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Post by baldrick on Nov 6, 2024 8:50:13 GMT
Once Labour stop sulking,hopefully they'll give it their all to negotiate a genuine free trade deal with with the USA. Maybe our Nige can help out. That's a myth, was never going to happen and certainly won't now. |
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Post by baldrick on Nov 6, 2024 8:52:24 GMT
Lammy should now be given a couple of days to resign and if he does'nt,he must be sacked. He's an embarrassment to the UK. Not my favourite politician but I'd rather the British PM chose the British Foreign Secretary than we pander to whomever is the incumbent of the White House. |
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Post by baselswh on Nov 6, 2024 8:54:29 GMT
Once Labour stop sulking,hopefully they'll give it their all to negotiate a genuine free trade deal with with the USA. Maybe our Nige can help out. That's a myth, was never going to happen and certainly won't now. Trump has spoken of it.That's not a myth. Farage might be able to make up the ground the bumbling 2TK and asshole Lammy have lost. It's a shame we have this Government,but a FTD is not impossible. |
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Post by baldrick on Nov 6, 2024 8:56:01 GMT
That's a myth, was never going to happen and certainly won't now. Trump has spoken of it.That's not a myth. Farage might be able to make up the ground the bumbling 2TK and asshole Lammy have lost. It's a shame we have this Government,but a FTD is not impossible. No, it'll be one sided. Boris couldn't get one last time. |
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Post by baselswh on Nov 6, 2024 8:56:04 GMT
Lammy should now be given a couple of days to resign and if he does'nt,he must be sacked. He's an embarrassment to the UK. Not my favourite politician but I'd rather the British PM chose the British Foreign Secretary than we pander to whomever is the incumbent of the White House. Lammy is a mistake,2TK knows it and once it reflects even more badly on him as it already has,Lammy will walk. |
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Post by francegas on Nov 6, 2024 18:45:49 GMT
For a start I would reduce the number of Universities in the UK. For comparison the UK has around 166 Universities compared with 72 in France. Tuition fees in France range between €170 and €650 PA compared with over £9500PA in the UK. I would then get rid of the ridiculous courses available like Circus studies, Flower arranging, knitting etc and put focus on the remaining universities and offer worthwhile degrees. You support state subsidies for higher education? Wish you'd been in the coalition government when they tripled tuition fees from £3,000 to £9,000 in 2012. You might have been able to stop it and not get all het up now about Labour's £285 increase. Where am I getting all het up with Labours £285 increase? I didn't even mention it. Oldie put it out there what would you do with universities becoming/are financially unviable so I answered it. But hey as you bought it up labour have now increased University Tuition Fees to record levels when they were going to abolish the fees you really couldn't make it up. In respect of State Subsidies for higher education a difficult one. I'm fully aware France subsidise Tuition fees by some 70% (which still highlights how much cheaper University courses are in France if 30% of some courses can be less than €200). I don't agree with blanket state subsidies for all courses. Would you be happy with your taxes funding someone doing a University course on flower arranging, knitting, surfing etc and all the other useless degree courses available. However I have no objection if as example a university course of medicine is subsidised as these people are the surgeons, oncologists consultants etc of the future. |
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Post by aghast on Nov 6, 2024 19:50:40 GMT
You support state subsidies for higher education? Wish you'd been in the coalition government when they tripled tuition fees from £3,000 to £9,000 in 2012. You might have been able to stop it and not get all het up now about Labour's £285 increase. Where am I getting all het up with Labours £285 increase? I didn't even mention it. Oldie put it out there what would you do with universities becoming/are financially unviable so I answered it. But hey as you bought it up labour have now increased University Tuition Fees to record levels when they were going to abolish the fees you really couldn't make it up. In respect of State Subsidies for higher education a difficult one. I'm fully aware France subsidise Tuition fees by some 70% (which still highlights how much cheaper University courses are in France if 30% of some courses can be less than €200). I don't agree with blanket state subsidies for all courses. Would you be happy with your taxes funding someone doing a University course on flower arranging, knitting, surfing etc and all the other useless degree courses available. However I have no objection if as example a university course of medicine is subsidised as these people are the surgeons, oncologists consultants etc of the future. Of course you can take flower arranging and medicine as extreme examples but there is a whole host of degrees in the middle. In fact the vast majority come in that grey area between frivolous and rigorous. Most of the BA degrees could be deemed unnecessary and unworthy of support, should you choose to look at it from a certain viewpoint. From what some might call suspect courses like photography and journalism through to English and Fine Art. Difficult to know when to wield the axe. I'd prefer universities to be subject to minimum academic and tuition standards, and subject to regular review and let them offer degrees in whatever subjects they choose. If the standards slip their right to offer degrees will be revoked. Which is the situation now. I'm not aware of any degrees in flower arranging and knitting but if you say they are out there I'll respect your word on it. |
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Post by oldie on Nov 6, 2024 20:25:30 GMT
The classic error in judging tertiary education is to be overly fixated by the course title.
A good course will teach you people to think, to apply critical thinking.
Both of my sons went to uni and the key elements I noticed in them as they went through their degree courses was the change in them when it came to critical thinking.
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Post by baselswh on Nov 7, 2024 6:51:14 GMT
Can Labour put national interest first and ask Farage to help out in negotiating deals with Trump?
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Post by baselswh on Nov 7, 2024 7:13:06 GMT
How on earth can David Lammy be involved with negotiations with Trump?
His "scatological" insults towards the President Elect ( President elect President? ) show he is disgusted by Trump.
Lammy the "Mastermind" is clearly not Foreign Secretary class.
The mans an embarrassment to the UK,even more than the woke Labour Party.
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Post by francegas on Nov 7, 2024 12:43:42 GMT
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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 7, 2024 12:45:47 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05z692p3z7o"Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has tightened the rules on ministers accepting gifts and hospitality, after a row over senior Labour figures receiving freebies. Ministers will not be banned from accepting gifts but the ministerial code has been updated to require them to consider the "need to maintain the public's confidence in the standards of propriety" when deciding whether to do so.
A register of gifts received by ministers will now also be published monthly, rather than quarterly." Wow, is that what they call "tightened the rules"? "Meanwhile, the prime minister's independent adviser on ministerial standards, Sir Laurie Magnus, will now have the power to launch investigations into alleged breaches of the code without seeking the consent of the prime minister. Previously the PM was able to veto investigations by the adviser. The change was promised in Labour's election manifesto. The ministerial code sets out the standards that ministers are expected to uphold. While Sir Laurie advises the prime minister on adherence to the code, Sir Keir has the final decision on whether there has been a breach and what sanctions, if any, are required."Amazing. The final decision, the 'judge' himself, is the very same person who has taken more freebies than any other Member of Parliament! This 'news' was released yesterday when the news was full of Trump stuff. What a bunch of charlatans.
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Post by baldrick on Nov 7, 2024 12:50:53 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05z692p3z7o"Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has tightened the rules on ministers accepting gifts and hospitality, after a row over senior Labour figures receiving freebies. Ministers will not be banned from accepting gifts but the ministerial code has been updated to require them to consider the "need to maintain the public's confidence in the standards of propriety" when deciding whether to do so.
A register of gifts received by ministers will now also be published monthly, rather than quarterly." Wow, is that what they call "tightened the rules"? "Meanwhile, the prime minister's independent adviser on ministerial standards, Sir Laurie Magnus, will now have the power to launch investigations into alleged breaches of the code without seeking the consent of the prime minister. Previously the PM was able to veto investigations by the adviser. The change was promised in Labour's election manifesto. The ministerial code sets out the standards that ministers are expected to uphold. While Sir Laurie advises the prime minister on adherence to the code, Sir Keir has the final decision on whether there has been a breach and what sanctions, if any, are required."Amazing. The final decision, the 'judge' himself, is the very same person who has taken more freebies than any other Member of Parliament! This 'news' was released yesterday when the news was full of Trump stuff. What a bunch of charlatans. The PM has always been the final arbiter, Johnson was too. |
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Post by baselswh on Nov 7, 2024 12:52:32 GMT
Reform Party have Lawyers waiting in the wings if our authorities continue to run scared of Islam. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 7, 2024 13:46:07 GMT
Reform Party have Lawyers waiting in the wings if our authorities continue to run scared of Islam. Richard Tice is always threatening to sue people who disagree with him. Today he has sued no one. |
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Post by aghast on Nov 7, 2024 19:35:30 GMT
I can just see what's coming next. Every piece of good news about the economy, inflation and jobs will be credited to the Trump effect and not the Labour government. 🙄
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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 7, 2024 20:02:12 GMT
I can just see what's coming next. Every piece of good news about the economy, inflation and jobs will be credited to the Trump effect and not the Labour government. 🙄 So far I have not seen a single policy decision by Labour that will improve the economy, inflation or jobs. Do us a favour, if you know of any can you point them out? |
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Post by Icegas on Nov 7, 2024 20:13:18 GMT
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Post by aghast on Nov 7, 2024 20:57:33 GMT
I can just see what's coming next. Every piece of good news about the economy, inflation and jobs will be credited to the Trump effect and not the Labour government. 🙄 So far I have not seen a single policy decision by Labour that will improve the economy, inflation or jobs. Do us a favour, if you know of any can you point them out? Don't worry I certainly will 👍 |
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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 8, 2024 7:00:29 GMT
So far I have not seen a single policy decision by Labour that will improve the economy, inflation or jobs. Do us a favour, if you know of any can you point them out? Don't worry I certainly will 👍 So, none yet then. |
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