oct 1, 2014 14:11:20 GMT
Mildenhall got the ball and should not have been sent off and Puddy clearly handled the ball outside the area (the lino put his flag up and then got an earfull from the crowd behind him so put it back down again), we had spineless officials who gave decisions to whichever players/crowd protested the most and loudest... it seems Mildenhall will only miss the Dover game so not that bad afterall i suppose.
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Post by faggotygas on Oct 1, 2014 14:12:12 GMT
You could even argue that the handling of the ball was not deliberately done as he just lost his positioning and thought he was still inside his area. Aye, that provision in the laws is really there for when a goalkeeper saves a shot or intercepts the ball outside of his area using his hands, not for accidently carrying the ball out of his area. |
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Post by Bridgeman on Oct 1, 2014 21:41:40 GMT
You could even argue that the handling of the ball was not deliberately done as he just lost his positioning and thought he was still inside his area. Aye, that provision in the laws is really there for when a goalkeeper saves a shot or intercepts the ball outside of his area using his hands, not for accidently carrying the ball out of his area. I think he might have accidently handled it as his momentum took him outside the area but as soon as he slid towards the goal line he took his hands off the ball so might not have had his hands on the ball at the key moment. I liked his kicking from hand and dead ball kicks they were huge and mostly down the middle of the pitch. Obviously not as imposing as Mildenhall because he is not as large or tall but overall thought he did well. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 22:13:19 GMT
it should have been a free kick to eastleigh and a yellow card for puddy and in truth the ref was rubbish to both teams! actually he was rubbish full stop
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Post by mehewmagic on Oct 2, 2014 12:11:06 GMT
Radio bristol just reported that we are NOT appealing Mildy's red card.
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Post by brizzle on Oct 2, 2014 12:18:27 GMT
Radio bristol just reported that we are NOT appealing Mildy's red card. Now that the dust has all but settled, and emotions returned to normal levels, that is what most people would have expected to happen. I wonder whether the club will continue with their threat to appeal Ollie Clarke's red card as well, or whether that will slowly slide off the list. |
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