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Post by baldrick on Oct 5, 2024 8:47:34 GMT
Day of shame for naive Labour as it gives away strategically vital Chagos Islands and leaves taxpayers with endless bill What now for the Falklands? Will Labour’s puerile embarrassment over 'wrongs of the past' trump our sovereignty there too? Yep , commies bringing shame on this country now 🙄🙄 Stop being misinformed, nothing in your post is factual. By the way, I'll just mention Nicholas Ridley.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 5, 2024 8:49:28 GMT
Day of shame for naive Labour as it gives away strategically vital Chagos Islands and leaves taxpayers with endless bill What now for the Falklands? Will Labour’s puerile embarrassment over 'wrongs of the past' trump our sovereignty there too? Yep , commies bringing shame on this country now 🙄🙄 Stop being misinformed, nothing in your post is factual. By the way, I'll just mention Nicholas Ridley. Ltd shows the concerns of millions of Britons.
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Post by trymer on Oct 5, 2024 8:57:25 GMT
Apart from her character and appearance ? well thats what I am talking about. How do you know 'that she triggers older men' ?....why would she trigger older men ? thats just nuts, you are making things up to suit your argument now. Just listening to some of the Tories on television, in Parliament in response to her challenges, interviews, the press attacks on her personally [not just her politics] etc Looking at opinions on Twitter, Threads, and some Gasheads on Facebook sadly, she really does bring out the worst in some people, nearly all men. So the words you use about her are not about her sexual activities or being a prostitute; perhaps then choose words which suit. A guy on Twitter once called me a nonce because I challenged him on a view point. When I pointed out its meaning, he said that wasn't what he meant but I was still a nonce.....! Words can't break bones but they have meaning which can be offensive. 'the Tories'....I suppose that I should have known that you would mention 'the Tories' shouldnt I ?...honestly Cheshire you are showing obsessive behaviour with these posts,dont take my word for it please have a word with someone. Over the years words take on different meanings,'brass' or 'old brass' may have originally referred to a prostitute but now it just means a loose (usually gobby) woman,same as old boiler,skank,trollop,mouthy slag. Someone recently referred to Oldie as a 'berk' maybe they didnt know the original meaning of that word although on second thought maybe they did and thought it was appropriate (I wont comment on that). I suppose that if you want to be pedantic about what I call Rayner (a woman who apparently refers to her 'ginger growler'...puke) then I would call her a rough old munter and mutton dressed as lamb, can you argue against those descriptions. btw you say that its men who dislike Rayner,I asked 2 women what they thought of Rayner,one said that she couldnt stand her (or any other politician) the other one said she thought that Rayner looks like 'a nasty vicious woman' and that she could easily imagine Rayner 'smashing a bottle into someones face during a fight' !....
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Post by trymer on Oct 5, 2024 9:01:08 GMT
Labour donor ‘expects an honour but doesn’t want to share it with me’, claims estranged wife Dale Vince allegedly rushing through divorce before receiving peerage from Sir Keir Starmer Honestly/ integrity, more jobs for the boys , tories got belters for this crap Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.This saying stereotypes women as over-sensitive and insinuates that they are unable to control their emotions, come on Cheshire who are you going to quote next Chubby Brown ?...
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Post by trymer on Oct 5, 2024 9:09:11 GMT
Apart from her character and appearance ? well thats what I am talking about. How do you know 'that she triggers older men' ?....why would she trigger older men ? thats just nuts, you are making things up to suit your argument now. Just listening to some of the Tories on television, in Parliament in response to her challenges, interviews, the press attacks on her personally [not just her politics] etc Looking at opinions on Twitter, Threads, and some Gasheads on Facebook sadly, she really does bring out the worst in some people, nearly all men. I havent had a television for nearly 20 years,i dont do Twitter or post on FB groups. The main thing that I have learned by being on this forum is just how much time some people spend online posting on these forums etc and trawling the internet for links to their posts, I like to take the positive from any situation (including negative situations) and I have started to monitor how much time that i spend on here and online in general and cutting back accordingly.
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Post by baldrick on Oct 5, 2024 9:19:01 GMT
Stop being misinformed, nothing in your post is factual. By the way, I'll just mention Nicholas Ridley. Ltd shows the concerns of millions of Britons. No he doesn't.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 5, 2024 9:41:16 GMT
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. This saying stereotypes women as over-sensitive and insinuates that they are unable to control their emotions, come on Cheshire who are you going to quote next Chubby Brown ?... No, overheard a show he did in Tenerife and cannot stand his sense of humour.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 5, 2024 9:45:07 GMT
Just listening to some of the Tories on television, in Parliament in response to her challenges, interviews, the press attacks on her personally [not just her politics] etc Looking at opinions on Twitter, Threads, and some Gasheads on Facebook sadly, she really does bring out the worst in some people, nearly all men. So the words you use about her are not about her sexual activities or being a prostitute; perhaps then choose words which suit. A guy on Twitter once called me a nonce because I challenged him on a view point. When I pointed out its meaning, he said that wasn't what he meant but I was still a nonce.....! Words can't break bones but they have meaning which can be offensive. 'the Tories'....I suppose that I should have known that you would mention 'the Tories' shouldnt I ?...honestly Cheshire you are showing obsessive behaviour with these posts,dont take my word for it please have a word with someone. You asked me how I take the view that she triggers older men and I answered, would you rather that I lied or made something up. It is from observation and the Tories are the primary case but she also triggers the gentlemen of the Reform Party Ltd as well..... And numerous postings on Facebook by our own supporters, does that help.... From your comment I presume, like others have indicated, we are not allowed to mention the Tories and a line has been drawn under their past and current activities? All of their past and current sins are forgiven.....
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 5, 2024 9:52:25 GMT
Just listening to some of the Tories on television, in Parliament in response to her challenges, interviews, the press attacks on her personally [not just her politics] etc Looking at opinions on Twitter, Threads, and some Gasheads on Facebook sadly, she really does bring out the worst in some people, nearly all men. I havent had a television for nearly 20 years,i dont do Twitter or post on FB groups. The main thing that I have learned by being on this forum is just how much time some people spend online posting on these forums etc and trawling the internet for links to their posts, I like to take the positive from any situation (including negative situations) and I have started to monitor how much time that i spend on here and online in general and cutting back accordingly. If I am going to make a comment I try to make sure it is fact based, hence I put links up. If it's purely about opinion rather than fact then really its pointless debating as people can make up any old stuff, as some have in the past. But then as historians have said we are now in the post truth and programmes on television and articles in the media balance facts and experts against opinionated people often spouting something incorrect but present to add 'balance'. Well done on maintaining a healthy lifestyle balance, it is important. I just have more time on my hands at present and that may soon change.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 5, 2024 9:56:45 GMT
Starmer 'pleased' assisted dying vote will take place He’s pleased to see people die , how low will this lot stoop to balance the books He hasn't said which way he will vote. A majority of MPs are in favour of a vote and it will affect a very small number of people. Forgotten Covid and Johnson - 'Let the bodies pile high....'
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 5, 2024 10:05:46 GMT
You believe what you want. You still haven't responded on your hero Nige and his £30k flights. Oh of course we can believe everything the sainted Nige says, can't we...... 😂😂😂😂so it’s there , 0r you wouldn’t be saying Believe what you want would you !! I’ve no doubt you don’t believe it as you believe the commies are doing a good job 😂😂. At least now you’ll not get away with trying to claim my post arnt true will you , need another form of trying to discredit me !! No idea what your on about with nige , post it up again and I’ll have a look , but you’re memory maybe failing you but you and your commie mates told us it was I revelant what the commies did when in opposition , you can only judge them when there in charge , we are , it’s a absolute s**t show , when / if reform get in I will judge them exactly the same , but there in opposition like the tories / ld / greens so I’ll judge the party in goverment Still using the term commies after complaining about my one name..... Not sure which of my mates is 'commie' and how do you know anything about my mates? Nigel Farage 3. Gifts, benefits and hospitality from UK sources Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: A finalist’s ticket to the 2023 British Journalism Awards where I was nominated for ‘Scoop of the Year.’, value £475
Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: Two Ringside seats for Derek Chisora Vs Joe Joyce, value £2,000
Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: A finalist’s ticket to the 2024 TRIC Awards where I was nominated and won News Presenter of the Year, value £445
4. Visits outside the UK Name of donor: Mr Christopher Harborne Estimate of the probable value (or amount of any donation): Flights and accommodation for me and one staffer, value £32,836
Destination of visit: United States Purpose of visit: To support a friend who was almost killed and to represent Clacton on the world stage.
Name of donor: George Cottrell Estimate of the probable value (or amount of any donation): Return travel and accommodation for Mr Farage and one staffer and security provision, value £9,253.60 Destination of visit: Belgium
Purpose of visit: To speak at a conference - [he lives in Belgium]
Interesting enough its been pointed out that Lee Anderson hasn't declared the seats and hospitality he gets free at Notts County and Notts Forest.
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 5, 2024 22:53:31 GMT
Falklands hero Simon Weston slams 'weak' Keir Starmer on Chagos..by Glen Owen and Caroline Graham
i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/05/21/90501737-13928337-image-a-15_1728160769600.jpg Falklands veteran Simon Weston branded the Prime Minister 'weak' following Labour's surrender of the Chagos IslandsCommons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle is under pressure to call an emergency debate tomorrow on Labour’s surrender of the Chagos Islands after Nigel Farage complained that the ‘damaging capitulation’ occurred while MPs were away from Westminster. The Reform UK leader’s comments came as Falklands war hero Simon Weston condemned Sir Keir Starmer for being ‘weak’ amid fears that other British Overseas Territories could be given away. Diplomatic sources claim that the Prime Minister’s humiliating handover of the Indian Ocean archipelago to Mauritius, a close ally of China, had been rushed through before a potential Donald Trump victory in next month’s US Presidential election. Trump’s allies have complained that the deal represents a strategic coup for Beijing. The handover – the plans for which were first revealed in The Mail on Sunday last year – has triggered fresh speculation about the future of the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar after the Prime Minister refused to guarantee that he would not sign them away too. Last night, Mr Weston, the former Welsh Guardsman who suffered catastrophic burn injuries when the Sir Galahad was bombed during the 1982 Falklands War, said: ‘The handing back of the Chagos Islands is a serious misstep because it shows weakness to the rest of the world. ‘The Prime Minister needs to come out now and show strength and leadership and say that the sovereignty of the Falklands is not on the table. ‘He has been given opportunities to speak out in defence of the Falklands but has chosen not to. That shows weakness. That has given the opportunity for the Argentinians to sow discord.’ Meanwhile, Mr Farage – in a letter sent this weekend to Foreign Secretary David Lammy and copied to Sir Lindsay – has demanded a debate on the Chagos deal. He wrote: ‘The strategic importance of the Chagos Islands to our nation and to our most important ally, America, is well known... ‘The future of the Chagos Islands was announced when the House was not sitting, meaning that members of all parties remain in the dark about so many aspects of this decision. This has led to speculation about the future of the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/05/21/90501703-13928337-image-a-16_1728160774366.jpgSources claim that the Prime Minister’s humiliating handover of the Indian Ocean archipelago to Mauritius was rushed through before a potential Trump victory next month‘It is vital that the House is given an opportunity to scrutinise the origins of the Chagos Islands deal and to debate its many implications... given the seriousness of the situation, a vote must then take place.’ Mr Farage will also submit an Urgent Question on Monday concerning the protection of British sovereignty around the world. The Mail on Sunday revealed in May last year that the White House had expressed ‘serious concerns’ about plans to surrender the Chagos, given that the islands host the highly sensitive Anglo-American military base on Diego Garcia, known as ‘the unsinkable aircraft carrier in Indian Ocean’. The British base, which is leased to the US Navy, is home to 1,700 military personnel and includes port facilities, an airstrip, a support structure for submarine fleets, a sophisticated radar centre and US Space Operations Command. The Pentagon says Beijing is looking for a similar military foothold in the region and is possibly eyeing Diego Garcia. US President Joe Biden publicly welcomed the ‘historic agreement’, saying it secured the future of a key military base which ‘plays a vital role in national, regional and global security’. Norma Edwards said: ‘The previous Conservative governments were unequivocal in their support of the islands remaining British. ‘The news about Labour handing back the Chagos Islands is unsettling and upsetting but the Chagos Islands always belonged to Mauritius so it is a very different situation to the Falklands which have always been British. ‘Starmer needs to come out and issue a strong statement that the Falkland Islands are non-negotiable.’ Mr Weston, after a meeting with other Welsh Guards, added: ‘The people of the Falklands deserve to sleep soundly in their beds tonight, tomorrow and forever. ‘The islanders need certainty and the only way you get certainty is by strong and clear leadership and we are not seeing that. ‘The Argentines are trying all sorts of political skulduggery. The Falkland Islands are ours and always have been. That is a matter of historical fact. ‘The Falkland islanders and all our other dependent territories like Gibraltar need to know there is no wavering in our support.’ The row has also dealt a blow to the leadership ambitions of James Cleverly, who condemned the move last week as ‘weak, weak, weak’, only for it to emerge he had opened talks over the Chagos Islands soon after taking over the Foreign Office in November 2022. Boris Johnson wrote in yesterday’s Daily Mail: ‘This is what happens when you are governed not by Blairites – as [Labour] pretended to be at the election – but by Leftie ideologues, people who secretly or openly hate such vital concepts as US hegemony, “Western values”, Nato and an independent British nuclear deterrent.’ i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/05/20/90500549-13928337-image-a-5_1728158008853.jpg Nigel Farage called on the Speaker, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, to grant an emergency debate on the future of the Chagos islands
i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/05/20/90500419-13928337-image-a-4_1728157851047.jpg A letter from Mr Farage to Foreign Secretary David Lammy, in which the Reform UK leader called the decision a 'damaging capitulation'
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Post by francegas on Oct 6, 2024 11:59:03 GMT
Sue Gray has quit as Keir Starmers Chief of Staff. 😂😂
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Post by lostinspace on Oct 6, 2024 14:00:54 GMT
Sue Gray has quit as Keir Starmers Chief of Staff. 😂😂 From one pot to another, maybe not quite as hot...Only to represent him as a 'Regional Envoy ' what is that supposed to entail
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Post by baselswh on Oct 6, 2024 14:30:10 GMT
Sue Gray has quit as Keir Starmers Chief of Staff. 😂😂 From one pot to another, maybe not quite as hot...Only to represent him as a 'Regional Envoy ' what is that supposed to entail Going to Council Meetings at eg Rochdale or Rotherham and try to bully them.
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 6, 2024 14:52:20 GMT
Sue Gray has quit as Keir Starmers Chief of Staff. 😂😂 I don't think she quit. More like moved aside into a non-job. Does she keep the same salary? I'm pretty sure more will come out about this.
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 6, 2024 16:18:40 GMT
This must be a record for a new government. The infighting has already started. Poor ole free gear Keir. In a week he has lost 6k, an MP, his Chief of Staff and some islands in the Pacific!
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Post by pop up pirate on Oct 6, 2024 19:09:46 GMT
Maybe the owners could donate a season ticket? #TopTierKeir
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Post by baldrick on Oct 6, 2024 19:13:43 GMT
Maybe the owners could donate a season ticket? #TopTierKeir Tom Gorringe to be the new Chief of Staff??
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Post by pop up pirate on Oct 6, 2024 19:15:32 GMT
Maybe the owners could donate a season ticket? #TopTierKeir Tom Gorringe to be the new Chief of Staff?? Wael should stand for Mayor 😃
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