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Post by lostinspace on Nov 13, 2024 9:12:48 GMT
In 2015 , Bishop Peter Ball ,85, was jailed for sexual offences against young boys over a period of time, Former A of Canterbury Lord Carey was called to resign after failing to pass on information to police in regards to the above in 1992, ( following another investigation) the new A of Canterbury was the man seeking Carey's resignation...this is the ( now resigned) Justin Welby.!! .the Religious sector.needs a complete and utter clean out of those hiding behind the " cloth"...you can ( unfortunately) see this being repeated again in another 20 or so years
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Post by baldrick on Nov 13, 2024 9:50:06 GMT
Oh my god. Just watching the Bishop of Dover on C4 news, a certain Bishop Rose actually saying on national TV that the root cause for the problems in the CoE was practitioners interpreting the Bible LITERALLY. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. So just like the loony tunes in Islam, Hinduism etc then. So basically what she is saying is that all this disgusting crime across the piece is predicated upon a few fruit cakes who wrote text between 1400 and 2000 years ago. Some of us have been saying that for years. Where does that leave the hereditary scroungers in the Royal (sic) Family who are constitutionally the "Defenders of the Faith" This faith?? I hope, personally that is the starting point of the unravelling of our current system of hierarchy. There was uproar in the Vatican last week when it was discovered that the guy who completed the very first translation of the bible got the words celibate and celebrate mixed up! Funny you should mention that, there is a school of thought that the original text mentioned 'young girl' with regards to Mary which became 'virgin' in translated versions. The whole concept of immaculate conception is based on a mistranslation. |
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Post by oldie on Nov 13, 2024 12:13:36 GMT
Oh my god. Just watching the Bishop of Dover on C4 news, a certain Bishop Rose actually saying on national TV that the root cause for the problems in the CoE was practitioners interpreting the Bible LITERALLY. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. So just like the loony tunes in Islam, Hinduism etc then. So basically what she is saying is that all this disgusting crime across the piece is predicated upon a few fruit cakes who wrote text between 1400 and 2000 years ago. Some of us have been saying that for years. Where does that leave the hereditary scroungers in the Royal (sic) Family who are constitutionally the "Defenders of the Faith" This faith?? I hope, personally that is the starting point of the unravelling of our current system of hierarchy. There was uproar in the Vatican last week when it was discovered that the guy who completed the very first translation of the bible got the words celibate and celebrate mixed up! I am sure the victims of child abuse appreciate the humour |
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 13, 2024 12:35:29 GMT
Who might be the next Archbishop of Canterbury after Justin Welby quits.?
Here are a few of the bishops in the running to become leader of the Church of England:
Dame Sarah Mullally, Bishop of London
Stephen Cottrell, Archbishop of York
Dr Guli Francis-Dehqani, Bishop of Chelmsford
Graham Usher, Bishop of Norwich
Michael Beasley, Bishop of Bath and Wells
Martyn Snow, Bishop of Leicester
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 13, 2024 12:39:35 GMT
Church of England 'not a safe institution', bishop for safeguarding tells BBC..by Adam Durbinichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1024/cpsprodpb/9477/live/9a570180-a19f-11ef-8ab9-9192db313061.jpgA day after the Archbishop of Canterbury resigned, a Church of England bishop says "in some ways, we are not a safe institution" Julie Conalty - the Bishop of Birkenhead, and deputy lead bishop for safeguarding - tells the BBC "we have this institutional problem where we are not putting victims and survivors at the centre" Justin Welby resigned yesterday, days after a damning report into abuse at Christian camps by John Smyth The review, published last week, said Welby "could and should" have reported Smyth's abuse of boys and young men to police in 2013 Welby said that, in 2013, he was told police had been notified and "believed wrongly that an appropriate resolution would follow"
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 13, 2024 14:23:08 GMT
Absolutely But for a senior cleric to look inwards and blame literal translation of the Christian text is unbelievable, in my eyes Why does anyone need an organised religion to tell them right from wrong ? surely an individual should know whats wrong and not have to think "what would jesus do here" ?... As a Christian, I actually agree, but it is a good principle to ask 'what would a good and reasonable person do'. Where I disagree is where you ask '...surely an individual should know whats wrong...'If you look at the world today, do people know the difference between right and wrong? Billionaires who spend money on politics, flying into space, gaining more wealth, etc' while people starve and they could do so much good. People who cheat on benefits, people who avoid tax by taking cash for work, people who walk by others on the street, etc What is the right thing to do. The problem you have with all the religions is that people know a little and quote a little because they have heard it but ignore the core precepts. Anyone who actually reads about the life of Christ sees that he dealt with the poor, the sick, the ostracised in society and pointed out the hypocrisies of the rich and powerful in their religiosity. No different 2,000 years ago to today. Many people have used religion since the beginning of the human race, and will continue to do so. And they should rightly be called out for it. Many of modern day institutions such as the Humanist Society have many features which have foundations in Judaeo Christian principles and from other historic faiths. understandinghumanism.org.uk/what-is-humanism/humanism-five-core-features/#:~:text=Society%20Humanists%20believe%20human%20beings%20alone%20are%20responsible,humanity%20rather%20than%20focusing%20on%20how%20we%20differ. Where they differ, in fairness, they have taken the better parts, whereas many fundamentalists in the likes of Christianity or Islam often pick and choose the bits [often the worst!] to push their own agendas and bigotry. For example if fundamental Christians choose bits about homosexuality from the Old Testament to hit out at the LGBTQ+ society they ignore the fact that Trump should have been stoned 3 times for his adultery. Like any belief process or none [cf Pol Pot], it can be used and abused to suit those who seek power and self gain. |
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Post by trymer on Nov 14, 2024 18:16:46 GMT
Why does anyone need an organised religion to tell them right from wrong ? surely an individual should know whats wrong and not have to think "what would jesus do here" ?... As a Christian, I actually agree, but it is a good principle to ask 'what would a good and reasonable person do'. Where I disagree is where you ask '...surely an individual should know whats wrong...'If you look at the world today, do people know the difference between right and wrong? Billionaires who spend money on politics, flying into space, gaining more wealth, etc' while people starve and they could do so much good. People who cheat on benefits, people who avoid tax by taking cash for work, people who walk by others on the street, etc What is the right thing to do. The problem you have with all the religions is that people know a little and quote a little because they have heard it but ignore the core precepts. Anyone who actually reads about the life of Christ sees that he dealt with the poor, the sick, the ostracised in society and pointed out the hypocrisies of the rich and powerful in their religiosity. No different 2,000 years ago to today. Many people have used religion since the beginning of the human race, and will continue to do so. And they should rightly be called out for it. Many of modern day institutions such as the Humanist Society have many features which have foundations in Judaeo Christian principles and from other historic faiths. understandinghumanism.org.uk/what-is-humanism/humanism-five-core-features/#:~:text=Society%20Humanists%20believe%20human%20beings%20alone%20are%20responsible,humanity%20rather%20than%20focusing%20on%20how%20we%20differ. Where they differ, in fairness, they have taken the better parts, whereas many fundamentalists in the likes of Christianity or Islam often pick and choose the bits [often the worst!] to push their own agendas and bigotry. For example if fundamental Christians choose bits about homosexuality from the Old Testament to hit out at the LGBTQ+ society they ignore the fact that Trump should have been stoned 3 times for his adultery. Like any belief process or none [cf Pol Pot], it can be used and abused to suit those who seek power and self gain. Someone once said about some people that i knew that they didnt know right from wrong,I said "try wronging them and see what happens then". Most people know whats wrong,but they might make the decision to do something knowing that its wrong, I will admit that I do on occasion . I agree about some christians taking bits from the bible and treating these bits as if they are the real meaning of christianity, there are some christians (in America...of course) who are very racist/white supremacist,this always made me laugh because jesus wasnt exactly white himself. |
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Post by pop up pirate on Nov 14, 2024 19:05:03 GMT
As a Christian, I actually agree, but it is a good principle to ask 'what would a good and reasonable person do'. Where I disagree is where you ask '...surely an individual should know whats wrong...'If you look at the world today, do people know the difference between right and wrong? Billionaires who spend money on politics, flying into space, gaining more wealth, etc' while people starve and they could do so much good. People who cheat on benefits, people who avoid tax by taking cash for work, people who walk by others on the street, etc What is the right thing to do. The problem you have with all the religions is that people know a little and quote a little because they have heard it but ignore the core precepts. Anyone who actually reads about the life of Christ sees that he dealt with the poor, the sick, the ostracised in society and pointed out the hypocrisies of the rich and powerful in their religiosity. No different 2,000 years ago to today. Many people have used religion since the beginning of the human race, and will continue to do so. And they should rightly be called out for it. Many of modern day institutions such as the Humanist Society have many features which have foundations in Judaeo Christian principles and from other historic faiths. understandinghumanism.org.uk/what-is-humanism/humanism-five-core-features/#:~:text=Society%20Humanists%20believe%20human%20beings%20alone%20are%20responsible,humanity%20rather%20than%20focusing%20on%20how%20we%20differ. Where they differ, in fairness, they have taken the better parts, whereas many fundamentalists in the likes of Christianity or Islam often pick and choose the bits [often the worst!] to push their own agendas and bigotry. For example if fundamental Christians choose bits about homosexuality from the Old Testament to hit out at the LGBTQ+ society they ignore the fact that Trump should have been stoned 3 times for his adultery. Like any belief process or none [cf Pol Pot], it can be used and abused to suit those who seek power and self gain. Someone once said about some people that i knew that they didnt know right from wrong,I said "try wronging them and see what happens then". Most people know whats wrong,but they might make the decision to do something knowing that its wrong, I will admit that I do on occasion . I agree about some christians taking bits from the bible and treating these bits as if they are the real meaning of christianity, there are some christians (in America...of course) who are very racist/white supremacist,this always made me laugh because jesus wasnt exactly white himself. Sounds like Trump's nominee for defence secretary |
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Post by oldie on Nov 14, 2024 20:37:21 GMT
Someone once said about some people that i knew that they didnt know right from wrong,I said "try wronging them and see what happens then". Most people know whats wrong,but they might make the decision to do something knowing that its wrong, I will admit that I do on occasion . I agree about some christians taking bits from the bible and treating these bits as if they are the real meaning of christianity, there are some christians (in America...of course) who are very racist/white supremacist,this always made me laugh because jesus wasnt exactly white himself. Sounds like Trump's nominee for defence secretary Indeed Pop Up. The Trump nominees are like the cast from the Rocky Horror Show. But some on here will continue to bow towards the alter of Donald Trump. |
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Post by pop up pirate on Nov 14, 2024 21:28:14 GMT
Sounds like Trump's nominee for defence secretary Indeed Pop Up. The Trump nominees are like the cast from the Rocky Horror Show. But some on here will continue to bow towards the alter of Donald Trump. It's alright, he's dismantling the deep state, it'll be a wild ride 😀 |
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Post by oldie on Nov 14, 2024 21:35:09 GMT
Indeed Pop Up. The Trump nominees are like the cast from the Rocky Horror Show. But some on here will continue to bow towards the alter of Donald Trump. It's alright, he's dismantling the deep state, it'll be a wild ride 😀 😂😂 |
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