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Post by oldie on Aug 20, 2024 11:01:50 GMT
Rich people making huge donations to Labour...who would have thought itđ
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 20, 2024 11:35:55 GMT
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 20, 2024 12:26:48 GMT
Another dodgy appointment.....
"Yet another politicised civil service appointment appears to be on the cards for the government. Labour Together campaigner Jess Sargeant is rumoured to have been appointed to a top civil service role. Labour is already under serious fire for hiring its own donors and ex-Labour Together staff to top civil service positions in blatant cronyismâŚ
Sargeant, a former constitution wonk at the Institute for (Big) Government-turned-Starmerite activist, joined Labour Together to direct its constitutional work programme in December last year and began working closely with shadow ministers. Now she is said to be starting work as the Deputy Director of the Cabinet Officeâs Propriety and Constitution Group. Sue Grayâs old team, and the one â Guido kids you not â responsible for âensuring the highest standards of propriety and ethics across all government departmentsââŚ
The group supports departments to uphold standards and, surprise surprise â manages Whitehallâs relations with the Civil Service Commission, which manages, among other things, the impartiality of civil service jobs. Is Labour looking to install a Starmer loyalist at the heart of the civil service machine?
Guido approached the Cabinet Office, who said âWeâll come back to youâ. Eight hours later the standard Labour Party line when asked about its cronyistic appointments was issued: âWe do not comment on individuals.â Jessâ soon-to-be senior Darren Tierney declined to deny the appointment when asked, directing Guido with a sigh instead to the press officeâŚ
A Deputy Director with such a broad scope will have access to reams of sensitive information and will get live updates on ethical breaches throughout government. Sargeant has deleted her LinkedIn profile and taken her Twitter private â a typical sign of an impending slide into government. Has the Civil Service Commission been made aware of Sargeantâs recent Labour Party activism as a Starmtrooper member of the Labour Together cadre? "
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Post by oldie on Aug 20, 2024 12:42:57 GMT
Another dodgy appointment.....  "Yet another politicised civil service appointment appears to be on the cards for the government. Labour Together campaigner Jess Sargeant is rumoured to have been appointed to a top civil service role. Labour is already under serious fire for hiring its own donors and ex-Labour Together staff to top civil service positions in blatant cronyism⌠Sargeant, a former constitution wonk at the Institute for (Big) Government-turned-Starmerite activist, joined Labour Together to direct its constitutional work programme in December last year and began working closely with shadow ministers. Now she is said to be starting work as the Deputy Director of the Cabinet Officeâs Propriety and Constitution Group. Sue Grayâs old team, and the one â Guido kids you not â responsible for âensuring the highest standards of propriety and ethics across all government departmentsâ⌠The group supports departments to uphold standards and, surprise surprise â manages Whitehallâs relations with the Civil Service Commission, which manages, among other things, the impartiality of civil service jobs. Is Labour looking to install a Starmer loyalist at the heart of the civil service machine? Guido approached the Cabinet Office, who said âWeâll come back to youâ. Eight hours later the standard Labour Party line when asked about its cronyistic appointments was issued: âWe do not comment on individuals.â Jessâ soon-to-be senior Darren Tierney declined to deny the appointment when asked, directing Guido with a sigh instead to the press office⌠A Deputy Director with such a broad scope will have access to reams of sensitive information and will get live updates on ethical breaches throughout government. Sargeant has deleted her LinkedIn profile and taken her Twitter private â a typical sign of an impending slide into government. Has the Civil Service Commission been made aware of Sargeantâs recent Labour Party activism as a Starmtrooper member of the Labour Together cadre? " đđđ
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 20, 2024 12:48:13 GMT
Another dodgy appointment..... "Yet another politicised civil service appointment appears to be on the cards for the government. Labour Together campaigner Jess Sargeant is rumoured to have been appointed to a top civil service role. Labour is already under serious fire for hiring its own donors and ex-Labour Together staff to top civil service positions in blatant cronyism⌠Sargeant, a former constitution wonk at the Institute for (Big) Government-turned-Starmerite activist, joined Labour Together to direct its constitutional work programme in December last year and began working closely with shadow ministers. Now she is said to be starting work as the Deputy Director of the Cabinet Officeâs Propriety and Constitution Group. Sue Grayâs old team, and the one â Guido kids you not â responsible for âensuring the highest standards of propriety and ethics across all government departmentsâ⌠The group supports departments to uphold standards and, surprise surprise â manages Whitehallâs relations with the Civil Service Commission, which manages, among other things, the impartiality of civil service jobs. Is Labour looking to install a Starmer loyalist at the heart of the civil service machine? Guido approached the Cabinet Office, who said âWeâll come back to youâ. Eight hours later the standard Labour Party line when asked about its cronyistic appointments was issued: âWe do not comment on individuals.â Jessâ soon-to-be senior Darren Tierney declined to deny the appointment when asked, directing Guido with a sigh instead to the press office⌠A Deputy Director with such a broad scope will have access to reams of sensitive information and will get live updates on ethical breaches throughout government. Sargeant has deleted her LinkedIn profile and taken her Twitter private â a typical sign of an impending slide into government. Has the Civil Service Commission been made aware of Sargeantâs recent Labour Party activism as a Starmtrooper member of the Labour Together cadre? " Look at the language used and then try and convince me again that Guido is non partisan..... The abyss of silence over Tory appointments, donations, contracts for donors and family and then this hypocrisy. Happy days!
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Post by oldie on Aug 20, 2024 12:59:18 GMT
Another dodgy appointment.....  "Yet another politicised civil service appointment appears to be on the cards for the government. Labour Together campaigner Jess Sargeant is rumoured to have been appointed to a top civil service role. Labour is already under serious fire for hiring its own donors and ex-Labour Together staff to top civil service positions in blatant cronyism⌠Sargeant, a former constitution wonk at the Institute for (Big) Government-turned-Starmerite activist, joined Labour Together to direct its constitutional work programme in December last year and began working closely with shadow ministers. Now she is said to be starting work as the Deputy Director of the Cabinet Officeâs Propriety and Constitution Group. Sue Grayâs old team, and the one â Guido kids you not â responsible for âensuring the highest standards of propriety and ethics across all government departmentsâ⌠The group supports departments to uphold standards and, surprise surprise â manages Whitehallâs relations with the Civil Service Commission, which manages, among other things, the impartiality of civil service jobs. Is Labour looking to install a Starmer loyalist at the heart of the civil service machine? Guido approached the Cabinet Office, who said âWeâll come back to youâ. Eight hours later the standard Labour Party line when asked about its cronyistic appointments was issued: âWe do not comment on individuals.â Jessâ soon-to-be senior Darren Tierney declined to deny the appointment when asked, directing Guido with a sigh instead to the press office⌠A Deputy Director with such a broad scope will have access to reams of sensitive information and will get live updates on ethical breaches throughout government. Sargeant has deleted her LinkedIn profile and taken her Twitter private â a typical sign of an impending slide into government. Has the Civil Service Commission been made aware of Sargeantâs recent Labour Party activism as a Starmtrooper member of the Labour Together cadre? " Look at the language used and then try and convince me again that Guido is non partisan..... The abyss of silence over Tory appointments, donations, contracts for donors and family and then this hypocrisy. Happy days! That's why I laughed Cheshire.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 22, 2024 6:32:13 GMT
Apparently Netanyahu completely snubbed David Lammy recently.
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Post by oldie on Aug 22, 2024 8:13:57 GMT
Apparently Netanyahu completely snubbed David Lammy recently. Apparently Lammy is notorious for not buying a round đ
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Post by oldie on Aug 22, 2024 8:33:49 GMT
Interesting piece in City AM Anyone recognise certain political leaders in this assertion? "The same politicians and commentators who cosplay as working class when itâs a convenient excuse for stirring up hate against Muslims seem appalled at working class people advocating for and obtaining better pay." Made me smile Full article here www.cityam.com/enough-with-the-hysteria-nhs-pay-rises-make-us-all-richer/
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Post by trymer on Aug 25, 2024 7:09:44 GMT
Starmer announcing that 'things are going to get worse' (unless you're a train driver or an MP with a second house) most of us knew this when Labour got into power,how much worse than we predicted will it get ?
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Post by aghast on Aug 25, 2024 16:56:11 GMT
I think it took about 10 years before Tory sympathisers finally conceded that they need to accept some responsibility for events, and it was no longer plausible to blame Gordon Brown for everything forever.
Very different now of course. Regardless of the financial black hole and understating of public spending that Starmer inherited, it doesn't matter.
He's to blame and to blame from day 1.
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 25, 2024 18:50:49 GMT
I think it took about 10 years before Tory sympathisers finally conceded that they need to accept some responsibility for events, and it was no longer plausible to blame Gordon Brown for everything forever. Very different now of course. Regardless of the financial black hole and understating of public spending that Starmer inherited, it doesn't matter. He's to blame and to blame from day 1. He's to blame for the riots too, and that white men went to prison for throwing bricks at the police and setting fires. Seems to always be the case when the right lose an election, will be worse if Trump loses too.
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 25, 2024 18:51:28 GMT
Isn't there always a ' black hole' no matter what the state of affairs... when Labour was routed last time the so called " you are looking at bare cupboards" or words to that effect note left by the departing party....this i recall was scoffed at as merely having a laugh by someone on here...
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Post by trymer on Aug 25, 2024 19:11:51 GMT
Isn't there always a ' black hole' no matter what the state of affairs... when Labour was routed last time the so called " you are looking at bare cupboards" or words to that effect note left by the departing party....this i recall was scoffed at as merely having a laugh by someone on here... No there isnt always a black hole inherited,if we are being fair the Blair govt inherited a stable economy but after a few years it started to get worse and has continued to get worse year by year. A pity that Starmer wasnt honest enough to say BEFORE the election that things were going to get worse instead of waiting until he got into power,its going to get worse alright but I dont believe that it will ever get better.
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Post by oldie on Aug 25, 2024 19:34:49 GMT
Isn't there always a ' black hole' no matter what the state of affairs... when Labour was routed last time the so called " you are looking at bare cupboards" or words to that effect note left by the departing party....this i recall was scoffed at as merely having a laugh by someone on here... No there isnt always a black hole inherited,if we are being fair the Blair govt inherited a stable economy but after a few years it started to get worse and has continued to get worse year by year. A pity that Starmer wasnt honest enough to say BEFORE the election that things were going to get worse instead of waiting until he got into power,its going to get worse alright but I dont believe that it will ever get better. Well, the reality was "The expansion of property and the public sector both actually held back measured aggregate productivity. The financial sector contributed only about 0.4% of the 2.8% annual growth in the UK market economy between 1997 and 2007." Source? The London School of Economics acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:EU:530db296-10a9-47a3-985c-779aff548bfb
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Post by trymer on Aug 25, 2024 19:39:21 GMT
No there isnt always a black hole inherited,if we are being fair the Blair govt inherited a stable economy but after a few years it started to get worse and has continued to get worse year by year. A pity that Starmer wasnt honest enough to say BEFORE the election that things were going to get worse instead of waiting until he got into power,its going to get worse alright but I dont believe that it will ever get better. Well, the reality was "The expansion of property and the public sector both actually held back measured aggregate productivity. The financial sector contributed only about 0.4% of the 2.8% annual growth in the UK market economy between 1997 and 2007." Source? The London School of Economics acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:EU:530db296-10a9-47a3-985c-779aff548bfbDid Labour inherit a black hole from the Major govt ?
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Post by oldie on Aug 25, 2024 20:03:06 GMT
Well, the reality was "The expansion of property and the public sector both actually held back measured aggregate productivity. The financial sector contributed only about 0.4% of the 2.8% annual growth in the UK market economy between 1997 and 2007." Source? The London School of Economics acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:EU:530db296-10a9-47a3-985c-779aff548bfbDid Labour inherit a black hole from the Major govt ? You made this assertion, "if we are being fair the Blair govt inherited a stable economy but after a few years it started to get worse and has continued to get worse year by year." The latter part was just not true
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Post by trymer on Aug 25, 2024 20:10:13 GMT
Did Labour inherit a black hole from the Major govt ? You made this assertion, "if we are being fair the Blair govt inherited a stable economy but after a few years it started to get worse and has continued to get worse year by year." The latter part was just not true So the first part was true then, but by the time Gordon Brown was booted out the economy was in a poor state.
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Post by aghast on Aug 25, 2024 20:19:19 GMT
Did Labour inherit a black hole from the Major govt ? You made this assertion, "if we are being fair the Blair govt inherited a stable economy but after a few years it started to get worse and has continued to get worse year by year." The latter part was just not true This is repeated ad nauseum by a few. The economic problems faced by the UK were of course caused by the global financial crisis of 2007-8, and all major economies suffered. But that doesn't stop people pretending the world economic situation was caused by Gordon Brown.
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 25, 2024 20:38:55 GMT
You made this assertion, "if we are being fair the Blair govt inherited a stable economy but after a few years it started to get worse and has continued to get worse year by year." The latter part was just not true This is repeated ad nauseum by a few. The economic problems faced by the UK were of course caused by the global financial crisis of 2007-8, and all major economies suffered. But that doesn't stop people pretending the world economic situation was caused by Gordon Brown. He certainly did his bit to the British economy.....
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