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Post by eppinggas on Sept 7, 2014 16:09:28 GMT
I was stood just behind the goal and this is what I saw: Two players went down in the box, seemed a bit of a nothing challenge, and when they were on the floor their lad kicked out at ours. This then led to a bit of handbags between the players, some pushing and shoving, and they ended up in the net. The fans were obviously pretty incensed about the kick hence them all running to the front effing and jeffing. Then the lad who had originally kicked out gave a look to the crowd which was obviously intended to wind them up more but as far as I could tell, no gestures were made. At this point our friend in the blue shirt took it upon himself to climb onto the fence and punch the player, I couldn't tell if he made contact but was told he hit the player in the shoulder. He then went and stood at the back of the crowd whilst the stewards wandered up and down before eventually seeming to give himself up and he was led from the ground by stewards. From what I could tell the penalty wasn't actually awarded until after the punch incident. Decent summary Dan. The penalty was definitely awarded before the punch incident - the ref pointed straight to the spot even though it was never in a million years a foul. Yep - good review of it. He 'gave himself up'. Don't think he connected with any punches - but obviously no-one can condone that sort of behaviour. We were getting wound up at the constant decisions going against us before the 'penalty'. The ref had previously given 3 or 4 decisions to Braintree (ball up in the air - 50/50 decisions that all went to the home side). Think of Matt Harrold last year being constantly penalised. Yesterday it was the opposite. They were falling over and getting every decision. Unbelievably poor officials. We had been warned.
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Post by The Concept on Sept 7, 2014 19:38:59 GMT
I've seen all the videos and I've seen the pictures, and what I don't get is why this bloke has got a pen in his hand ... perhaps all he was after was an autograph? (you know I don't mean it, but it does look weird).
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Post by dan on Sept 7, 2014 19:58:06 GMT
I've seen all the videos and I've seen the pictures, and what I don't get is why this bloke has got a pen in his hand ... perhaps all he was after was an autograph? (you know I don't mean it, but it does look weird). It's an e-cigarette
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Post by Northville Blue on Sept 7, 2014 20:02:15 GMT
Best video I have seen of it. I'm actually cringing watching that. So embarrassing, what have we become, dear, dear, dear Exactly how I feel.
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Post by topgashead on Sept 7, 2014 20:26:39 GMT
I'm actually cringing watching that. So embarrassing, what have we become, dear, dear, dear Exactly how I feel. I look at the picture and can't help but feel that it sums up everything at the club right now. Shell shocked, angry, dejected and hopeless. Attachments:
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Post by moomin01 on Sept 7, 2014 20:35:14 GMT
Sad and embarrassing. That is all.
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Post by Roadman's chauffeur on Sept 7, 2014 20:42:33 GMT
Why is everyone ignoring this? What happened? It's an absolute disgrace! Can see rovers in big trouble with the fa after the end of last season to! Well there have been three pages of comments since your original post and quite frankly I have no interest in reading the pros and cons of whether a so called fan is justified in throwing a punch at a player of the opposition.It is a no brainer. Suffice it to say my son,Paul(Roadman) despite having the pleasure of standing with Christian McLean,were a couple of yards from the buffoon who chose to voice his displeasure by running the few yards to lunge at the opposing player.Had it been a normal sized ground he would probably have suffered a seizure on the way.Must be said he was a pain in the ass prior to the incident. When it comes to the bottle throwing episode, praise to the Braintree goalie who picked it up and threw it from the playing area.He could have picked it up and made more of the situation by passing it to the ref. At this stage Christian McLean remonstrated with the offender in a advising him who he was with the plea to uphold the integrity of the club he has grown to love.Christian was in fact wearing the shirt he wore with pride at Wembley in 1990. The kid shut up and probably went home to get his nappy changed
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Post by Bridgeman on Sept 7, 2014 20:50:20 GMT
Why is everyone ignoring this? What happened? It's an absolute disgrace! Can see rovers in big trouble with the fa after the end of last season to! Well there have been three pages of comments since your original post and quite frankly I have no interest in reading the pros and cons of whether a so called fan is justified in throwing a punch at a player of the opposition.It is a no brainer. Suffice it to say my son,Paul(Roadman) despite having the pleasure of standing with Christian McLean,were a couple of yards from the buffoon who chose to voice his displeasure by running the few yards to lunge at the opposing player.Had it been a normal sized ground he would probably have suffered a seizure on the way.Must be said he was a pain in the ass prior to the incident. When it comes to the bottle throwing episode, praise to the Braintree goalie who picked it up and threw it from the playing area.He could have picked it up and made more of the situation by passing it to the ref. At this stage Christian McLean remonstrated with the offender in a advising him who he was with the plea to uphold the integrity of the club he has grown to love.Christian was in fact wearing the shirt he wore with pride at Wembley in 1990. The kid shut up and probably went home to get his nappy changed .....and people moan about not being allowed to take bottles into the ground because they get thirsty, absolute idiot whoever that was, no excuse whatsoever, what's the matter with our fans, are they caught up in a time warp, dear oh dear......
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Post by DudeLebowski on Sept 7, 2014 21:48:45 GMT
Had 45mins of being stood next to 'Barry' at Altrincham! The blokes a moron & as has been said, was having litter thrown at him by fellow Gasheads during the first half! To which he obviously started offering up a fight!
The video's are grim viewing and we are a laughing stock on the pitch and off it, for a whole variety of reasons.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 7, 2014 22:04:47 GMT
Hey there is some good to come out of this.
I got one of my girlfriends' to shave her moustache off as Barry doesn't wear his anymore!
......now she is a bald c**t.
But this isn't a kev jenk thread!
Much love, mate rip kj.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 22:06:23 GMT
The video's on you tube now and really very good 'quality', unfortunately the soundtrack picks up every obscenity and insult. I know I'm probably asking too much but could the morons occasionally forget they're just a bunch of yobs and display some common decency. We've always had a troublesome element within our fan base but over the last six months it seems many of the good 'uns have walked away leaving the bad eggs as a higher percentage...with disastrous results. I dread to speculate about how the Conference will react but it won't be pretty.
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Post by Bridgeman on Sept 7, 2014 22:50:03 GMT
We as fans and players quickly need to get to grips with how the Conference works. We aren't in the Football League anymore, getting on the backs of officials (particularly the poor ones) isn't going to influence them in our favour, probably the opposite actually. We are going to have to swallow our pride and accept we are a non league team currently getting above average conference attendances, that guarentees us nothing and getting upset with the way officials perform or they way teams slow the play down is just something we are going to have to get used to. The sooner we do, the sooner we'll get out of it. We have to be cute particularly the players and learn how to make it work for ourselves.
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Post by michaelb on Sept 8, 2014 8:32:09 GMT
Not sure if this one has been posted, but this gives a good a view of what went on. Why the f was the linesman from the Braintree half of the pitch involved in the conversation re the penalty incident?i probably had the same view as him through my radio. Good point ! don't think I've ever seen a ref confer with two linesmen at the same time before ?
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Post by michaelb on Sept 8, 2014 8:33:09 GMT
I look at the picture and can't help but feel that it sums up everything at the club right now. Shell shocked, angry, dejected and hopeless. If he was an ex director he would of been banned by now
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 8, 2014 8:43:17 GMT
I don't think I have ever seen a referee confer with two linesmen and still get the decision wrong. Wouldn't have been so bad if he had been consistent but let5 their defenders get away with it. From the moment he gave an early free kick on the edge of the box to some of the ridiculous free kicks he gave in the last ten minutes he was the worst referee I have seen in many a year.In fact I would say that the opposition has got away with murder this season with the referees we have had but that is NO EXCUSE for the abject performances. Yes they say we have to respect the opposition but lets be honest Telford, Altringham and Braintree have been absolute crap and should have been easily disposed of but unfortunately the truth is ,at the moment we are even worse than the opposition.
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 8, 2014 8:48:54 GMT
Why is everyone ignoring this? What happened? It's an absolute disgrace! Can see rovers in big trouble with the fa after the end of last season to! Suffice it to say my son,Paul(Roadman) despite having the pleasure of standing with Christian McLean,were a couple of yards from the buffoon who chose to voice his displeasure by running the few yards to lunge at the opposing player. At this stage Christian McLean remonstrated with the offender in a advising him who he was with the plea to uphold the integrity of the club he has grown to love.Christian was in fact wearing the shirt he wore with pride at Wembley in 1990. that bit about CM is a very nice read. Well done him. I've seen him at games before, but didn't realise that its more than an 'occasional'
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 9:55:23 GMT
Why the f was the linesman from the Braintree half of the pitch involved in the conversation re the penalty incident?i probably had the same view as him through my radio. Good point ! don't think I've ever seen a ref confer with two linesmen at the same time before ? In one of the other videos on here, you can see the assistant referee start to come onto the pitch as the melee involves more and more players. I'd welcome that; it can give the referee support because one ref + one assistant ref is going to be vulnerable in the position he was in with a dozen seething, aggressive men accusing and counter-accusing one another. As a former qualified ref, I would have called for assistance as three heads are better than one in situations like these. Re the influence of that assistant. We have no idea whether he was ANY influence or not but even if he was a sounding board for the ref to make his decision then it has to be a bonus, surely? Although I take the point that because the decision went against your team, you may not agree. If he had come onto the pitch and suggested that maybe you were the victims of a "travesty of justice", you'd feel differently about his influence.
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Post by Igitur on Sept 8, 2014 10:06:54 GMT
Good point ! don't think I've ever seen a ref confer with two linesmen at the same time before ? In one of the other videos on here, you can see the assistant referee start to come onto the pitch as the melee involves more and more players. I'd welcome that; it can give the referee support because one ref + one assistant ref is going to be vulnerable in the position he was in with a dozen seething, aggressive men accusing and counter-accusing one another. As a former qualified ref, I would have called for assistance as three heads are better than one in situations like these. Re the influence of that assistant. We have no idea whether he was ANY influence or not but even if he was a sounding board for the ref to make his decision then it has to be a bonus, surely? Although I take the point that because the decision went against your team, you may not agree. If he had come onto the pitch and suggested that maybe you were the victims of a "travesty of justice", you'd feel differently about his influence. Unless he had something to add, which I doubt, he should have placed himself the other side of the penalty area from the ref to watch for any other incidents.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 10:51:44 GMT
In one of the other videos on here, you can see the assistant referee start to come onto the pitch as the melee involves more and more players. I'd welcome that; it can give the referee support because one ref + one assistant ref is going to be vulnerable in the position he was in with a dozen seething, aggressive men accusing and counter-accusing one another. As a former qualified ref, I would have called for assistance as three heads are better than one in situations like these. Re the influence of that assistant. We have no idea whether he was ANY influence or not but even if he was a sounding board for the ref to make his decision then it has to be a bonus, surely? Although I take the point that because the decision went against your team, you may not agree. If he had come onto the pitch and suggested that maybe you were the victims of a "travesty of justice", you'd feel differently about his influence. Unless he had something to add, which I doubt, he should have placed himself the other side of the penalty area from the ref to watch for any other incidents. Initially, he does. If you have a look at the 20-second long video that Gasman posted yesterday, he comes in from his side of the pitch then stops and positions himself with a good view of the goings on. Ref is off to his left, other assistant ref is away to the right so they have all bases covered. At the end, obviously the ref has called his two assistants together for a chat but till then, can't seem to find fault with the official's positioning.
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Post by supersteve73 on Sept 8, 2014 10:53:21 GMT
But what punishment do you give the bloke? Banning him for life is actually rewarding him.
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