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Post by oldie on Jun 13, 2024 19:46:06 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jun 13, 2024 19:47:27 GMT
The blokes a joke trying to use his father for a bit of "working class credibility" if anyone falls for all this BS they must be very gullible. A bit like falling for the guff that "our Nigel" is a man of the people. |
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Post by baselswh on Jun 13, 2024 20:03:21 GMT
The blokes a joke trying to use his father for a bit of "working class credibility" if anyone falls for all this BS they must be very gullible. A bit like falling for the guff that "our Nigel" is a man of the people. Britons recognise authenticity.Eg Moggy does'nt shy away from his Nanny and resemblance to Lord Snooty from the Beano. Farage is pretty straight. Sir Kier appears to be trying too hard and is getting caught out. Just be yourself,Britons recognise it,usually accept and respect it. |
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Post by ltdgas on Jun 13, 2024 20:55:52 GMT
Just up the road from me , good old down to earth folks who say it as it is , lot of old folks liked the country as it was , not turned into a third world hell hole as Enoch said it would Maybe have a look at yourself as your one of the ones calling for mass migration , multiculturalism, diversity crap that pissing so many people off you reap what you sow !! |
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Post by baselswh on Jun 13, 2024 21:06:40 GMT
Go to any country on earth that has been 'blessed' with mass immigration and you will find people that say the same thing. In the scenario i go to Rome for a holiday,I hope to see Rome its culture,history and Roman people. Not Africans or Arabs Islamifying the place. Perfectly understandable and reasonable . |
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 13, 2024 21:31:57 GMT
Just up the road from me , good old down to earth folks who say it as it is , lot of old folks liked the country as it was , not turned into a third world hell hole as Enoch said it would Maybe have a look at yourself as your one of the ones calling for mass migration , multiculturalism, diversity crap that pissing so many people off you reap what you sow !! The "Rivers of Blood" speech was made by British Member of Parliament Enoch Powell on 20th April 1968, to a meeting of the Conservative Political Centre in Birmingham, England. His speech made various remarks, which included strong criticism of significant Commonwealth immigration to the United Kingdom and the proposed Race Relations Act, which made it illegal to refuse housing, employment, or public services to a person on the grounds of colour, race, ethnic or national origins in the country. It became known as the "Rivers of Blood" speech, although Powell always referred to it as "the Birmingham speech". The speech caused a political storm, making Powell one of the most talked about and divisive politicians in the country; it led to his controversial dismissal from the Shadow Cabinet by Conservative Party Leader Edward Heath. According to most accounts, the popularity of Powell's perspective on immigration may have been a decisive factor in the Conservatives' surprise victory in the 1970 general election, although he became one of the most persistent opponents of the subsequent Heath government. i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/13/article-2158958-13981E0A000005DC-732_638x494.jpgThe full Rivers of blood speech belowen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech |
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Post by oldie on Jun 13, 2024 21:36:03 GMT
A bit like falling for the guff that "our Nigel" is a man of the people. Britons recognise authenticity.Eg Moggy does'nt shy away from his Nanny and resemblance to Lord Snooty from the Beano. Farage is pretty straight. Sir Kier appears to be trying too hard and is getting caught out. Just be yourself,Britons recognise it,usually accept and respect it. The majority of us are. We are just let down by other Brits who don't know what they are talking about,act like buffoons and are easily led by the nose. |
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Post by oldie on Jun 13, 2024 21:38:33 GMT
Just up the road from me , good old down to earth folks who say it as it is , lot of old folks liked the country as it was , not turned into a third world hell hole as Enoch said it would Maybe have a look at yourself as your one of the ones calling for mass migration , multiculturalism, diversity crap that pissing so many people off you reap what you sow !! The "Rivers of Blood" speech was made by British Member of Parliament Enoch Powell on 20th April 1968, to a meeting of the Conservative Political Centre in Birmingham, England. His speech made various remarks, which included strong criticism of significant Commonwealth immigration to the United Kingdom and the proposed Race Relations Act, which made it illegal to refuse housing, employment, or public services to a person on the grounds of colour, race, ethnic or national origins in the country. It became known as the "Rivers of Blood" speech, although Powell always referred to it as "the Birmingham speech". The speech caused a political storm, making Powell one of the most talked about and divisive politicians in the country; it led to his controversial dismissal from the Shadow Cabinet by Conservative Party Leader Edward Heath. According to most accounts, the popularity of Powell's perspective on immigration may have been a decisive factor in the Conservatives' surprise victory in the 1970 general election, although he became one of the most persistent opponents of the subsequent Heath government. i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/13/article-2158958-13981E0A000005DC-732_638x494.jpgThe full Rivers of blood speech belowen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speechI remember it well. It would be good to put the Conservative victory in 1970 into the context of what happened to our economy in the following years |
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Post by oldie on Jun 13, 2024 23:03:39 GMT
Just up the road from me , good old down to earth folks who say it as it is , lot of old folks liked the country as it was , not turned into a third world hell hole as Enoch said it would Maybe have a look at yourself as your one of the ones calling for mass migration , multiculturalism, diversity crap that pissing so many people off you reap what you sow !! Can we invoke the laws that surrounded the Enclosure Acts? (A series of United Kingdom Acts of Parliament which enclosed open fields and common land in the country, creating legal property rights to land that was previously considered common. Between 1604 and 1914, over 5,200 individual acts were put onto place, enclosing 6.8 million acres.) Anyone who objected was deported |
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Post by baselswh on Jun 14, 2024 6:12:28 GMT
Britons recognise authenticity.Eg Moggy does'nt shy away from his Nanny and resemblance to Lord Snooty from the Beano. Farage is pretty straight. Sir Kier appears to be trying too hard and is getting caught out. Just be yourself,Britons recognise it,usually accept and respect it. The majority of us are. We are just let down by other Brits who don't know what they are talking about,act like buffoons and are easily led by the nose. Sulking about eg the Brexit referendum result won't get you anywhere Oldie. Maybe these Britons are just sick to death of what they've seen, in the knowledge it's getting worse with the two main political parties continuing to let them down. |
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Post by baselswh on Jun 14, 2024 6:37:11 GMT
In 1968,Enoch Powell made a speech.He simply pointed out let's keep India for Indians,etc.Not forgetting it's possible to love another country from your own,without wanting your own country to become the other.
He predicted the awful failiure of multiculturalism.
He was right.
Only a fool would say Enoch was a racist .
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 14, 2024 8:27:04 GMT
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 14, 2024 8:29:25 GMT
ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/14/1e933fc6-fdf9-444b-b3ca-c0078da1c8e6.jpgReform UK's leader, Nigel Farage, is speaking to BBC Breakfast - he says the party wasn't ready for the election but have had a "phenomenal start", referring to YouGov's single poll from last night, which puts Reform just ahead of the Conservatives. "I want us to become the opposition voice in Parliament and the country," he says. He's pushed on how many seats the party is targeting on that basis, but doesn't answer, eventually saying he has "no idea". Nigel Farage is now asked about Brexit and migration - he claims the reason Brexit has failed on migration in the eyes of many is the Conservative Party "hasn't delivered". He says the Conservatives promised to reduce net migration, which is running at three quarters of a million, describing it as a "complete breach of trust". "Be in no doubt, we are in charge in these things," he says. "Brexit gives us self-governance. It doesn't guarantee success, but it does mean we're in charge." Nigel Farage is asked what he meant when he said Rishi Sunak didn't understand "our culture" - which he said after the PM left D-Day commemorations early. Farage replies that Sunak "doesn't know where the centre ground of opinion in this country is," claiming that Sunak has "no connection with working people" because he went to Winchester College, Oxford University and worked at Goldman Sachs. "You were a trader yourself weren't you?" presenter Charlie Stayt says. "Yeah - I wasn't at Goldman Sachs," Farage replies. Presenter Naga Munchetty then puts to Farage "you are a very wealthy man also". Farage replies "No, what, compared to Rishi Sunak, are you having a laugh? He is disconnected in every way." Is Farage wealthier than the average person? "Yes I am, but I'm able to connect."
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Post by ltdgas on Jun 14, 2024 8:43:43 GMT
ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/14/1e933fc6-fdf9-444b-b3ca-c0078da1c8e6.jpgReform UK's leader, Nigel Farage, is speaking to BBC Breakfast - he says the party wasn't ready for the election but have had a "phenomenal start", referring to YouGov's single poll from last night, which puts Reform just ahead of the Conservatives. "I want us to become the opposition voice in Parliament and the country," he says. He's pushed on how many seats the party is targeting on that basis, but doesn't answer, eventually saying he has "no idea". Nigel Farage is now asked about Brexit and migration - he claims the reason Brexit has failed on migration in the eyes of many is the Conservative Party "hasn't delivered". He says the Conservatives promised to reduce net migration, which is running at three quarters of a million, describing it as a "complete breach of trust". "Be in no doubt, we are in charge in these things," he says. "Brexit gives us self-governance. It doesn't guarantee success, but it does mean we're in charge." Nigel Farage is asked what he meant when he said Rishi Sunak didn't understand "our culture" - which he said after the PM left D-Day commemorations early. Farage replies that Sunak "doesn't know where the centre ground of opinion in this country is," claiming that Sunak has "no connection with working people" because he went to Winchester College, Oxford University and worked at Goldman Sachs. "You were a trader yourself weren't you?" presenter Charlie Stayt says. "Yeah - I wasn't at Goldman Sachs," Farage replies. Presenter Naga Munchetty then puts to Farage "you are a very wealthy man also". Farage replies "No, what, compared to Rishi Sunak, are you having a laugh? He is disconnected in every way." Is Farage wealthier than the average person? "Yes I am, but I'm able to connect." Great to see nige getting so much air time ( really upsetting the commies 👍) came over really well , much more impressive than any other of the party leader , just confirms my decision to vote reform is the correct one I do have one criticism of him , no mention of what jobs his dad , mum, uncle did 😂😂😂 |
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 14, 2024 8:53:21 GMT
ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/1440/cpsprodpb/126DF/production/_133378457_farage-grab-hero.pngReform UK leader Nigel Farage is answering listeners' questions as part of a leaders special on Nicky Campbell’s BBC Radio 5 Live show - NOW. The leaders of the seven main parties have been invited to talk directly to the voters over the course of the campaign. Paul, a caller to 5 Live is asking Farage if the cost of living is caused by his "baby, Brexit". Farage replies that it's not Brexit, it's energy bills that have gone up - people on low incomes pay the highest proportion for their energy. House prices and rents are up, he says. But Brexit has cost the country billions, caller Paul counters, and that has had an impact on what the Clacton man and woman have in their pocket - "that is the negative impact of Brexit". Farage replies by highlighting migration and says people are getting poorer because of it. Nicky Campbell is pressing Farage on his views on Russia's President Putin and the war in Ukraine. "Is it desperate when you said you admired Putin as an operator?" Campbell asks him about a comment Farage has made in the past. Farage says Putin is a "clever political operator", adding that he doesn't like him "as a human being". "You can recognise the fact that some people are good at what they do even if they have evil intent." Campbell turns to questioning the Reform UK leader on the war in Ukraine. Farage says he worries the war will go on for many more years if people don't sit down and negotiate. Campbell asks him what he would say to Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky if he had a meeting with him. "I'd say to Zelensky, look, the West have been supporting you, they will go on supporting you, but the percentage of your young manhood that you're losing is so bad isn't it time we at least tried to have a negotiation?" Julie, a caller from Birmingham, asks Farage about his support for Donald Trump, and Nicky Campbell follows up with a question on whether Farage thinks the US election was stolen. He claims that any country that has a large postal ballot will always be open to fraud and intimidation, adding that “it happens in this country all the time”. He then goes on to say that the UK should look to France, which has a "great" voting system that allows people who can’t vote on the day to apply for an early vote.
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Post by ltdgas on Jun 14, 2024 8:53:31 GMT
Nige mentioning a Population Explosion !! On top of the 30 million foreigners who’ve already racked up !! The old saying was a shop on every corner , it will be a mosque on every street 🙄🙄 |
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Post by oldie on Jun 14, 2024 9:54:27 GMT
Some of the comments on here, just wow.
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Post by oldie on Jun 14, 2024 10:02:31 GMT
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 14, 2024 10:38:30 GMT
But Farage was right though. |
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Post by oldie on Jun 14, 2024 11:15:11 GMT
But Farage was right though. The point of the laughter was the irony of Farage accusing others of lying. |
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