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Post by oldie on Sept 26, 2024 14:58:12 GMT
Telegraph stating people are not going to be happy as white actor cast as 'dark-skinned' Heathcliffe in a new version of Wuthering Heights! Sorry, full story behind a paywall so not sure who is complaining. Glad they are keeping us up to date with these key stories, with all that's going on in the world... The 'wokerati' I suspect. Took this from elsewhere: "Heathcliff in the original Emily Brontë book likely isn't white. He's a foundling who is described early in the novel as "a dark-skinned gipsy," with Mr. Linton saying that he is "a little Lascar, or an American or Spanish castaway." Later it is suggested that when Heathcliff prayed to God he was instead met "with his own black father." " The point is that Heathcliff faced racism in the book so his ethnicity is central to the character. Bas, Nobby? Any thoughts? 😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by baselswh on Sept 26, 2024 15:18:28 GMT
Telegraph stating people are not going to be happy as white actor cast as 'dark-skinned' Heathcliffe in a new version of Wuthering Heights! Sorry, full story behind a paywall so not sure who is complaining. Glad they are keeping us up to date with these key stories, with all that's going on in the world... The 'wokerati' I suspect. Took this from elsewhere: "Heathcliff in the original Emily Brontë book likely isn't white. He's a foundling who is described early in the novel as "a dark-skinned gipsy," with Mr. Linton saying that he is "a little Lascar, or an American or Spanish castaway." Later it is suggested that when Heathcliff prayed to God he was instead met "with his own black father." " The point is that Heathcliff faced racism in the book so his ethnicity is central to the character. Bas, Nobby? Any thoughts? I imagine there are a few wokers busy reading the book,so they can speak out and up for Latin looking types,who in turn won't have a clue what they are on about. As for whitey playing the part of Heathcliff, it's not such a deviation from the story,is it? Not like eg a black Queen of England. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 26, 2024 15:22:38 GMT
Telegraph stating people are not going to be happy as white actor cast as 'dark-skinned' Heathcliffe in a new version of Wuthering Heights! Sorry, full story behind a paywall so not sure who is complaining. Glad they are keeping us up to date with these key stories, with all that's going on in the world... The 'wokerati' I suspect. Took this from elsewhere: "Heathcliff in the original Emily Brontë book likely isn't white. He's a foundling who is described early in the novel as "a dark-skinned gipsy," with Mr. Linton saying that he is "a little Lascar, or an American or Spanish castaway." Later it is suggested that when Heathcliff prayed to God he was instead met "with his own black father." " The point is that Heathcliff faced racism in the book so his ethnicity is central to the character. Bas, Nobby? Any thoughts? I really couldn't give a toss as this book is a work of fiction. |
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Post by baldrick on Sept 26, 2024 15:28:56 GMT
The 'wokerati' I suspect. Took this from elsewhere: "Heathcliff in the original Emily Brontë book likely isn't white. He's a foundling who is described early in the novel as "a dark-skinned gipsy," with Mr. Linton saying that he is "a little Lascar, or an American or Spanish castaway." Later it is suggested that when Heathcliff prayed to God he was instead met "with his own black father." " The point is that Heathcliff faced racism in the book so his ethnicity is central to the character. Bas, Nobby? Any thoughts? I imagine there are a few wokers busy reading the book,so they can speak out and up for Latin looking types,who in turn won't have a clue what they are on about. As for whitey playing the part of Heathcliff, it's not such a deviation from the story,is it? Not like eg a black Queen of England. Except he's definitely not white in the story. |
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Post by baselswh on Sept 26, 2024 15:34:15 GMT
I imagine there are a few wokers busy reading the book,so they can speak out and up for Latin looking types,who in turn won't have a clue what they are on about. As for whitey playing the part of Heathcliff, it's not such a deviation from the story,is it? Not like eg a black Queen of England. Except he's definitely not white in the story. Get Kate Bush to decide. |
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Post by baldrick on Sept 26, 2024 15:37:47 GMT
The 'wokerati' I suspect. Took this from elsewhere: "Heathcliff in the original Emily Brontë book likely isn't white. He's a foundling who is described early in the novel as "a dark-skinned gipsy," with Mr. Linton saying that he is "a little Lascar, or an American or Spanish castaway." Later it is suggested that when Heathcliff prayed to God he was instead met "with his own black father." " The point is that Heathcliff faced racism in the book so his ethnicity is central to the character. Bas, Nobby? Any thoughts? I really couldn't give a toss as this book is a work of fiction. Thought you'd say that, but didn't you previously suggest that sometimes the skin colour of the actor is important in playing the role? Whilst it's fiction, it's central to the character. |
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 26, 2024 15:39:11 GMT
The 'wokerati' I suspect. Took this from elsewhere: "Heathcliff in the original Emily Brontë book likely isn't white. He's a foundling who is described early in the novel as "a dark-skinned gipsy," with Mr. Linton saying that he is "a little Lascar, or an American or Spanish castaway." Later it is suggested that when Heathcliff prayed to God he was instead met "with his own black father." " The point is that Heathcliff faced racism in the book so his ethnicity is central to the character. Bas, Nobby? Any thoughts? I imagine there are a few wokers busy reading the book,so they can speak out and up for Latin looking types,who in turn won't have a clue what they are on about. As for whitey playing the part of Heathcliff, it's not such a deviation from the story,is it? Not like eg a black Queen of England. Somebody already did 🤔 |
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Post by baldrick on Sept 26, 2024 15:39:40 GMT
Except he's definitely not white in the story. Get Kate Bush to decide. Come on Bas, you wouldn’t want Oldie, Cheshire or me to give a flippant response if it was the other way round. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 26, 2024 18:13:50 GMT
I really couldn't give a toss as this book is a work of fiction. Thought you'd say that, but didn't you previously suggest that sometimes the skin colour of the actor is important in playing the role? Whilst it's fiction, it's central to the character. 😂😂😂 |
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Sept 27, 2024 7:40:17 GMT
Post by Nobbygas on Sept 27, 2024 7:40:17 GMT
I really couldn't give a toss as this book is a work of fiction. Thought you'd say that, but didn't you previously suggest that sometimes the skin colour of the actor is important in playing the role? Whilst it's fiction, it's central to the character. Yes, there are times where the skin colour is important. For example, would you cast a white actor to play Nelson Mandela in a biopic? No, you wouldn't. As for this book, no, I don't give a monkey's. |
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Post by trymer on Sept 27, 2024 7:47:17 GMT
Thought you'd say that, but didn't you previously suggest that sometimes the skin colour of the actor is important in playing the role? Whilst it's fiction, it's central to the character. Yes, there are times where the skin colour is important. For example, would you cast a white actor to play Nelson Mandela in a biopic? No, you wouldn't. As for this book, no, I don't give a monkey's. I totally agree, I notice that for quite a while its been popular to include a non white character in Robin Hood, just tokenism and really its a bit patronising,still I suppose it makes all the snowflakes happy. |
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Post by baldrick on Sept 27, 2024 7:51:34 GMT
Yes, there are times where the skin colour is important. For example, would you cast a white actor to play Nelson Mandela in a biopic? No, you wouldn't. As for this book, no, I don't give a monkey's. I totally agree, I notice that for quite a while its been popular to include a non white character in Robin Hood, just tokenism and really its a bit patronising,still I suppose it makes all the snowflakes happy. As it's a work of fiction, does it matter? |
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Post by oldie on Sept 27, 2024 8:58:59 GMT
I totally agree, I notice that for quite a while its been popular to include a non white character in Robin Hood, just tokenism and really its a bit patronising,still I suppose it makes all the snowflakes happy. As it's a work of fiction, does it matter? Imagine...quoting Robin Hood 😂😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 27, 2024 9:34:33 GMT
Fewer. 😇 And since when were dramas 100% accurate? Was Macbeth dark skinned? Was Helen of Troy pale skinned? Did Jesus Christ look like an Arab? Are the "Royal" family really Germans? Does anyone give a toss? What about if Muhammad or the prophets were portrayed by hairy Scottish men, drinking scotch and eating haggis in a film or documentary? I know you wouldn't give a toss,I commend that... but how would the left loonies,or Muslims react? How would that go down? |
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Post by oldie on Sept 27, 2024 10:06:22 GMT
Was Macbeth dark skinned? Was Helen of Troy pale skinned? Did Jesus Christ look like an Arab? Are the "Royal" family really Germans? Does anyone give a toss? What about if Muhammad or the prophets were portrayed by hairy Scottish men, drinking scotch and eating haggis in a film or documentary? I know you wouldn't give a toss,I commend that... but how would the left loonies,or Muslims react? How would that go down? How many films, historically, have characters from the Middle East been acted by white British or American males? Was Cleopatra acted by Elizabeth Taylor. I could go on. |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 27, 2024 10:10:15 GMT
What about if Muhammad or the prophets were portrayed by hairy Scottish men, drinking scotch and eating haggis in a film or documentary? I know you wouldn't give a toss,I commend that... but how would the left loonies,or Muslims react? How would that go down? How many films, historically, have characters from the Middle East been acted by white British or American males? Was Cleopatra acted by Elizabeth Taylor. I could go on. Not the question I asked. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 27, 2024 10:12:19 GMT
How many films, historically, have characters from the Middle East been acted by white British or American males? Was Cleopatra acted by Elizabeth Taylor. I could go on. Not the question I asked. Your question was utterly stupid. If a Scot was portraying Mohammed in character and in faith, he would hardly be drinking scotch now, would he... |
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Post by Icegas on Sept 27, 2024 10:24:07 GMT
Not the question I asked. Your question was utterly stupid. If a Scot was portraying Mohammed in character and in faith, he would hardly be drinking scotch now, would he... Oldie,you contradict yourself so much at times it's scary. The irony of my question was missed. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 27, 2024 12:33:26 GMT
Your question was utterly stupid. If a Scot was portraying Mohammed in character and in faith, he would hardly be drinking scotch now, would he... Oldie,you contradict yourself so much at times it's scary. The irony of my question was missed. You sure? |
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Post by aghast on Sept 27, 2024 16:18:16 GMT
Your question was utterly stupid. If a Scot was portraying Mohammed in character and in faith, he would hardly be drinking scotch now, would he... Oldie,you contradict yourself so much at times it's scary. The irony of my question was missed. I think you need to Google the meaning of the word irony. |
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