Icegas
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Post by Icegas on Oct 28, 2024 6:44:18 GMT
In all fairness, Tony is a comedian and this was his act.But I personally I'm not a fan of this on a political stage and not in favour. Some or the stuff he joked about has truth to it.Its the ugly truth, not PC but it is.
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 7:56:37 GMT
In all fairness, Tony is a comedian and this was his act.But I personally I'm not a fan of this on a political stage and not in favour. Some or the stuff he joked about has truth to it.Its the ugly truth, not PC but it is. Endorsed by Trump's campaign and invited. Which part of what he said is the truth?
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 28, 2024 7:58:34 GMT
Got to agree. This whole 'Nazi' narrative is just wrong. It is the tactic of the desperate. The Harris campaign has changed in recent weeks. It is now, "don't vote for me, but vote against Trump", and it is failing miserably.
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Post by Icegas on Oct 28, 2024 8:00:18 GMT
In all fairness, Tony is a comedian and this was his act.But I personally I'm not a fan of this on a political stage and not in favour. Some or the stuff he joked about has truth to it.Its the ugly truth, not PC but it is. Endorsed by Trump's campaign and invited. Which part of what he said is the truth? Everything that you would challenge.
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 8:02:16 GMT
Endorsed by Trump's campaign and invited. Which part of what he said is the truth? Everything that you would challenge. That's no answer. What's the point of saying some of what he said was true if you are not prepared to say it?
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 28, 2024 8:08:36 GMT
The Democrats are still playing a silly game. They have brought multiple lawsuits against Trump in the last four years, but the vast majority of these charges were stupid, and every time Trump was found not guilty, his popularity increased. They are attempting the same with these infantile shouts of 'Nazi'. They are concentrating on attacking Trump, but that will never work. They have to use economic arguments, tell us their plans. As long as it's a 'street brawl' Trump will win.
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 8:11:59 GMT
Got to agree. This whole 'Nazi' narrative is just wrong. It is the tactic of the desperate. The Harris campaign has changed in recent weeks. It is now, "don't vote for me, but vote against Trump", and it is failing miserably. Given that the polls suggest it's neck and neck I cannot see how you claim it's failing miserably. I had to laugh at the Madison Square Garden rally. Invited guest makes disgraceful racist remarks, the sort of remarks you would have heard at a Nazi rally in Germany in the 1930s and onwards. He says that Puerto Rico is a floating pile of garbage. In the crucial swing state of Pennsylvania there are over 500,000 residents of Puerto Rica origin. At the same time that the rally was going on Harris was in PA, at a well known popular Puerto Rica eatery, discussing the issues facing the island. She also reminded the locals of Trump's response to the hurricane that devastated the island in 2017. Nuff said. It's becoming apparent to me that Trump has to a degree given up on swing voters, and has gone full on racist pandering to his core racist support based in order to get his vote out.
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 8:13:00 GMT
The Democrats are still playing a silly game. They have brought multiple lawsuits against Trump in the last four years, but the vast majority of these charges were stupid, and every time Trump was found not guilty, his popularity increased. They are attempting the same with these infantile shouts of 'Nazi'. They are concentrating on attacking Trump, but that will never work. They have to use economic arguments, tell us their plans. As long as it's a 'street brawl' Trump will win. He was found guilty in New York and fined over $300 million.
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 28, 2024 8:18:14 GMT
The Democrats are still playing a silly game. They have brought multiple lawsuits against Trump in the last four years, but the vast majority of these charges were stupid, and every time Trump was found not guilty, his popularity increased. They are attempting the same with these infantile shouts of 'Nazi'. They are concentrating on attacking Trump, but that will never work. They have to use economic arguments, tell us their plans. As long as it's a 'street brawl' Trump will win. He was found guilty in New York and fined over $300 million. He has never been found guilty by a Federal Court. Still you just have to include 'Nazi' in your response.
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Post by Icegas on Oct 28, 2024 8:18:49 GMT
Everything that you would challenge. That's no answer. What's the point of saying some of what he said was true if you are not prepared to say it? It is a very valid answer, as myself and others on here for years have had arguments with yourself and others about these issues. Im sorry,but Im not wasting my time going down that rabbit hole again only to be called a racist..a Nazi etc, only for the outcome is for me to get a headache again. Its pointless. You believe what myself,and others are on here, and I know you are wrong.Ive defend my corner enough but your are entitled to your views. To clarify again....Im a huge Trump fan,and a kill Tony fan, and Im clearly completely anti woke and political correctness.But I don't think this was the correct place to have this material on from Trump. He certainly won't lose voters, but the MSM will try to spin it,as Sly news already have.
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 10:29:23 GMT
He was found guilty in New York and fined over $300 million. He has never been found guilty by a Federal Court. Still you just have to include 'Nazi' in your response. He was found guilty in a court of law. I never used the word Nazi in response to this point.
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 10:33:36 GMT
That's no answer. What's the point of saying some of what he said was true if you are not prepared to say it? It is a very valid answer, as myself and others on here for years have had arguments with yourself and others about these issues. Im sorry,but Im not wasting my time going down that rabbit hole again only to be called a racist..a Nazi etc, only for the outcome is for me to get a headache again. Its pointless. You believe what myself,and others are on here, and I know you are wrong.Ive defend my corner enough but your are entitled to your views. To clarify again....Im a huge Trump fan,and a kill Tony fan, and Im clearly completely anti woke and political correctness.But I don't think this was the correct place to have this material on from Trump. He certainly won't lose voters, but the MSM will try to spin it,as Sly news already have. Sounds like you don't have the confidence to defend the guy spouting racist tropes at the MSG rally to me. I am not surprised, it's indefensible. Same as the assertion by Trump that the foreign manufacturers will pay the increased tariffs on imports...you couldn't defend that nonsense either. Immigrants eating pets in Ohio...nope nor that. In fact is there one coherent Trump policy you can support?
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 10:53:10 GMT
Breaking news Two Trump acolytes who infiltrated the UK in order to repeat oft repeated falsehoods, have been captured and are now safely caged. www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2e7xdmy14moAny resemblance to certain members of this forum is purely coincidental 😂😂
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 28, 2024 10:54:31 GMT
He has never been found guilty by a Federal Court. Still you just have to include 'Nazi' in your response. He was found guilty in a court of law. I never used the word Nazi in response to this point. As you are well aware there is a huge difference between being found guilty at a Federal level than at a District Court level.
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 11:04:21 GMT
He was found guilty in a court of law. I never used the word Nazi in response to this point. As you are well aware there is a huge difference between being found guilty at a Federal level than at a District Court level. There is only one definition of 'guilty'
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Post by Icegas on Oct 28, 2024 11:07:52 GMT
It is a very valid answer, as myself and others on here for years have had arguments with yourself and others about these issues. Im sorry,but Im not wasting my time going down that rabbit hole again only to be called a racist..a Nazi etc, only for the outcome is for me to get a headache again. Its pointless. You believe what myself,and others are on here, and I know you are wrong.Ive defend my corner enough but your are entitled to your views. To clarify again....Im a huge Trump fan,and a kill Tony fan, and Im clearly completely anti woke and political correctness.But I don't think this was the correct place to have this material on from Trump. He certainly won't lose voters, but the MSM will try to spin it,as Sly news already have. Sounds like you don't have the confidence to defend the guy spouting racist tropes at the MSG rally to me. I am not surprised, it's indefensible. Same as the assertion by Trump that the foreign manufacturers will pay the increased tariffs on imports...you couldn't defend that nonsense either. Immigrants eating pets in Ohio...nope nor that. In fact is there one coherent Trump policy you can support? I proved you were a liar the other day..No lets go with the word 'fibber'... Do you want more? Honestly,I just want civil discourse while on here even if we disagree. You seem encouraged by the opposite for some reason? And I also brought up a case about tariffs with you in regards to China in Mexico,yet you ignored that. As for the eating of pets, if you look through my history, I think it was with Aghast that asked me if I disagreed with Trump on anything..( sorry if I'm misquoting you here Aghast) as I'm sure it was asked, and I said that I didn't agree with Trump in regards to the eating pets thing. You are digging. But no oil will be found at the bottom of that s**t pit you keep dumping in.
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 28, 2024 11:11:06 GMT
As you are well aware there is a huge difference between being found guilty at a Federal level than at a District Court level. There is only one definition of 'guilty' If you say so.
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 12:22:52 GMT
There is only one definition of 'guilty' If you say so. I do
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 12:25:09 GMT
Meanwhile In any normal society not populated by graceless baboons, this sort of stuff would kill your election campaign x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1850636070137762225Not in America apparently, Trump is likely to get 76 million votes. Shamefull
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Post by oldie on Oct 28, 2024 12:28:34 GMT
Sounds like you don't have the confidence to defend the guy spouting racist tropes at the MSG rally to me. I am not surprised, it's indefensible. Same as the assertion by Trump that the foreign manufacturers will pay the increased tariffs on imports...you couldn't defend that nonsense either. Immigrants eating pets in Ohio...nope nor that. In fact is there one coherent Trump policy you can support? I proved you were a liar the other day..No lets go with the word 'fibber'... Do you want more? Honestly,I just want civil discourse while on here even if we disagree. You seem encouraged by the opposite for some reason? And I also brought up a case about tariffs with you in regards to China in Mexico,yet you ignored that. As for the eating of pets, if you look through my history, I think it was with Aghast that asked me if I disagreed with Trump on anything..( sorry if I'm misquoting you here Aghast) as I'm sure it was asked, and I said that I didn't agree with Trump in regards to the eating pets thing. You are digging. But no oil will be found at the bottom of that s**t pit you keep dumping in. "And I also brought up a case about tariffs with you in regards to China in Mexico,yet you ignored that." Because it was incoherent. There is no point debating something which you don't understand, or are not able to see the wider context. Which is why I make it easier by asking direct questions, but to no avail.
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