icegas
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Post by icegas on Sept 13, 2024 11:07:03 GMT
Just because you are being silly with that question... As a non fascist myself, out of interest what has killed more people in the history of the world? Facisim or Marxism? As Trump is not a fascist,while his opponents father in Harris's was a Marxist, and she also seems to be one as she is almost as extreme left as one can go.
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Post by oldie on Sept 13, 2024 11:32:32 GMT
And this is what happens when ignorant people spread false stories like this. You should be ashamed www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/bomb-threat-springfield-stokes-fear-false-claims-haitian-migrants-pets-rcna170856"The Springfield Police Division told NBC News on Monday that “there have been no credible reports or specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.” Then "Denise Williams, president of Springfield's NAACP chapter, said in an interview Thursday that the bomb threat had sent a wave of concern through the community. She said her family pulled her two grandchildren out of school after the news of the threat circulated. “I’ve been in the city for years. I raised my children here. I’ve never seen anything like this, and I’ve never seen anything like this in my whole career of doing what I do, never,” Williams said. "I am absolutely disgusted with all of this." Yep. Morons live amongst us "Morons live amongst us" - They certainly do Oldie. Once again you are missing the whole point in your quest to show everyone your moral and intellectual superiority. You are fixated on the eating of animals and you use that the gloss over the real problem. What do you think the outcome will be of increasing the population of that small town by 25%? Where are the homes, jobs etc. All that is being created is a future s**t-storm which will destroy this community. How many other communities are facing the same problem? These are the real problems and issues that are not being talked about because all you and others want to do is talk about animals being eaten! Utter B/S Nobby This thread is about the elections in November. It was Trump, the Republican Candidate who made the statement about pets being eaten by immigrants, and it is that statement we (some of us) are ridiculing and debunking. Now there may well be issues in Springfield but we don't know what they are because they have not been articulated on this thread. You of course, per norm, have applied a broad stroke and claimed that because of immigrant arrivals into Springfield there must be a problem. Without actually arguing what the problems are. To save you scuttling off to Google for anything that has been reported, I will save you the time. Housing. "Springfield's housing problems predate the Haitians' arrival. A pair of studies by the Greater Ohio Policy Center found underinvestment and lack of code enforcement over the years, alongside population decline, left homes vacant and in disrepair. There are some signs that is reversing." POPULATION DECLINE "For their part, city officials, local educators and the business community say that once the short-term disruptions are overcome, a growing population will add to a nascent revival. "We needed a workforce," to fill jobs in a resurgent local manufacturing sector and staff a growing number of warehouse and distribution centers, said Amy Donahoe, director of workforce development with the Greater Springfield Partnership. "They are coming in and they are working hard and they want to make money." None of which supports the Republican narrative of course and completely contradicts the false rumours propagated by the usual suspects. Of course Haitians are black skinned, which after all is the real issue for those perpetrators of disgusting false rumours.
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oldie
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Post by oldie on Sept 13, 2024 11:34:58 GMT
Just because you are being silly with that question... As a non fascist myself, out of interest what has killed more people in the history of the world? Facisim or Marxism? As Trump is not a fascist,while his opponents father in Harris's was a Marxist, and she also seems to be one as she is almost as extreme left as one can go. "Trump’s Bedminster club hosted an alleged Nazi sympathizer who stormed the Capitol" If you think Harris is extreme left wing Ice I suggest you adjust your eyesight and or political antenna.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 13, 2024 11:40:40 GMT
"Morons live amongst us" - They certainly do Oldie. Once again you are missing the whole point in your quest to show everyone your moral and intellectual superiority. You are fixated on the eating of animals and you use that the gloss over the real problem. What do you think the outcome will be of increasing the population of that small town by 25%? Where are the homes, jobs etc. All that is being created is a future s**t-storm which will destroy this community. How many other communities are facing the same problem? These are the real problems and issues that are not being talked about because all you and others want to do is talk about animals being eaten! Utter B/S Nobby This thread is about the elections in November. It was Trump, the Republican Candidate who made the statement about pets being eaten by immigrants, and it is that statement we (some of us) are ridiculing and debunking. Now there may well be issues in Springfield but we don't know what they are because they have not been articulated on this thread. You of course, per norm, have applied a broad stroke and claimed that because of immigrant arrivals into Springfield there must be a problem. Without actually arguing what the problems are. To save you scuttling off to Google for anything that has been reported, I will save you the time. Housing. "Springfield's housing problems predate the Haitians' arrival. A pair of studies by the Greater Ohio Policy Center found underinvestment and lack of code enforcement over the years, alongside population decline, left homes vacant and in disrepair. There are some signs that is reversing." POPULATION DECLINE "For their part, city officials, local educators and the business community say that once the short-term disruptions are overcome, a growing population will add to a nascent revival. "We needed a workforce," to fill jobs in a resurgent local manufacturing sector and staff a growing number of warehouse and distribution centers, said Amy Donahoe, director of workforce development with the Greater Springfield Partnership. "They are coming in and they are working hard and they want to make money." None of which supports the Republican narrative of course and completely contradicts the false rumours propagated by the usual suspects. Of course Haitians are black skinned, which after all is the real issue for those perpetrators of disgusting false rumours. You asked about the racial problems in Springfield and posters responded.
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oldie
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Post by oldie on Sept 13, 2024 11:44:08 GMT
Utter B/S Nobby This thread is about the elections in November. It was Trump, the Republican Candidate who made the statement about pets being eaten by immigrants, and it is that statement we (some of us) are ridiculing and debunking. Now there may well be issues in Springfield but we don't know what they are because they have not been articulated on this thread. You of course, per norm, have applied a broad stroke and claimed that because of immigrant arrivals into Springfield there must be a problem. Without actually arguing what the problems are. To save you scuttling off to Google for anything that has been reported, I will save you the time. Housing. "Springfield's housing problems predate the Haitians' arrival. A pair of studies by the Greater Ohio Policy Center found underinvestment and lack of code enforcement over the years, alongside population decline, left homes vacant and in disrepair. There are some signs that is reversing." POPULATION DECLINE "For their part, city officials, local educators and the business community say that once the short-term disruptions are overcome, a growing population will add to a nascent revival. "We needed a workforce," to fill jobs in a resurgent local manufacturing sector and staff a growing number of warehouse and distribution centers, said Amy Donahoe, director of workforce development with the Greater Springfield Partnership. "They are coming in and they are working hard and they want to make money." None of which supports the Republican narrative of course and completely contradicts the false rumours propagated by the usual suspects. Of course Haitians are black skinned, which after all is the real issue for those perpetrators of disgusting false rumours. You asked about the racial problems in Springfield and posters responded. I did, and you provided not one iota of evidence. I have quoted two reports from the source, the City. Let's face it Basel, you do not have a clue about this topic, and actually, most topics.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 13, 2024 11:57:56 GMT
You asked about the racial problems in Springfield and posters responded. I did, and you provided not one iota of evidence. I have quoted two reports from the source, the City. Let's face it Basel, you do not have a clue about this topic, and actually, most topics. What's wrong with you? I doubt you talk to people to their face,the way you communicate on here. I provided a link ( through Google ) to a Telegraph article and Blue Tornados made a direct link.
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Post by oldie on Sept 13, 2024 13:21:41 GMT
I did, and you provided not one iota of evidence. I have quoted two reports from the source, the City. Let's face it Basel, you do not have a clue about this topic, and actually, most topics. What's wrong with you? I doubt you talk to people to their face,the way you communicate on here. I provided a link ( through Google ) to a Telegraph article and Blue Tornados made a direct link. Did you read the article? It debunked Trump's absurd assertion (which you said you think might be true) and the biggest problem was Nazis marching down the high st. Jesus wept
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 13, 2024 13:22:08 GMT
"Morons live amongst us" - They certainly do Oldie. Once again you are missing the whole point in your quest to show everyone your moral and intellectual superiority. You are fixated on the eating of animals and you use that the gloss over the real problem. What do you think the outcome will be of increasing the population of that small town by 25%? Where are the homes, jobs etc. All that is being created is a future s**t-storm which will destroy this community. How many other communities are facing the same problem? These are the real problems and issues that are not being talked about because all you and others want to do is talk about animals being eaten! Utter B/S Nobby This thread is about the elections in November. It was Trump, the Republican Candidate who made the statement about pets being eaten by immigrants, and it is that statement we (some of us) are ridiculing and debunking. Now there may well be issues in Springfield but we don't know what they are because they have not been articulated on this thread. You of course, per norm, have applied a broad stroke and claimed that because of immigrant arrivals into Springfield there must be a problem. Without actually arguing what the problems are. To save you scuttling off to Google for anything that has been reported, I will save you the time. Housing. "Springfield's housing problems predate the Haitians' arrival. A pair of studies by the Greater Ohio Policy Center found underinvestment and lack of code enforcement over the years, alongside population decline, left homes vacant and in disrepair. There are some signs that is reversing." POPULATION DECLINE "For their part, city officials, local educators and the business community say that once the short-term disruptions are overcome, a growing population will add to a nascent revival. "We needed a workforce," to fill jobs in a resurgent local manufacturing sector and staff a growing number of warehouse and distribution centers, said Amy Donahoe, director of workforce development with the Greater Springfield Partnership. "They are coming in and they are working hard and they want to make money." None of which supports the Republican narrative of course and completely contradicts the false rumours propagated by the usual suspects. Of course Haitians are black skinned, which after all is the real issue for those perpetrators of disgusting false rumours. You haven't read the earlier posts have you.
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Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 13, 2024 13:32:02 GMT
Springfield, Ohio. Rumours are rife with people keeping their cats indoors. Perhaps not surprising after the recent publicity. It might of been just 1 cat killed and eaten,or a few. Or it might just be vicious rumour made up by someone/a few because they are sick of the immigrants.Eg receiving benifits Americans don't get. There is racial tension in Springfield,the same sort of thing seen all over the US and for that matter UK. In a world where, a Muslim can behead men because he does'nt like their sexuality ( Rep Ireland ) ,is it that difficult to believe some immigrants bring their dietary likes with them to America. Is it that difficult to realise this is a rumour spread by someone with an agenda, renowned for talking gibberish? These are the kind of rumours spread by those, like Trump and Farage, that they know people will latch onto and believe because it ticks the boxes on their enmity and fear of foreigners and people coming to take their jobs but also claim benefits . Next up, 'Muslims ban the collection of money for poppies and want to ban Remembrance services.' Quickly followed by 'Muslims want to ban Christmas'
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Post by oldie on Sept 13, 2024 13:34:04 GMT
Spot on. You have pre-empted one or two
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Post by baselswh on Sept 13, 2024 13:42:52 GMT
Farage is very careful what he says.Labour and Conservative are scared of him and Reform ,so keep a close eye on him. Not to mention Ofcom.
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 13, 2024 13:48:17 GMT
"Morons live amongst us" - They certainly do Oldie. Once again you are missing the whole point in your quest to show everyone your moral and intellectual superiority. You are fixated on the eating of animals and you use that the gloss over the real problem. What do you think the outcome will be of increasing the population of that small town by 25%? Where are the homes, jobs etc. All that is being created is a future s**t-storm which will destroy this community. How many other communities are facing the same problem? These are the real problems and issues that are not being talked about because all you and others want to do is talk about animals being eaten! Utter B/S Nobby This thread is about the elections in November. It was Trump, the Republican Candidate who made the statement about pets being eaten by immigrants, and it is that statement we (some of us) are ridiculing and debunking. Now there may well be issues in Springfield but we don't know what they are because they have not been articulated on this thread. You of course, per norm, have applied a broad stroke and claimed that because of immigrant arrivals into Springfield there must be a problem. Without actually arguing what the problems are. To save you scuttling off to Google for anything that has been reported, I will save you the time. Housing. "Springfield's housing problems predate the Haitians' arrival. A pair of studies by the Greater Ohio Policy Center found underinvestment and lack of code enforcement over the years, alongside population decline, left homes vacant and in disrepair. There are some signs that is reversing." POPULATION DECLINE "For their part, city officials, local educators and the business community say that once the short-term disruptions are overcome, a growing population will add to a nascent revival. "We needed a workforce," to fill jobs in a resurgent local manufacturing sector and staff a growing number of warehouse and distribution centers, said Amy Donahoe, director of workforce development with the Greater Springfield Partnership. "They are coming in and they are working hard and they want to make money." None of which supports the Republican narrative of course and completely contradicts the false rumours propagated by the usual suspects. Of course Haitians are black skinned, which after all is the real issue for those perpetrators of disgusting false rumours. Your choice of language is rather unfortunate isn't it. Why should I 'scuttle off' when I have posted what some of the problems are already. You bring up the 'black skinned' narrative, yet on the video I posted earlier, one of the local people complaining to the City Council was 'black skinned'. The problems are not racism, but it seems as though you want to spread these false rumours that it is ! It's a shame that I have to lower myself to your standards, but it appears that it is the only language you understand. You really are a sanctimonious twat.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 13, 2024 13:51:51 GMT
Utter B/S Nobby This thread is about the elections in November. It was Trump, the Republican Candidate who made the statement about pets being eaten by immigrants, and it is that statement we (some of us) are ridiculing and debunking. Now there may well be issues in Springfield but we don't know what they are because they have not been articulated on this thread. You of course, per norm, have applied a broad stroke and claimed that because of immigrant arrivals into Springfield there must be a problem. Without actually arguing what the problems are. To save you scuttling off to Google for anything that has been reported, I will save you the time. Housing. "Springfield's housing problems predate the Haitians' arrival. A pair of studies by the Greater Ohio Policy Center found underinvestment and lack of code enforcement over the years, alongside population decline, left homes vacant and in disrepair. There are some signs that is reversing." POPULATION DECLINE "For their part, city officials, local educators and the business community say that once the short-term disruptions are overcome, a growing population will add to a nascent revival. "We needed a workforce," to fill jobs in a resurgent local manufacturing sector and staff a growing number of warehouse and distribution centers, said Amy Donahoe, director of workforce development with the Greater Springfield Partnership. "They are coming in and they are working hard and they want to make money." None of which supports the Republican narrative of course and completely contradicts the false rumours propagated by the usual suspects. Of course Haitians are black skinned, which after all is the real issue for those perpetrators of disgusting false rumours. Your choice of language is rather unfortunate isn't it. Why should I 'scuttle off' when I have posted what some of the problems are already. You bring up the 'black skinned' narrative, yet on the video I posted earlier, one of the local people complaining to the City Council was 'black skinned'. The problems are not racism, but it seems as though you want to spread these false rumours that it is ! It's a shame that I have to lower myself to your standards, but it appears that it is the only language you understand. You really are a sanctimonious twat. Hear hear Nobby! "Sanctimonious twat"! Absolutely spot on!
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Post by oldie on Sept 13, 2024 15:01:54 GMT
Utter B/S Nobby This thread is about the elections in November. It was Trump, the Republican Candidate who made the statement about pets being eaten by immigrants, and it is that statement we (some of us) are ridiculing and debunking. Now there may well be issues in Springfield but we don't know what they are because they have not been articulated on this thread. You of course, per norm, have applied a broad stroke and claimed that because of immigrant arrivals into Springfield there must be a problem. Without actually arguing what the problems are. To save you scuttling off to Google for anything that has been reported, I will save you the time. Housing. "Springfield's housing problems predate the Haitians' arrival. A pair of studies by the Greater Ohio Policy Center found underinvestment and lack of code enforcement over the years, alongside population decline, left homes vacant and in disrepair. There are some signs that is reversing." POPULATION DECLINE "For their part, city officials, local educators and the business community say that once the short-term disruptions are overcome, a growing population will add to a nascent revival. "We needed a workforce," to fill jobs in a resurgent local manufacturing sector and staff a growing number of warehouse and distribution centers, said Amy Donahoe, director of workforce development with the Greater Springfield Partnership. "They are coming in and they are working hard and they want to make money." None of which supports the Republican narrative of course and completely contradicts the false rumours propagated by the usual suspects. Of course Haitians are black skinned, which after all is the real issue for those perpetrators of disgusting false rumours. Your choice of language is rather unfortunate isn't it. Why should I 'scuttle off' when I have posted what some of the problems are already. You bring up the 'black skinned' narrative, yet on the video I posted earlier, one of the local people complaining to the City Council was 'black skinned'. The problems are not racism, but it seems as though you want to spread these false rumours that it is ! It's a shame that I have to lower myself to your standards, but it appears that it is the only language you understand. You really are a sanctimonious twat. Possibly But what I copied was straight from the authorities in Springfield, or reported of them. There is no doubt from their comments that they welcomed the population expansion after a period of decline. They recognise there will be some short term impacts but they have made it clear this influx is beneficial to the twn and it's economy in the longer term. I was going to copy over reports of two new quite large new housing developments, but the point is made. Which leaves Trump and the Republicans looking stupid, similarly their support based,but we knew that.
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Post by icegas on Sept 13, 2024 15:26:45 GMT
Just because you are being silly with that question... As a non fascist myself, out of interest what has killed more people in the history of the world? Facisim or Marxism? As Trump is not a fascist,while his opponents father in Harris's was a Marxist, and she also seems to be one as she is almost as extreme left as one can go. "Trump’s Bedminster club hosted an alleged Nazi sympathizer who stormed the Capitol" If you think Harris is extreme left wing Ice I suggest you adjust your eyesight and or political antenna. I beg to differ, but anyway. Is there an answer to my question? "As a non fascist myself, out of interest what has killed more people in the history of the world?" Facisim or Marxism? The democrats keep calling Trump as fascist, yet they are behind a Marxist in Harris..🤔 Where has Marxism ever worked?
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Post by baldrick on Sept 13, 2024 15:32:42 GMT
And this is what happens when ignorant people spread false stories like this. You should be ashamed www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/bomb-threat-springfield-stokes-fear-false-claims-haitian-migrants-pets-rcna170856"The Springfield Police Division told NBC News on Monday that “there have been no credible reports or specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.” Then "Denise Williams, president of Springfield's NAACP chapter, said in an interview Thursday that the bomb threat had sent a wave of concern through the community. She said her family pulled her two grandchildren out of school after the news of the threat circulated. “I’ve been in the city for years. I raised my children here. I’ve never seen anything like this, and I’ve never seen anything like this in my whole career of doing what I do, never,” Williams said. "I am absolutely disgusted with all of this." Yep. Morons live amongst us "Morons live amongst us" - They certainly do Oldie. Once again you are missing the whole point in your quest to show everyone your moral and intellectual superiority. You are fixated on the eating of animals and you use that the gloss over the real problem. What do you think the outcome will be of increasing the population of that small town by 25%? Where are the homes, jobs etc. All that is being created is a future s**t-storm which will destroy this community. How many other communities are facing the same problem? These are the real problems and issues that are not being talked about because all you and others want to do is talk about animals being eaten! You'll find Donald brought up the issue of eating pets which Bas believes is true.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 13, 2024 16:02:36 GMT
"Morons live amongst us" - They certainly do Oldie. Once again you are missing the whole point in your quest to show everyone your moral and intellectual superiority. You are fixated on the eating of animals and you use that the gloss over the real problem. What do you think the outcome will be of increasing the population of that small town by 25%? Where are the homes, jobs etc. All that is being created is a future s**t-storm which will destroy this community. How many other communities are facing the same problem? These are the real problems and issues that are not being talked about because all you and others want to do is talk about animals being eaten! You'll find Donald brought up the issue of eating pets which Bas believes is true. Has Donald joined the forum?
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Post by baselswh on Sept 13, 2024 16:19:27 GMT
Haitian migrants undercutting American workers at Springfield.
It's all coming out,bit by bit.
The migration problem. That's it
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Post by baldrick on Sept 13, 2024 16:23:35 GMT
You'll find Donald brought up the issue of eating pets which Bas believes is true. Has Donald joined the forum? I suspect he'd break Proboard rules and Cheshire would be obliged to ban him. 😎
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Post by baselswh on Sept 13, 2024 16:42:44 GMT
Has Donald joined the forum? I suspect he'd break Proboard rules and Cheshire would be obliged to ban him. 😎 I'm looking forward to Farage interviewing Trump again sometime and on GB News. Despite 2TKs efforts.
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