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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 2:19:24 GMT
Didn't think that was a need to open a thread of its own, but this is disgusting... From the Olympics 2024 opening ceremony. I'm ok with anyone being what they want inside their own space,but the Olympics should be ashamed of themselves today! Being a Transgender should first be treated as a mental illness even before the thought of surgery is entertained, just for the safety of the person in question. But now any person can identify as whatever they want, and enter into whatever toilet they want.Its a disgrace,and a pure creation of the radical left. But for the grandest stage of them all,the Olympics games to endorse it is both a disgrace,along with disgusting to mankind. Keep politics and Wokie f**kweeds out of a special gathering of Elite athletes each four years. Do they know how many mentally ill people this s**t is creating from the next generation of youth.. x.com/9mm_smg/status/1816933990588383590?t=YOG1I5VkHgby33G_gsPNSg&s=19How this got the ok is..Unbelievable!
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 4:24:44 GMT
x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1816996421528125573?t=FgRKk7IO4bV59DRtUbPUJw&s=19The Olympics mocking the Christian faith...they wouldn't dare do that to Islam.. I'm no fan of Islam, but I have to respect that they would straight up confront these issues with an iron fist and have a iron will to defend their belief and the Quran, and won't not have let that happen to their faith on worldwide TV. We in the west,and are ok with the wokie generations to just mock and take the piss out of our major religion... Disgusting.
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Didn't think that was a need to open a thread of its own, but this is disgusting... From the Olympics 2024 opening ceremony. I'm ok with anyone being what they want inside their own space,but the Olympics should be ashamed of themselves today! Being a Transgender should first be treated as a mental illness even before the thought of surgery is entertained, just for the safety of the person in question. But now any person can identify as whatever they want, and enter into whatever toilet they want.Its a disgrace,and a pure creation of the radical left. But for the grandest stage of them all,the Olympics games to endorse it is both a disgrace,along with disgusting to mankind. Keep politics and Wokie f**kweeds out of a special gathering of Elite athletes each four years. Do they know how many mentally ill people this s**t is creating from the next generation of youth.. x.com/9mm_smg/status/1816933990588383590?t=YOG1I5VkHgby33G_gsPNSg&s=19How this got the ok is..Unbelievable! I am always amazed that some people get so upset with other people's gender or sexuality. I was born male, found myself attracted to women and now, on the home strait, I am still male and still find women attractive. Along this road I have met a lot of men who either would rather be in the body of a woman who were attracted to men. Similarly I have met a lot of women who would perhaps prefer to being in the body of a male and were attracted to women. More than a few were, or became, friends, stayed with my wife and I as guests on many occasions, sometimes with their partners. Never thought of any those friends as having a mental illness (not in regard to gender and sexuality at least). Personally I find that claim insulting and pretty disgusting. I long ago concluded that those who shout loudest on this topic display signs of insecurity with their own gender and sexuality.
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Post by oldie on Jul 27, 2024 4:45:53 GMT
x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1816996421528125573?t=FgRKk7IO4bV59DRtUbPUJw&s=19The Olympics mocking the Christian faith...they wouldn't dare do that to Islam.. I'm no fan of Islam, but I have to respect that they would straight up confront these issues with an iron fist and have a iron will to defend their belief and the Quran, and won't not have let that happen to their faith on worldwide TV. We in the west,and are ok with the wokie generations to just mock and take the piss out of our major religion... Disgusting. The Life of Brian. As an atheist I have no time for any religion, but I do respect the rights of others to believe in the ridiculous concept of a god. Comedy is a very useful tool to expose the contradictions and rank stupidity of faith, blind faith that is.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 5:37:44 GMT
Didn't think that was a need to open a thread of its own, but this is disgusting... From the Olympics 2024 opening ceremony. I'm ok with anyone being what they want inside their own space,but the Olympics should be ashamed of themselves today! Being a Transgender should first be treated as a mental illness even before the thought of surgery is entertained, just for the safety of the person in question. But now any person can identify as whatever they want, and enter into whatever toilet they want.Its a disgrace,and a pure creation of the radical left. But for the grandest stage of them all,the Olympics games to endorse it is both a disgrace,along with disgusting to mankind. Keep politics and Wokie f**kweeds out of a special gathering of Elite athletes each four years. Do they know how many mentally ill people this s**t is creating from the next generation of youth.. x.com/9mm_smg/status/1816933990588383590?t=YOG1I5VkHgby33G_gsPNSg&s=19How this got the ok is..Unbelievable! I am always amazed that some people get so upset with other people's gender or sexuality. I was born male, found myself attracted to women and now, on the home strait, I am still male and still find women attractive. Along this road I have met a lot of men who either would rather be in the body of a woman who were attracted to men. Similarly I have met a lot of women who would perhaps prefer to being in the body of a male and were attracted to women. More than a few were, or became, friends, stayed with my wife and I as guests on many occasions, sometimes with their partners. Never thought of any those friends as having a mental illness (not in regard to gender and sexuality at least). Personally I find that claim insulting and pretty disgusting. I long ago concluded that those who shout loudest on this topic display signs of insecurity with their own gender and sexuality. That last line I find offensive to, and just stupid mud slinging by yourself in order to prove a non point,and I find that offensive and disgusting myself to question my sexuality for expressing my opinion here! Childish Mr Accuser. As for the comment of it being a mental illness..well 30 years ago,even 20 years ago we treated it as such before we started giving out different genders "willy nilly" ( no pun intended ).. in the last decade. Its only become the new "woke thing" to come out as transgender in the huge numbers that has happened over the last 5 years or just over, so don't pretend it hasn't been. Why is that you have to ask..? I want to clarify...I've got no problem with anyone wanting to be anything they they want to be sexually ( Ive also have had gay friends myself, which isn't the subject here btw)..but don't say it's ok for trans people to go out walking naked on pride marches, urinating on each other, wearing nappys, thinking it's ok to be born male..that was born with a penis, and most likely still has one...but due to that man feeling like a female today that it's ok to use a female toilet, and for the rest of us to be ok with it, as its not! The first port of call is to have psychosocial evaluation, over several years.After that if the doctor and yourself believe operating into regendering is the next step, I'm completely fine with that. The fact is that if you are born a male, then you will always be a male due to genetics and science.But if you have gone through that process I will respect you and call you a woman but not a female as it's not true. My issue is most of the "transgenders" today don't.Almost all are from liberal, left side backgrounds and most do it for an identity as they lack it otherwise due to social pressure,and they want attention. I find it disgusting that the Olympics, the media and press pump it down our throats,and educated it at our schools on our young children. The Olympics should be about sports expression, not a sexual expression like last night.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 27, 2024 5:37:48 GMT
x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1816996421528125573?t=FgRKk7IO4bV59DRtUbPUJw&s=19The Olympics mocking the Christian faith...they wouldn't dare do that to Islam.. I'm no fan of Islam, but I have to respect that they would straight up confront these issues with an iron fist and have a iron will to defend their belief and the Quran, and won't not have let that happen to their faith on worldwide TV. We in the west,and are ok with the wokie generations to just mock and take the piss out of our major religion... Disgusting. The Life of Brian. As an atheist I have no time for any religion, but I do respect the rights of others to believe in the ridiculous concept of a god. Comedy is a very useful tool to expose the contradictions and rank stupidity of faith, blind faith that is. Thing is,if a Islamic version of Life of Brian was made ( great film ),eg 'The Life Of Abdul' there would be bloody violence. It may never get made,due to Muhammads tantrums. Charlie Hebdow.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 5:47:12 GMT
x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1816996421528125573?t=FgRKk7IO4bV59DRtUbPUJw&s=19The Olympics mocking the Christian faith...they wouldn't dare do that to Islam.. I'm no fan of Islam, but I have to respect that they would straight up confront these issues with an iron fist and have a iron will to defend their belief and the Quran, and won't not have let that happen to their faith on worldwide TV. We in the west,and are ok with the wokie generations to just mock and take the piss out of our major religion... Disgusting. The Life of Brian. As an atheist I have no time for any religion, but I do respect the rights of others to believe in the ridiculous concept of a god. Comedy is a very useful tool to expose the contradictions and rank stupidity of faith, blind faith that is. I agree, I'm agnostic/borderline Christian myself.I know there is something, I feel it and it makes sense that there is, but until I see proof I have one toe on the fence, even though I admit I'm 99% a believer of God/ afterlife. As for taking the piss out of religion, I'm again in agreement with you as I am ok with taking the piss out of it along with anything else, within reason. But my point is that this would NEVER had be done about Islam last night.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 27, 2024 6:13:11 GMT
I hope the uniting spirit of sport,now comes to the fore at the Paris Olympics.
The far Left have been accused of disrupting the transport system.
The Israeli football team booed.
Was the Israeli team booed in the stadium parade?
I hope the security teams are very much switched on , I won't be surprised if there are terrorist attacks.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 6:45:11 GMT
I hope the uniting spirit of sport,now comes to the fore at the Paris Olympics. The far Left have been accused of disrupting the transport system. The Israeli football team booed. Was the Israeli team booed in the stadium parade? I hope the security teams are very much switched on , I won't be surprised if there are terrorist attacks. I sadly believe there will be and that we will sadly be talking about it here over the next 2 weeks as Hamas have called and announced it already.That along with how deep radical Islam is inbeded in France thenI hold not much faith of anything otherwise.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 27, 2024 6:55:31 GMT
I've only had a very quick look,it seemed to be a blue bloke,being presented at the 'Last Supper' ,as food.
His scrotum sack was painted blue too.
We've had face painting at Rovers for a few years now,could painting our ball bags blue and white Quarters,have them hanging out,displayed for all to see, catch on?
Put you off your pasty would'nt it.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 7:06:55 GMT
I've only had a very quick look,it seemed to be a blue bloke,being presented at the 'Last Supper' ,as food. His scrotum sack was painted blue too. We've had face painting at Rovers for a few years now,could painting our ball bags blue and white Quarters,have them hanging out,displayed for all to see, catch on? Put you off your pasty would'nt it. I saw that....my God.𤨠So which testical do I paint white.. (" Oh s**te..,I forgot the PC area that the Mem is based in within Horfield...I meant to say "Blue"..đ Is it ok to paint my left ball " Wh*te"đą and the right one Blue...?đ The right one is my favorite..
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Post by oldie on Jul 27, 2024 8:25:53 GMT
You two, honestly. Do you really not know what actually happened with that film?
"The idea of a biblical parody made film producers nervous. âOriginally, we had the money from EMI for this film,â recalled Terry Gilliam. âIt was, I believe, the Thursday before the crew was leaving [to start filming], we got the news that EMI had pulled out because apparently [film executive] Lord Bernie Delfont had finally got around to reading the script, decided it was blasphemous, and didnât want his company to be involved in it ⌠Everything was canceled.â
"As soon as it was released, Life of Brian was besieged by religious fundamentalists. Orthodox rabbis were the first to protest, objecting to a prayer shawl worn by John Cleese at the start of the film.
âIt was the first scene to raise any protests,â said Terry Jones. âWe always thought we were going to get protests from Christians, but in fact the first lot of protests we got [were] from the ⌠Rabbinical Association of New York"
"The movie was banned in Shreveport, Alabama, outlawed in Alexandria, Louisiana, and harassed in South Carolina."
On a BBC 2 talk show at the time, with Cheese, Palin, Malcolm Muggeridge
This was Muggeridge
"âI would simply point out to you,â Muggeridge told them, âthat if you care about what constitutes what we call Western Civilizationâwhich now is probably coming to an endâand you were to consider the role thatâs been played in that by this ⌠piece of buffoonery, you would have a certain humility ⌠This is such a tenth-rate film ⌠and the lampooning of His death, which is the most disgraceful part of the whole thing ⌠and all youâve done is to make a lot of people on a cross singing a music hall song. I mean, it is so disgusting.â
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"Life of Brian was banned in Ireland. It was banned in Norway. And it was suppressed throughout the United Kingdom. Screenings were forbidden in Birkenhead, Brynmawr, Cornwall, East Devon, Haverfordwest, Harrogate, Pontypridd, Swansea, and Whitehaven"
Freedoms are hard won, including the freedom to be the person you truly are
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 8:32:50 GMT
You two, honestly. Do you really not know what actually happened with that film? "The idea of a biblical parody made film producers nervous. âOriginally, we had the money from EMI for this film,â recalled Terry Gilliam. âIt was, I believe, the Thursday before the crew was leaving [to start filming], we got the news that EMI had pulled out because apparently [film executive] Lord Bernie Delfont had finally got around to reading the script, decided it was blasphemous, and didnât want his company to be involved in it ⌠Everything was canceled.â "As soon as it was released, Life of Brian was besieged by religious fundamentalists. Orthodox rabbis were the first to protest, objecting to a prayer shawl worn by John Cleese at the start of the film. âIt was the first scene to raise any protests,â said Terry Jones. âWe always thought we were going to get protests from Christians, but in fact the first lot of protests we got [were] from the ⌠Rabbinical Association of New York" "The movie was banned in Shreveport, Alabama, outlawed in Alexandria, Louisiana, and harassed in South Carolina." On a BBC 2 talk show at the time, with Cheese, Palin, Malcolm Muggeridge This was Muggeridge "âI would simply point out to you,â Muggeridge told them, âthat if you care about what constitutes what we call Western Civilizationâwhich now is probably coming to an endâand you were to consider the role thatâs been played in that by this ⌠piece of buffoonery, you would have a certain humility ⌠This is such a tenth-rate film ⌠and the lampooning of His death, which is the most disgraceful part of the whole thing ⌠and all youâve done is to make a lot of people on a cross singing a music hall song. I mean, it is so disgusting.â And "Life of Brian was banned in Ireland. It was banned in Norway. And it was suppressed throughout the United Kingdom. Screenings were forbidden in Birkenhead, Brynmawr, Cornwall, East Devon, Haverfordwest, Harrogate, Pontypridd, Swansea, and Whitehaven" Freedoms are hard won, including the freedom to be the person you truly are What do you mean you two honestly? I've not brought up that film on here,and infact Ive never heard of it,so please don't include me in something "else" that is a fragment of your imagination on here Mr Accuser. The point I brought up about last night is When Inclusion-ism becomes Exclusion-ism. This is no longer the Olympics, this is the Woke-lympics. 3% of the worlds population identify as gay and were represented with 97% of the narrative. Looks and sounds a lot like Bigotry and mass grooming to me that the rest of us just have to accept.
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Post by oldie on Jul 27, 2024 9:15:17 GMT
You two, honestly. Do you really not know what actually happened with that film? "The idea of a biblical parody made film producers nervous. âOriginally, we had the money from EMI for this film,â recalled Terry Gilliam. âIt was, I believe, the Thursday before the crew was leaving [to start filming], we got the news that EMI had pulled out because apparently [film executive] Lord Bernie Delfont had finally got around to reading the script, decided it was blasphemous, and didnât want his company to be involved in it ⌠Everything was canceled.â "As soon as it was released, Life of Brian was besieged by religious fundamentalists. Orthodox rabbis were the first to protest, objecting to a prayer shawl worn by John Cleese at the start of the film. âIt was the first scene to raise any protests,â said Terry Jones. âWe always thought we were going to get protests from Christians, but in fact the first lot of protests we got [were] from the ⌠Rabbinical Association of New York" "The movie was banned in Shreveport, Alabama, outlawed in Alexandria, Louisiana, and harassed in South Carolina." On a BBC 2 talk show at the time, with Cheese, Palin, Malcolm Muggeridge This was Muggeridge "âI would simply point out to you,â Muggeridge told them, âthat if you care about what constitutes what we call Western Civilizationâwhich now is probably coming to an endâand you were to consider the role thatâs been played in that by this ⌠piece of buffoonery, you would have a certain humility ⌠This is such a tenth-rate film ⌠and the lampooning of His death, which is the most disgraceful part of the whole thing ⌠and all youâve done is to make a lot of people on a cross singing a music hall song. I mean, it is so disgusting.â And "Life of Brian was banned in Ireland. It was banned in Norway. And it was suppressed throughout the United Kingdom. Screenings were forbidden in Birkenhead, Brynmawr, Cornwall, East Devon, Haverfordwest, Harrogate, Pontypridd, Swansea, and Whitehaven" Freedoms are hard won, including the freedom to be the person you truly are What do you mean you two honestly? I've not brought up that film on here,and infact Ive never heard of it,so please don't include me in something "else" that is a fragment of your imagination on here Mr Accuser. The point I brought up about last night is When Inclusion-ism becomes Exclusion-ism. This is no longer the Olympics, this is the Woke-lympics. 3% of the worlds population identify as gay and were represented with 97% of the narrative. Looks and sounds a lot like Bigotry and mass grooming to me that the rest of us just have to accept. You brought Islam into it and I quoted the history of a film that was critical of Christianity through humour. You do appear to lose the continuity of what you say. Btw, the very fact that you had never even heard of what was one of the funniest and, at the time, most controversial films in British Film making history, speaks volumes. Stanley Kubrick/Sam Peckinpah films perhaps? Both from the 1970s
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Post by trymer on Jul 27, 2024 9:47:09 GMT
Didn't think that was a need to open a thread of its own, but this is disgusting... From the Olympics 2024 opening ceremony. I'm ok with anyone being what they want inside their own space,but the Olympics should be ashamed of themselves today! Being a Transgender should first be treated as a mental illness even before the thought of surgery is entertained, just for the safety of the person in question. But now any person can identify as whatever they want, and enter into whatever toilet they want.Its a disgrace,and a pure creation of the radical left. But for the grandest stage of them all,the Olympics games to endorse it is both a disgrace,along with disgusting to mankind. Keep politics and Wokie f**kweeds out of a special gathering of Elite athletes each four years. Do they know how many mentally ill people this s**t is creating from the next generation of youth.. x.com/9mm_smg/status/1816933990588383590?t=YOG1I5VkHgby33G_gsPNSg&s=19How this got the ok is..Unbelievable! Personally I find that claim insulting and pretty disgusting. I long ago concluded that those who shout loudest on this topic display signs of insecurity with their own gender and sexuality. Oh dear you are offended yet again,you seem to spend half your life finding things insulting,disgusting,offensive,racist,mysoginistic etc etc it must emotionally exhausting for you. Hmm your second point here,is it only this "topic" that your theory applies to ? you shout loudest about mysoginism and racism does that mean that you are actually a woman hating racist bigot ?
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Post by trymer on Jul 27, 2024 9:48:48 GMT
x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1816996421528125573?t=FgRKk7IO4bV59DRtUbPUJw&s=19The Olympics mocking the Christian faith...they wouldn't dare do that to Islam.. I'm no fan of Islam, but I have to respect that they would straight up confront these issues with an iron fist and have a iron will to defend their belief and the Quran, and won't not have let that happen to their faith on worldwide TV. We in the west,and are ok with the wokie generations to just mock and take the piss out of our major religion... Disgusting. The Life of Brian. As an atheist I have no time for any religion, but I do respect the rights of others to believe in the ridiculous concept of a god. Comedy is a very useful tool to expose the contradictions and rank stupidity of faith, blind faith that is. I like a good laugh too,when I see some bloke with a beard wearing heels and a dress I nearly p1ss myself laughing.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 9:54:46 GMT
What do you mean you two honestly? I've not brought up that film on here,and infact Ive never heard of it,so please don't include me in something "else" that is a fragment of your imagination on here Mr Accuser. The point I brought up about last night is When Inclusion-ism becomes Exclusion-ism. This is no longer the Olympics, this is the Woke-lympics. 3% of the worlds population identify as gay and were represented with 97% of the narrative. Looks and sounds a lot like Bigotry and mass grooming to me that the rest of us just have to accept. You brought Islam into it and I quoted the history of a film that was critical of Christianity through humour. You do appear to lose the continuity of what you say. Btw, the very fact that you had never even heard of what was one of the funniest and, at the time, most controversial films in British Film making history, speaks volumes. Stanley Kubrick/Sam Peckinpah films perhaps? Both from the 1970s You are delusional at times on here, honestly in the way that you try to rearrange events once you are called out lying about them. I brought up Islam correct, in regards of how IMHO they would not have accepted what happened last night by mocking their faith and that the powers that would be wouldn't have even tried it with the Islamic faith. You and basel had a conversation about this film not me,I said nothing about it so you adding my to something that I never said a word on...the Film that is. I was born in 1981,so there are many films that I haven't watched so that's a useless jab by saying that it "speaks volumes"... Sir, Your arrogance shows little to no depth.
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Post by oldie on Jul 27, 2024 9:56:04 GMT
 Personally I find that claim insulting and pretty disgusting. I long ago concluded that those who shout loudest on this topic display signs of insecurity with their own gender and sexuality. Oh dear you are offended yet again,you seem to spend half your life finding things insulting,disgusting,offensive,racist,mysoginistic etc etc it must emotionally exhausting for you. Hmm your second point here,is it only this "topic" that your theory applies to ?  you shout loudest about mysoginism and racism does that mean that you are actually a woman hating racist bigot ? If you would like to rephrase your question (if there is one) in English I will do my best to answer.
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Post by oldie on Jul 27, 2024 9:59:49 GMT
You brought Islam into it and I quoted the history of a film that was critical of Christianity through humour. You do appear to lose the continuity of what you say. Btw, the very fact that you had never even heard of what was one of the funniest and, at the time, most controversial films in British Film making history, speaks volumes. Stanley Kubrick/Sam Peckinpah films perhaps? Both from the 1970s You are delusional at times on here, honestly in the way that you try to rearrange events once you are called out lying about them. I brought up Islam correct, in regards of how IMHO they would not have accepted what happened last night by mocking their faith and that the powers that would be wouldn't have even tried it with the Islamic faith. You and basel had a conversation about this film not me,I said nothing about it so you adding my to something that I never said a word on...the Film that is. I was born in 1981,so there are many films that I haven't watched so that's a useless jab by saying that it "speaks volumes"... Sir, Your arrogance shows little to no depth. "I brought up Islam correct, in regards of how IMHO they would not have accepted what happened last night by mocking their faith and that the powers that would be wouldn't have even tried it with the Islamic faith." Exactly And I gave you an example of what happened when a mocking film on Christianity was made, and Christians did not accept it and tried to ban it. Like I said, twas you who brought religion into it
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 10:06:49 GMT
You are delusional at times on here, honestly in the way that you try to rearrange events once you are called out lying about them. I brought up Islam correct, in regards of how IMHO they would not have accepted what happened last night by mocking their faith and that the powers that would be wouldn't have even tried it with the Islamic faith. You and basel had a conversation about this film not me,I said nothing about it so you adding my to something that I never said a word on...the Film that is. I was born in 1981,so there are many films that I haven't watched so that's a useless jab by saying that it "speaks volumes"... Sir, Your arrogance shows little to no depth. "I brought up Islam correct, in regards of how IMHO they would not have accepted what happened last night by mocking their faith and that the powers that would be wouldn't have even tried it with the Islamic faith." Exactly And I gave you an example of what happened when a mocking film on Christianity was made, and Christians did not accept it and tried to ban it. Like I said, twas you who brought religion into it Yes as I've said above I know I brought Islam into it before you even referenced this film.But I said nothing about the film which you seemed to believe that I had an opinion on,even though I've never seen it by you using the words - 'honestly you too'... Would you like me to dumb it down anymore than this for you?
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