trymer
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Post by trymer on Jul 14, 2024 19:54:35 GMT
I hope that the strategic defence review here will take into account that Trump might pull the USA out of NATO,in that case the EU will have to take over the defence of continental Europe. Britain needs to sort out its own defence,some kind of anti missile system over every major city and potential targets like power stations,ports,airfields etc and a nuclear capability.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2024 20:30:26 GMT
Yeah, we got away with saving money on defence for a generation. No we have no choice but to fortify our national/continental defences, or appease Russian expansion and espionage.
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oldie
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Post by oldie on Jul 14, 2024 21:11:06 GMT
Yeah, we got away with saving money on defence for a generation. No we have no choice but to fortify our national/continental defences, or appease Russian expansion and espionage. That is not the question
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Post by baselswh on Jul 14, 2024 21:34:11 GMT
This adds up.Possibly saw himself as a bit of a spy. Just where is Dixon of Dock Green when you need him 😄🤔🤔 Maybe he attended both Democrat and Republican events eg.
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Post by icegas on Jul 14, 2024 23:57:02 GMT
I just watched on Fox that this guy donated $15 to the Biden fund for his president race. How does this mean he is a Republican..? [he is registered as a republican on the voting enrollment....... Ok, I was just going by what fox news said.
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Post by icegas on Jul 15, 2024 0:06:20 GMT
I hope that the strategic defence review here will take into account that Trump might pull the USA out of NATO,in that case the EU will have to take over the defence of continental Europe. Britain needs to sort out its own defence,some kind of anti missile system over every major city and potential targets like power stations,ports,airfields etc and a nuclear capability. That's honestly a great idea, but our current,and past 25 years worth of government has not stopped illegal immigrants jumping in a dingy and entering our country as illegal aliens.Therefore I don't hold any hope of this happening under the default party that is now at that head of the table in this country that are...'pro immigration' and "pro releasing dangerous criminals before their sentence is up".. I'm not a pessimistic person, but we are f**ked...Simple as!
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Post by baselswh on Jul 15, 2024 7:28:46 GMT
Donald Trump came across the shooting photos and film as a brave American hero.
The lefty media announcing 'he fell' and was 'rushed away' are on a losing damage limitation job.
Americans who were are not sure who to vote for,Don or Joe,well I think most will vote for Trump.
Fist in the air,blood trickling down his face. Defiant.
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 15, 2024 7:41:30 GMT
Donald Trump came across the shooting photos and film as a brave American hero. The lefty media announcing 'he fell' and was 'rushed away' are on a losing damage limitation job. Americans who were are not sure who to vote for,Don or Joe,well I think most will vote for Trump. Fist in the air,blood trickling down his face. Defiant. Stick to your Mills and Boon stuff Bas...less dramatic but still a sob story....John Wayne got shot hundreds of times ...got up and carried on....there's a real American hero ....😏
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 15, 2024 7:59:24 GMT
I hope that the strategic defence review here will take into account that Trump might pull the USA out of NATO,in that case the EU will have to take over the defence of continental Europe. Britain needs to sort out its own defence,some kind of anti missile system over every major city and potential targets like power stations,ports,airfields etc and a nuclear capability. Trump will not pull the US out of NATO. Europe is too important strategically to the US. Plus, this would mean a large downgrading on US Defence spending, and the big defence companies will just not let that happen. In the past, Trump has just demanded that the Europeans spend more to help defend themselves, and he is totally correct in saying this.
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Post by oldie on Jul 15, 2024 7:59:54 GMT
Donald Trump came across the shooting photos and film as a brave American hero. The lefty media announcing 'he fell' and was 'rushed away' are on a losing damage limitation job. Americans who were are not sure who to vote for,Don or Joe,well I think most will vote for Trump. Fist in the air,blood trickling down his face. Defiant. Stick to your Mills and Boon stuff Bas...less dramatic but still a sob story....John Wayne got shot hundreds of times ...got up and carried on....there's a real American hero ....😏 Made me smile this morning
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Post by oldie on Jul 15, 2024 8:03:48 GMT
I hope that the strategic defence review here will take into account that Trump might pull the USA out of NATO,in that case the EU will have to take over the defence of continental Europe. Britain needs to sort out its own defence,some kind of anti missile system over every major city and potential targets like power stations,ports,airfields etc and a nuclear capability. Trump will not pull the US out of NATO. Europe is too important strategically to the US. Plus, this would mean a large downgrading on US Defence spending, and the big defence companies will just not let that happen. In the past, Trump has just demanded that the Europeans spend more to help defend themselves, and he is totally correct in saying this. It looks as if Trump and Putin have awoken Europe (and us) to the fact we need to be capable of defending ourselves and not blindly rely on the USA solely. It's a sad state affairs that that 85 years after the last disaster we are still forced to talk like this.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 15, 2024 8:29:54 GMT
Donald Trump came across the shooting photos and film as a brave American hero. The lefty media announcing 'he fell' and was 'rushed away' are on a losing damage limitation job. Americans who were are not sure who to vote for,Don or Joe,well I think most will vote for Trump. Fist in the air,blood trickling down his face. Defiant. Stick to your Mills and Boon stuff Bas...less dramatic but still a sob story....John Wayne got shot hundreds of times ...got up and carried on....there's a real American hero ....😏 You fail to see the significance of the heroic Trump pose,or refuse to see it. As Ice ( I think ) posted,it's iconic.
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trymer
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Post by trymer on Jul 15, 2024 8:35:00 GMT
I hope that the strategic defence review here will take into account that Trump might pull the USA out of NATO,in that case the EU will have to take over the defence of continental Europe. Britain needs to sort out its own defence,some kind of anti missile system over every major city and potential targets like power stations,ports,airfields etc and a nuclear capability. Trump will not pull the US out of NATO. Europe is too important strategically to the US. Plus, this would mean a large downgrading on US Defence spending, and the big defence companies will just not let that happen. In the past, Trump has just demanded that the Europeans spend more to help defend themselves, and he is totally correct in saying this. Maybe the 1st Trump presidency will be looked at as the time of "nice man Trump" the 2nd presidency might be very different. A Trump inspired US strategic defence review could end with a meeting of the US,Russia and China...Trump might say "Putin you dont come west of a line drawn from Iceland to the Azores....US influence in the Pacific ends at Midway island so China you dont come closer to the USA than that".... In that scenario Britain will be better becoming an armed (WELL armed) neutral,all existing pacts and treaties should be scrapped, no sending troops to mainland Europe again.
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 15, 2024 8:37:42 GMT
Stick to your Mills and Boon stuff Bas...less dramatic but still a sob story....John Wayne got shot hundreds of times ...got up and carried on....there's a real American hero ....😏 You fail to see the significance of the heroic Trump pose,or refuse to see it. As Ice ( I think ) posted,it's iconic. Just WHAT is heroic about it Bas...the guy survived an assassination attempt, thankfully, very fortunate,but heroic no, heroes actually do something to earn that tag, military type people mainly or Joe /joan bloggs saving someone from a raging fire/ car crash,flood situation... Real things in life ,there is a difference
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trymer
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Post by trymer on Jul 15, 2024 8:40:02 GMT
Donald Trump came across the shooting photos and film as a brave American hero. The lefty media announcing 'he fell' and was 'rushed away' are on a losing damage limitation job. Americans who were are not sure who to vote for,Don or Joe,well I think most will vote for Trump. Fist in the air,blood trickling down his face. Defiant. Stick to your Mills and Boon stuff Bas...less dramatic but still a sob story....John Wayne got shot hundreds of times ...got up and carried on....there's a real American hero ....😏 To be pedantic he didnt get up at Iwo Jima.
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Post by trymer on Jul 15, 2024 8:42:14 GMT
You fail to see the significance of the heroic Trump pose,or refuse to see it. As Ice ( I think ) posted,it's iconic. Just WHAT is heroic about it Bas...the guy survived an assassination attempt, thankfully, very fortunate,but heroic no, heroes actually do something to earn that tag, military type people mainly or Joe /joan bloggs saving someone from a raging fire/ car crash,flood situation... Real things in life ,there is a difference This is America though....reality and Hollywood do seem to get confused....what did he say at the end of liberty Valance ? something like if theres truth or legend print the legend.
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Post by icegas on Jul 15, 2024 9:29:45 GMT
Now again,can I remind you not to twist my words as you lot always try to do it...so STOP IT! Maybe the wrong choice of language on my behalf using the catchphrase of "an eye for an eye" as people like yourself will twist it. Pelosi has said some horrendous things in regards to Trump, many lies involved.What I meant was in the political theater like today when Trump is involved the gloves seem to have been taken off, so he reacted to a situation that had happened to her husband the way he did... I condemned that earlier. Anyway, Trump never called for her husband to be attacked,he spoke after the incident, it still doesn't justify his words but let's keep to the true timeline here. You, yourself didn't condemn the attempted assassination of president Trump last night now did you? nor have I seen any clowns on twitter. Rather you have just said that it's was obvious that you didn't agree with it, or something like that. The RADICAL LEFT are desperate.Lets not beat around the bush here.. they are terrified of Mr Trump as he is not apart of the deepstate and will expose them all.They had the balls to attempt a political cue last night by killing Trump in public and failed by inches.Thats the final nail in their coffin. What's next? A false flag nuclear attack involving Israel/the Ukraine or Russia? After last night anything is a possibility. I am not. You do it time and time again. You say something (often ludicrous) get picked up on it and then start crying, claiming you didn't mean that. Then proceed to repeat it. I condemn all violence, including threats to "batter" people that have been made on here. Perhaps you should instead of trying to justify it Your making no sense... what do I do time after time exactly? - you are not going old Biden on me here are you Oldie? No, YOU suggest,or change the wording of mine and others on here quotes/written text and than spin it to fit your narrative. Who threatened to batter anyone here and how have I justified anything? ...there again you are using slander. Wheres the proof of me doing so? You confused me with someone else. And why should I condemn anything that I'm not aware of, or never had a part of? Honestly, are you losing the plot Joe...sorry I mean Oldie? That's the most nonsense you have ever written on here, like seriously.
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Post by oldie on Jul 15, 2024 10:01:39 GMT
I am not. You do it time and time again. You say something (often ludicrous) get picked up on it and then start crying, claiming you didn't mean that. Then proceed to repeat it. I condemn all violence, including threats to "batter" people that have been made on here. Perhaps you should instead of trying to justify it Your making no sense... what do I do time after time exactly? - you are not going old Biden on me here are you Oldie? No, YOU suggest,or change the wording of mine and others on here quotes/written text and than spin it to fit your narrative. Who threatened to batter anyone here and how have I justified anything? ...there again you are using slander. Wheres the proof of me doing so? You confused me with someone else. And why should I condemn anything that I'm not aware of, or never had a part of? Honestly, are you losing the plot Joe...sorry I mean Oldie? That's the most nonsense you have ever written on here, like seriously. Carry on.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 15, 2024 10:14:42 GMT
You fail to see the significance of the heroic Trump pose,or refuse to see it. As Ice ( I think ) posted,it's iconic. Just WHAT is heroic about it Bas...the guy survived an assassination attempt, thankfully, very fortunate,but heroic no, heroes actually do something to earn that tag, military type people mainly or Joe /joan bloggs saving someone from a raging fire/ car crash,flood situation... Real things in life ,there is a difference It's the pose,iconic. No getting away from that.
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oldie
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Post by oldie on Jul 15, 2024 10:21:25 GMT
I guess people will see what they want to see
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