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Post by eppinggas on Feb 13, 2024 11:06:46 GMT
Yup. Despite SKS 'words' the Labour Party remains anti-semitic. They thought they had got rid of it after ridding themselves of Hamas apologist, Jeremy Corbyn. But it's still there. Tip of the iceberg, or just one bad apple. Could be a good harvest this year. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68280098SKS had to rely on a Mail/Mail on Sunday sting to find out. Because he obviously doesn't know what sort of candidates he is endorsing. |
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Post by oldie on Feb 13, 2024 12:47:56 GMT
Yup. Despite SKS 'words' the Labour Party remains anti-semitic. They thought they had got rid of it after ridding themselves of Hamas apologist, Jeremy Corbyn. But it's still there. Tip of the iceberg, or just one bad apple. Could be a good harvest this year. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68280098SKS had to rely on a Mail/Mail on Sunday sting to find out. Because he obviously doesn't know what sort of candidates he is endorsing. I listened to the recording of the comments he made, the candidate that is, and he said "I cannot believe that the Israelis did not have any forewarning of what was planned for October 7th." Well yes, given their reputation for intelligence services I am a bit surprised. The context of that apparent intelligence failure was(still is) a pretty repulsive Uber nationalist government which, prior to the horrific events of October 7th was facing massive unrest and demonstrations, to the point where even military reservists we refusing to serve. Could I IMAGINE such nasty government risking something like that to turn heads? Yes I could. Do I believe they planned for what happened? No I do not. Is there an element of doubt, indeed, but that may stem from my intense dislike for such governments and their views. A bit like the views expressed on here on occasion, public hangings, rounding up people as traitors and more. Do my views make me anti Semitic? Absolutely not. But then the Tories and the supporters of right wing governments have to hang their hats on something, anything. After all, they are totally incapable of making a solid fact based argument for their views, are they. As far as Starmer's leadership on this one issue is concerned, he effed this up. He has work to do to convince the population he is competent and hard enough to lead. Tony Blair was, that's why the Tories despised him so much. Somebody on the forum labelled this segment of the Labour Party "Red Tories" |
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 13, 2024 14:12:30 GMT
The Israelis have already admitted they screwed up. Intelligence Analysts had picked up on something was brewing, but like 911, that analysis was over ruled. It was indeed a huge intelligence failure. These things happen. As the IRA always said, "the Brits have to be lucky every day. We only have to be lucky once!".
To suggest that the Israelis know what was going to happen, and just let it happen anyway, is abhorrent.
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Post by trymer on Feb 13, 2024 15:26:33 GMT
Yup. Despite SKS 'words' the Labour Party remains anti-semitic. They thought they had got rid of it after ridding themselves of Hamas apologist, Jeremy Corbyn. But it's still there. Tip of the iceberg, or just one bad apple. Could be a good harvest this year. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68280098SKS had to rely on a Mail/Mail on Sunday sting to find out. Because he obviously doesn't know what sort of candidates he is endorsing. IF I was a jew I would be worried about my families safety in Britain right now,if/when Labour get into power I would be even more worried. |
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Post by trymer on Feb 13, 2024 15:34:07 GMT
The Israelis have already admitted they screwed up. Intelligence Analysts had picked up on something was brewing, but like 911, that analysis was over ruled. It was indeed a huge intelligence failure. These things happen. As the IRA always said, "the Brits have to be lucky every day. We only have to be lucky once!". To suggest that the Israelis know what was going to happen, and just let it happen anyway, is abhorrent. You have to be very cynical to think that the Israelis would let Hamas make the attack and sacrifice 2000 + Israeli citizens lives. This Israeli government is very extreme, would they ignore intelligence deliberately because it suited them to have the attack take place ? Tony Blair took Britain to war because he had seen intelligence about Iraqs weapons of mass destruction,so we know that some people do what suits their agenda. |
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Post by oldie on Feb 13, 2024 16:39:58 GMT
The Israelis have already admitted they screwed up. Intelligence Analysts had picked up on something was brewing, but like 911, that analysis was over ruled. It was indeed a huge intelligence failure. These things happen. As the IRA always said, "the Brits have to be lucky every day. We only have to be lucky once!". To suggest that the Israelis know what was going to happen, and just let it happen anyway, is abhorrent. You have to be very cynical to think that the Israelis would let Hamas make the attack and sacrifice 2000 + Israeli citizens lives. This Israeli government is very extreme, would they ignore intelligence deliberately because it suited them to have the attack take place ? Tony Blair took Britain to war because he had seen intelligence about Iraqs weapons of mass destruction,so we know that some people do what suits their agenda. So, are you suggesting they might have? |
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 13, 2024 16:47:41 GMT
Yup. Despite SKS 'words' the Labour Party remains anti-semitic. They thought they had got rid of it after ridding themselves of Hamas apologist, Jeremy Corbyn. But it's still there. Tip of the iceberg, or just one bad apple. Could be a good harvest this year. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68280098SKS had to rely on a Mail/Mail on Sunday sting to find out. Because he obviously doesn't know what sort of candidates he is endorsing. IF I was a jew I would be worried about my families safety in Britain right now,if/when Labour get into power I would be even more worried. Jewish people do not feel safe on the streets of London. How sad is that in this day and age? Disgusting state of affairs. |
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Post by oldie on Feb 13, 2024 17:01:56 GMT
IF I was a jew I would be worried about my families safety in Britain right now,if/when Labour get into power I would be even more worried. Jewish people do not feel safe on the streets of London. How sad is that in this day and age? Disgusting state of affairs. You know that how? |
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Post by oldie on Feb 13, 2024 17:25:33 GMT
From last November
"Ahead of expected mass protest in London, Jewish leaders say Tommy Robinson and supporters 'not allies of the Jewish community"
"The London demonstration on Sunday, organized by the Campaign Against Antisemitism, is expected to bring crowds of about 40,000, including a significant presence of non-Jews."
But organizers deny sharing a mindset with the far-right. “Contrary to what Tommy Robinson appears to believe, the drunken far-right thugs who came to ‘protect the Cenotaph’ on Armistice Day, some of whom shouted ‘sieg heil’ or hospitalized police officers, are not allies of the Jewish community and are not welcome at our solidarity march,”
There you go
Indigenous anti Semitism.
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 13, 2024 17:26:17 GMT
The Israelis have already admitted they screwed up. Intelligence Analysts had picked up on something was brewing, but like 911, that analysis was over ruled. It was indeed a huge intelligence failure. These things happen. As the IRA always said, "the Brits have to be lucky every day. We only have to be lucky once!". To suggest that the Israelis know what was going to happen, and just let it happen anyway, is abhorrent. You have to be very cynical to think that the Israelis would let Hamas make the attack and sacrifice 2000 + Israeli citizens lives. This Israeli government is very extreme, would they ignore intelligence deliberately because it suited them to have the attack take place ? Tony Blair took Britain to war because he had seen intelligence about Iraqs weapons of mass destruction,so we know that some people do what suits their agenda. The Israeli government did not ignore the Intelligence. It would never have got that far. Somebody far lower down the food chain would have made that decision. |
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Post by oldie on Feb 13, 2024 17:33:10 GMT
You have to be very cynical to think that the Israelis would let Hamas make the attack and sacrifice 2000 + Israeli citizens lives. This Israeli government is very extreme, would they ignore intelligence deliberately because it suited them to have the attack take place ? Tony Blair took Britain to war because he had seen intelligence about Iraqs weapons of mass destruction,so we know that some people do what suits their agenda. The Israeli government did not ignore the Intelligence. It would never have got that far. Somebody far lower down the food chain would have made that decision. Bet whoever did, make that call, is under a bit of pressure 🤔 |
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Post by ltdgas on Feb 13, 2024 18:07:58 GMT
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Post by oldie on Feb 13, 2024 18:48:19 GMT
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 13, 2024 18:57:20 GMT
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Post by oldie on Feb 13, 2024 19:01:31 GMT
Was that the same meeting? Wow...less about their views than how the hell did they pass vetting? We do need to be a bit careful though, so as to not shut down viewpoints for political expediency...in my view |
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Post by trymer on Feb 13, 2024 19:51:23 GMT
You have to be very cynical to think that the Israelis would let Hamas make the attack and sacrifice 2000 + Israeli citizens lives. This Israeli government is very extreme, would they ignore intelligence deliberately because it suited them to have the attack take place ? Tony Blair took Britain to war because he had seen intelligence about Iraqs weapons of mass destruction,so we know that some people do what suits their agenda. The Israeli government did not ignore the Intelligence. It would never have got that far. Somebody far lower down the food chain would have made that decision. I have no idea who made what decision and that doesnt matter,its what people believe happened thats the issue. |
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Post by trymer on Feb 13, 2024 19:52:20 GMT
I wonder how many more have said things that they are going to regret ? |
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Post by oldie on Feb 13, 2024 20:27:45 GMT
I wonder how many more have said things that they are going to regret ? You should know |
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Post by ltdgas on Feb 14, 2024 7:52:27 GMT
I wonder how many more have said things that they are going to regret ? You should know on nick Ferrari,s show this morning he said 5 more labour mp.s are under investigation , apparently the Rochdale one has liked homophobic tweets & endorsed a mosque which is full of radical preachers , he’s deemed to be a moderate among Rochdale labour members On other news apparently sue gray has demanded the personal phones of some labour mps as there were leakes over the 28 billion green plan u- turn It’s what I said months ago , it’s going to be a absolute s**t show if these get in , as a lot of there councillors are saying, we will keep our tinder dry until we’re in power , then he’s gone |
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Post by oldie on Feb 14, 2024 7:57:41 GMT
on nick Ferrari,s show this morning he said 5 more labour mp.s are under investigation , apparently the Rochdale one has liked homophobic tweets & endorsed a mosque which is full of radical preachers , he’s deemed to be a moderate among Rochdale labour members On other news apparently sue gray has demanded the personal phones of some labour mps as there were leakes over the 28 billion green plan u- turn It’s what I said months ago , it’s going to be a absolute s**t show if these get in , as a lot of there councillors are saying, we will keep our tinder dry until we’re in power , then he’s gone GB News is not a credible news source |
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