trymer
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Post by trymer on Jun 15, 2024 8:14:07 GMT
Your obsession with the Reform Party, who look like winning two or three seats, is quite worrying. Why are you not holding the flame to Labour and their policies as they will be forming the next government? The only questions left are, who will form the official opposition, the Tories or Lib Dems. Who will pick up the greater amount of votes, the Tories or Reform. Those are the two battles being decided. For example, do you think imposing VAT on Private Schools is good economics, or just an ideological action? Does the UK need another Border Agency? Is it feasible to promise 1.5 million new homes when the average built in any year is about 160,000? What will this new British Energy Company do, when it will not produce any actual energy? What tax rises are Labour hiding? Why doesn't Labour have a plan for illegal immigrants? Farage is a revolutionary, geriatric voters like the old "tried and trusted" (haha) political parties,I expect that some still havent got over the demise of the Whigs. Some old f@rt in Derbyshire on radio 4 last night,when asked who he would vote for "aye always vote Labour like my old mam did".....I dont know (or care) who my old mam voted for and in any case todays issues are different....
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trymer
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Post by trymer on Jun 15, 2024 8:15:29 GMT
I want to hear more from Farage about law and order and what Reform intend to do about crime which for a lot of people who live in cities is a huge issue.
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oldie
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Post by oldie on Jun 15, 2024 12:03:00 GMT
Your obsession with the Reform Party, who look like winning two or three seats, is quite worrying. Why are you not holding the flame to Labour and their policies as they will be forming the next government? The only questions left are, who will form the official opposition, the Tories or Lib Dems. Who will pick up the greater amount of votes, the Tories or Reform. Those are the two battles being decided. For example, do you think imposing VAT on Private Schools is good economics, or just an ideological action? Does the UK need another Border Agency? Is it feasible to promise 1.5 million new homes when the average built in any year is about 160,000? What will this new British Energy Company do, when it will not produce any actual energy? What tax rises are Labour hiding? Why doesn't Labour have a plan for illegal immigrants? Farage is a revolutionary, geriatric voters like the old "tried and trusted" (haha) political parties,I expect that some still havent got over the demise of the Whigs. Some old f@rt in Derbyshire on radio 4 last night,when asked who he would vote for "aye always vote Labour like my old mam did".....I dont know (or care) who my old mam voted for and in any case todays issues are different.... Perhaps But what specific Reform Party policies will you be voting for, and I don't mean unsubstantiated wish lists. I bet you cannot You are just frustrated and Farage is tapping into your frustration for power, nothing else, just power. He doesn't give two hoots about you.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 15, 2024 12:25:29 GMT
I want to hear more from Farage about law and order and what Reform intend to do about crime which for a lot of people who live in cities is a huge issue. Here you go:- ""Policing and crime:- Increase police numbers Enforcement of ‘zero tolerance’ policing Review of police leadership teams Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders High intensity training camps for young offenders Reform has accused the Government of being “soft on crime” and paints a picture of “badly failing” police leadership, citing a collapse in charging rates to around five per cent. Its immediate law and order objectives include the start of an increase in police numbers that would see 40,000 new officers over the course of a five-year parliament. “Zero tolerance” policing, which the party said has been a success in New York, would mean offenders received jail sentences for all violent crimes and the possession of a knife. A new offence of substantial possession of drugs would lead to heavy fines, while the use of stop-and-search would be vastly expanded, with Reform hailing it as a “proven deterrent to knife crime”. Police leadership teams would be reviewed and where necessary replaced, with a “strong preference” for military veterans. All diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations would be abolished in an attempt to stop what Mr Tice referred to in his spring conference speech as “two-tier policing”. Police and Crime Commissioners would either be scrapped or reformed – “either they get the power to make a real change or they should go” – and degree-standard entry would be replaced with entrance exams, while officers would have to complete two years of probation. Violent offenders would receive automatic life imprisonment as part of an urgent review. The definition of hate crime would be changed in order to require “proper evidence”, pro-Palestinian marches banned using existing powers, 10,000 new detention places created and the budget of the National Crime Agency increased to tackle foreign gang crime. Young offenders, meanwhile, would face high intensity training camps that would reopen to offer “basic education, training and values… [This model] is needed more than ever.” Reform UK also wants to cut down on cash-only barbershops, which the party claims are a front for money laundering after experts and senior industry figures warned some of the traders engage in illegal activity and undercut honest traders in communities. The Reform manifesto states that “foreign gang crime” accounts for most organised crime in the UK at a cost of £37 billion per year, adding: “This includes drugs, people trafficking and money laundering through barbershops, car washes and nail bars.”"
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Post by oldie on Jun 15, 2024 12:51:52 GMT
I want to hear more from Farage about law and order and what Reform intend to do about crime which for a lot of people who live in cities is a huge issue. Here you go:- ""Policing and crime:- Increase police numbers Enforcement of ‘zero tolerance’ policing Review of police leadership teams Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders High intensity training camps for young offenders Reform has accused the Government of being “soft on crime” and paints a picture of “badly failing” police leadership, citing a collapse in charging rates to around five per cent. Its immediate law and order objectives include the start of an increase in police numbers that would see 40,000 new officers over the course of a five-year parliament. “Zero tolerance” policing, which the party said has been a success in New York, would mean offenders received jail sentences for all violent crimes and the possession of a knife. A new offence of substantial possession of drugs would lead to heavy fines, while the use of stop-and-search would be vastly expanded, with Reform hailing it as a “proven deterrent to knife crime”. Police leadership teams would be reviewed and where necessary replaced, with a “strong preference” for military veterans. All diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations would be abolished in an attempt to stop what Mr Tice referred to in his spring conference speech as “two-tier policing”. Police and Crime Commissioners would either be scrapped or reformed – “either they get the power to make a real change or they should go” – and degree-standard entry would be replaced with entrance exams, while officers would have to complete two years of probation. Violent offenders would receive automatic life imprisonment as part of an urgent review. The definition of hate crime would be changed in order to require “proper evidence”, pro-Palestinian marches banned using existing powers, 10,000 new detention places created and the budget of the National Crime Agency increased to tackle foreign gang crime. Young offenders, meanwhile, would face high intensity training camps that would reopen to offer “basic education, training and values… [This model] is needed more than ever.” Reform UK also wants to cut down on cash-only barbershops, which the party claims are a front for money laundering after experts and senior industry figures warned some of the traders engage in illegal activity and undercut honest traders in communities. The Reform manifesto states that “foreign gang crime” accounts for most organised crime in the UK at a cost of £37 billion per year, adding: “This includes drugs, people trafficking and money laundering through barbershops, car washes and nail bars.”" 😂😂😂 You can tell a lot of thought has gone into that 🤔🤔 Reads like "our Nige" was stood at the bar having a pint and was asked a question whereupon he pulled out an envelope and "brain dumped" a series of random thoughts.
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Post by baselswh on Jun 15, 2024 14:37:32 GMT
Here you go:- ""Policing and crime:- Increase police numbers Enforcement of ‘zero tolerance’ policing Review of police leadership teams Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders High intensity training camps for young offenders Reform has accused the Government of being “soft on crime” and paints a picture of “badly failing” police leadership, citing a collapse in charging rates to around five per cent. Its immediate law and order objectives include the start of an increase in police numbers that would see 40,000 new officers over the course of a five-year parliament. “Zero tolerance” policing, which the party said has been a success in New York, would mean offenders received jail sentences for all violent crimes and the possession of a knife. A new offence of substantial possession of drugs would lead to heavy fines, while the use of stop-and-search would be vastly expanded, with Reform hailing it as a “proven deterrent to knife crime”. Police leadership teams would be reviewed and where necessary replaced, with a “strong preference” for military veterans. All diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations would be abolished in an attempt to stop what Mr Tice referred to in his spring conference speech as “two-tier policing”. Police and Crime Commissioners would either be scrapped or reformed – “either they get the power to make a real change or they should go” – and degree-standard entry would be replaced with entrance exams, while officers would have to complete two years of probation. Violent offenders would receive automatic life imprisonment as part of an urgent review. The definition of hate crime would be changed in order to require “proper evidence”, pro-Palestinian marches banned using existing powers, 10,000 new detention places created and the budget of the National Crime Agency increased to tackle foreign gang crime. Young offenders, meanwhile, would face high intensity training camps that would reopen to offer “basic education, training and values… [This model] is needed more than ever.” Reform UK also wants to cut down on cash-only barbershops, which the party claims are a front for money laundering after experts and senior industry figures warned some of the traders engage in illegal activity and undercut honest traders in communities. The Reform manifesto states that “foreign gang crime” accounts for most organised crime in the UK at a cost of £37 billion per year, adding: “This includes drugs, people trafficking and money laundering through barbershops, car washes and nail bars.”" 😂😂😂 You can tell a lot of thought has gone into that 🤔🤔 Reads like "our Nige" was stood at the bar having a pint and was asked a question whereupon he pulled out an envelope and "brain dumped" a series of random thoughts. It's a decent Opposition. Britons deserve it.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 15, 2024 17:31:11 GMT
Here you go:- ""Policing and crime:- Increase police numbers Enforcement of ‘zero tolerance’ policing Review of police leadership teams Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders High intensity training camps for young offenders Reform has accused the Government of being “soft on crime” and paints a picture of “badly failing” police leadership, citing a collapse in charging rates to around five per cent. Its immediate law and order objectives include the start of an increase in police numbers that would see 40,000 new officers over the course of a five-year parliament. “Zero tolerance” policing, which the party said has been a success in New York, would mean offenders received jail sentences for all violent crimes and the possession of a knife. A new offence of substantial possession of drugs would lead to heavy fines, while the use of stop-and-search would be vastly expanded, with Reform hailing it as a “proven deterrent to knife crime”. Police leadership teams would be reviewed and where necessary replaced, with a “strong preference” for military veterans. All diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations would be abolished in an attempt to stop what Mr Tice referred to in his spring conference speech as “two-tier policing”. Police and Crime Commissioners would either be scrapped or reformed – “either they get the power to make a real change or they should go” – and degree-standard entry would be replaced with entrance exams, while officers would have to complete two years of probation. Violent offenders would receive automatic life imprisonment as part of an urgent review. The definition of hate crime would be changed in order to require “proper evidence”, pro-Palestinian marches banned using existing powers, 10,000 new detention places created and the budget of the National Crime Agency increased to tackle foreign gang crime. Young offenders, meanwhile, would face high intensity training camps that would reopen to offer “basic education, training and values… [This model] is needed more than ever.” Reform UK also wants to cut down on cash-only barbershops, which the party claims are a front for money laundering after experts and senior industry figures warned some of the traders engage in illegal activity and undercut honest traders in communities. The Reform manifesto states that “foreign gang crime” accounts for most organised crime in the UK at a cost of £37 billion per year, adding: “This includes drugs, people trafficking and money laundering through barbershops, car washes and nail bars.”" 😂😂😂 You can tell a lot of thought has gone into that 🤔🤔 Reads like "our Nige" was stood at the bar having a pint and was asked a question whereupon he pulled out an envelope and "brain dumped" a series of random thoughts. And just what have Labour and the Tories said?
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oldie
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Post by oldie on Jun 15, 2024 17:45:35 GMT
😂😂😂 You can tell a lot of thought has gone into that 🤔🤔 Reads like "our Nige" was stood at the bar having a pint and was asked a question whereupon he pulled out an envelope and "brain dumped" a series of random thoughts. And just what have Labour and the Tories said? A few posts back you picked out parts of what Labour had said and asked me what I thought. I responded. But to the point, this is trash Nobby.
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Post by baselswh on Jun 15, 2024 21:04:35 GMT
And just what have Labour and the Tories said? A few posts back you picked out parts of what Labour had said and asked me what I thought. I responded. But to the point, this is trash Nobby. "Trash".🤭🇺🇸
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 15, 2024 22:09:05 GMT
And just what have Labour and the Tories said? A few posts back you picked out parts of what Labour had said and asked me what I thought. I responded. But to the point, this is trash Nobby. This was in response to the Law & Order question, not what we talked about earlier. Why is it 'trash'? Give us your reasoning. Once again though, what have the Tories or Labour given us apart from the tired old "we will create 5000/6000/7000 more Police." . To just say it's "trash" is pretty pointless isn't it. Tell us why you think that.
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Post by oldie on Jun 16, 2024 1:31:39 GMT
A few posts back you picked out parts of what Labour had said and asked me what I thought. I responded. But to the point, this is trash Nobby. This was in response to the Law & Order question, not what we talked about earlier. Why is it 'trash'? Give us your reasoning. Once again though, what have the Tories or Labour given us apart from the tired old "we will create 5000/6000/7000 more Police." . To just say it's "trash" is pretty pointless isn't it. Tell us why you think that. Ok then (Policing and crime:- Increase police numbers) Where? what specific objective? and how are they going to fund that. (Enforcement of ‘zero tolerance’ policing) What does that mean and how does that translate in the "street"? (Review of police leadership teams) Review what? (Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations) To what end or objective? (Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders) Under which law and in which prisons when we are practicing early release due to a lack of space? (High intensity training camps for young offenders) 😂😂😂, really. (Its immediate law and order objectives include the start of an increase in police numbers that would see 40,000 new officers over the course of a five-year parliament.) See above, where and how is this funded? (Reform UK also wants to cut down on cash-only barbershops, which the party claims are a front for money laundering after experts and senior industry figures warned some of the traders engage in illegal activity and undercut honest traders in communities. The Reform manifesto states that “foreign gang crime” accounts for most organised crime in the UK at a cost of £37 billion per year, adding: “This includes drugs, people trafficking and money laundering through barbershops, car washes and nail bars.”) Really It's Trash Nobby, ill considered, barely thought through and just a series of sound bites. Typical populist trash, and opiate for the frustrated and ill informed
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Post by baselswh on Jun 16, 2024 6:45:06 GMT
Reform would punish criminals .Arrest,court then punishment. This is the attitude and it's something that the public want. This "attitude" would drive their whole approach to the questions you've raised.
Deliberately muddling the waters by not talking about Labours "attitude" is exactly the kind of wishy washy s**t Britons are sick of.
Reform. Make the streets safe. Stop the awful imported crime wave. Stop the boats. Build prisons. Tougher sentencing.
Get the job done.
Driven by the desire to punish criminals and save victims.
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Post by baselswh on Jun 16, 2024 6:48:12 GMT
This was in response to the Law & Order question, not what we talked about earlier. Why is it 'trash'? Give us your reasoning. Once again though, what have the Tories or Labour given us apart from the tired old "we will create 5000/6000/7000 more Police." . To just say it's "trash" is pretty pointless isn't it. Tell us why you think that. Ok then (Policing and crime:- Increase police numbers) Where? what specific objective? and how are they going to fund that. (Enforcement of ‘zero tolerance’ policing) What does that mean and how does that translate in the "street"? (Review of police leadership teams) Review what? (Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations) To what end or objective? (Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders) Under which law and in which prisons when we are practicing early release due to a lack of space? (High intensity training camps for young offenders) 😂😂😂, really. (Its immediate law and order objectives include the start of an increase in police numbers that would see 40,000 new officers over the course of a five-year parliament.) See above, where and how is this funded? (Reform UK also wants to cut down on cash-only barbershops, which the party claims are a front for money laundering after experts and senior industry figures warned some of the traders engage in illegal activity and undercut honest traders in communities. The Reform manifesto states that “foreign gang crime” accounts for most organised crime in the UK at a cost of £37 billion per year, adding: “This includes drugs, people trafficking and money laundering through barbershops, car washes and nail bars.”) Really It's Trash Nobby, ill considered, barely thought through and just a series of sound bites. Typical populist trash, and opiate for the frustrated and ill informed Regarding "funding". How much money would be saved by stopping the boats and deporting the illegals. Hotel bills eg.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 16, 2024 7:11:47 GMT
"Deliberately muddling the waters by not talking about Labours "attitude" is exactly the kind of wishy washy s**t Britons are sick of. " - Exactly this.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 16, 2024 7:15:57 GMT
This was in response to the Law & Order question, not what we talked about earlier. Why is it 'trash'? Give us your reasoning. Once again though, what have the Tories or Labour given us apart from the tired old "we will create 5000/6000/7000 more Police." . To just say it's "trash" is pretty pointless isn't it. Tell us why you think that. Ok then (Policing and crime:- Increase police numbers) Where? what specific objective? and how are they going to fund that. (Enforcement of ‘zero tolerance’ policing) What does that mean and how does that translate in the "street"? (Review of police leadership teams) Review what? (Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations) To what end or objective? (Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders) Under which law and in which prisons when we are practicing early release due to a lack of space? (High intensity training camps for young offenders) 😂😂😂, really. (Its immediate law and order objectives include the start of an increase in police numbers that would see 40,000 new officers over the course of a five-year parliament.) See above, where and how is this funded? (Reform UK also wants to cut down on cash-only barbershops, which the party claims are a front for money laundering after experts and senior industry figures warned some of the traders engage in illegal activity and undercut honest traders in communities. The Reform manifesto states that “foreign gang crime” accounts for most organised crime in the UK at a cost of £37 billion per year, adding: “This includes drugs, people trafficking and money laundering through barbershops, car washes and nail bars.”) Really It's Trash Nobby, ill considered, barely thought through and just a series of sound bites. Typical populist trash, and opiate for the frustrated and ill informed So, what are the future Labour Government saying? They call it, "take back our streets" which seems to suggest we have 'lost our streets'. Labour Manifesto "
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Post by baselswh on Jun 16, 2024 7:23:49 GMT
A report on Jovan Owusu-Nepaul,the Labour candidate for Clacton.
On YouTube.
"Labour Candidate Against Farage HATES White People".
On Mahyar Tousi' YT Channel .
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Post by ltdgas on Jun 16, 2024 7:46:32 GMT
This was in response to the Law & Order question, not what we talked about earlier. Why is it 'trash'? Give us your reasoning. Once again though, what have the Tories or Labour given us apart from the tired old "we will create 5000/6000/7000 more Police." . To just say it's "trash" is pretty pointless isn't it. Tell us why you think that. Ok then (Policing and crime:- Increase police numbers) Where? what specific objective? and how are they going to fund that. (Enforcement of ‘zero tolerance’ policing) What does that mean and how does that translate in the "street"? (Review of police leadership teams) Review what? (Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations) To what end or objective? (Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders) Under which law and in which prisons when we are practicing early release due to a lack of space? (High intensity training camps for young offenders) 😂😂😂, really. (Its immediate law and order objectives include the start of an increase in police numbers that would see 40,000 new officers over the course of a five-year parliament.) See above, where and how is this funded? (Reform UK also wants to cut down on cash-only barbershops, which the party claims are a front for money laundering after experts and senior industry figures warned some of the traders engage in illegal activity and undercut honest traders in communities. The Reform manifesto states that “foreign gang crime” accounts for most organised crime in the UK at a cost of £37 billion per year, adding: “This includes drugs, people trafficking and money laundering through barbershops, car washes and nail bars.”) Really It's Trash Nobby, ill considered, barely thought through and just a series of sound bites. Typical populist trash, and opiate for the frustrated and ill informed The reform manifesto is correct if it states money laundering is happening , that’s why 4 foreign foods shops have been shut down for 3 months near me, it’s on another thread due to money laundering , people trafficking, cheap vapes , beer . Barbers , now this is where you might be able to enlighten me with your business brain. My old hairdresser shut down as he couldn't in his words there wasn’t the footfall to make the shop pay , he’d been there 40/50 yrs , just him in shop , he has been replaced by 4 foreign hairdressers in the row where there was 1 , you go by those shops and there’s never anyone in them , the hairdressers are all sat outside smoking , most look like 2 hairdressers in each one . So how if one man can’t make it pay due to footfall , how are 4 shops with what looks like 2 per shop , 8 hairdressers making it pay ? As far as I’m aware no hairdressers have been shut down for illegal activities, but other than doing something illegal as just can’t see how those shops can be viable .
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Post by ltdgas on Jun 16, 2024 8:08:42 GMT
I did laugh this morning , outrage over the calf being knocked down by police in west London Caller one , I’m a black person & this has been happening to us for years , I personally have ent seen any reports of police cars ramming black people . Caller two , every one is bothered about a cow when genocide continues in Gaza , look mate it’s a English cow , our own come first Caller 3 , what has happened to my country , sending people to Rwanda , ramming calf’s , get a grip Nb I must admit ramming it twice looked way over the top
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 16, 2024 12:05:34 GMT
A report on Jovan Owusu-Nepaul,the Labour candidate for Clacton. On YouTube. "Labour Candidate Against Farage HATES White People". On Mahyar Tousi' YT Channel .
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Post by baselswh on Jun 16, 2024 12:25:45 GMT
A report on Jovan Owusu-Nepaul,the Labour candidate for Clacton. On YouTube. "Labour Candidate Against Farage HATES White People". On Mahyar Tousi' YT Channel . Thank you BT.👍 This is the calibre of Labour candidates.
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