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Jun 30, 2024 15:04:14 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jun 30, 2024 15:04:14 GMT
I have no idea what you are talking about. Unlike you I quoted from the top page of the report So,how many people participated in this survey you're using as strong evidence most Britons see Brexit as a mistake? Oldie.
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Jun 30, 2024 15:17:27 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jun 30, 2024 15:17:27 GMT
No it's not, they are reporting OUR opinion. "As of May 2024, 55 percent of people in Great Britain thought that it was wrong to leave the European Union, compared with 31 percent who thought it was the right decision." Ummmmm www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/No Oldie, it's a opinion, not news. The clue is in your links name isn't it đđđđ Semantics Nobby, WSJ is quoting a poll, not expressing their opinion as such. Although, given their market they are most likely numerate so they will be able to interpret the figures
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Jun 30, 2024 16:16:09 GMT
Post by trymer on Jun 30, 2024 16:16:09 GMT
The AfD have been having their agm in Essen this weekend. Up to 10,000 "demonstrators" have also gone to Essen and have caused violence against the Police,some of these "demonstrators" have been arrested. One group of these heroes attacked 2 Police officers and kicked them in the head when they had been knocked them to the floor,Police have taken videos so lets hope that some of these scumbags will be getting their doors kicked in at 4 in the morning.
The only good thing about this weekend is that everyone can see who the anti democratic violent fascists actually are....
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Post by trymer on Jun 30, 2024 18:46:50 GMT
BBC reporting that NR got 34% in French election...calling them 'hard right' 'populist' 'far right'....didnt call Macron 'unpopulist' though.
All across the continent of Europe people have had enough of the staid centrist parties and their professional politicians....change.
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Jun 30, 2024 18:58:26 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jun 30, 2024 18:58:26 GMT
BBC reporting that NR got 34% in French election...calling them 'hard right' 'populist' 'far right'....didnt call Macron 'unpopulist' though. All across the continent of Europe people have had enough of the staid centrist parties and their professional politicians....change. Yeah Let's have a bunch of unprofessional charlatans, got to be better, right? Btw, what exactly is an "unpopular"? đ€đ€
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Jun 30, 2024 19:40:28 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jun 30, 2024 19:40:28 GMT
So,how many people participated in this survey you're using as strong evidence most Britons see Brexit as a mistake? Oldie.
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Jun 30, 2024 21:35:36 GMT
Post by bluetornados on Jun 30, 2024 21:35:36 GMT
The scene at the National Rally's headquarters..by Rob Young, Reporting from HĂ©nin-Beaumont.ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/30/4c82aeb2-e932-474f-b7dc-06fcc19d8d91.jpgAs the first vote projections appeared on two large TV screens here, the crowd of National Rally supporters erupted. Hundreds of people who back the party leapt to their feet, cheered and hugged each other. The party's projected first place in the legislative elections is a historic moment for the party and for France. The champagne, which was already flowing here before the projection was released, has continued to do so since. Chants of âMarine! Marine!â filled this community centre in a small town in the north east of France. Leader Marine Le Pen appeared on a stage, the French tricolor behind her, and said she had been returned to the National Assembly to represent this district, for the first time in the first round without the need for a run-off contest. Another first. After she addressed her adoring supporters, they waived the French flag and sang the national anthem, the Marseillaise. The main lights in this hall are off, there are coloured spotlights shining, and it has the aroma and high energy music of a nightclub. This is a party partying. But tomorrow there is more campaigning to do if they are to secure the parliamentary majority that Marine Le Pen wants and, she says, that France needs. France's far right National Rally (RN) has made big gains in the first round of the parliamentary election, exit polls suggest Celebrating her party's early success, Marine Le Pen says "democracy has spoken" as she declares President Emmanuel Macron's camp "practically wiped out" For his part, Macron is calling for a broad alliance against RN ahead of next week's second round His prime minister has warned that the far right is "at the gates of power", saying where candidates from his camp came third they should not stand in next week's round Voter turnout in Sunday's poll soared - the highest in a parliamentary election since 1997 The snap parliamentary election was called by Macron following his party's defeat by the RN at the European elections earlier this month Only candidates who manage to win more than 12.5% of the vote will go through to the next round
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Jul 1, 2024 6:54:50 GMT
Post by Nobbygas on Jul 1, 2024 6:54:50 GMT
BBC reporting that NR got 34% in French election...calling them 'hard right' 'populist' 'far right'....didnt call Macron 'unpopulist' though. All across the continent of Europe people have had enough of the staid centrist parties and their professional politicians....change. Yeah Let's have a bunch of unprofessional charlatans, got to be better, right? Btw, what exactly is an "unpopular"? đ€đ€ As opposed to professional charlatans eh?
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Jul 1, 2024 7:02:28 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jul 1, 2024 7:02:28 GMT
2010 respondents. Survey time period January 2020 to May 2024. 18 plus age group. Can't argue with that Oldie,absolutely conclusive proof! đ I have no idea what you are talking about. Unlike you I quoted from the top page of the report It's extremely weak evidence you offered is'nt it. Fraudulent and really quite pathetic.
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Jul 1, 2024 7:10:07 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jul 1, 2024 7:10:07 GMT
I have no idea what you are talking about. Unlike you I quoted from the top page of the report It's extremely weak evidence you offered is'nt it. Fraudulent and really quite pathetic. You have the link, tell us why you say that
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Jul 1, 2024 7:11:14 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jul 1, 2024 7:11:14 GMT
Yeah Let's have a bunch of unprofessional charlatans, got to be better, right? Btw, what exactly is an "unpopular"? đ€đ€ As opposed to professional charlatans eh? Perhaps But Farage and co are confirmed as such
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Jul 1, 2024 7:17:48 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jul 1, 2024 7:17:48 GMT
I have no idea what you are talking about. Unlike you I quoted from the top page of the report Maybe I've misunderstood, but I followed the link and as I could'nt see how many people were involved in this poll ( and you had neglected to say) , I went on the "more information" section. There I found only 2010 people took part,18 plus years age. Beg your pardon if I have misunderstood . Oldie. Already posted why i say/said that.
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Jul 1, 2024 7:22:09 GMT
Post by Nobbygas on Jul 1, 2024 7:22:09 GMT
As opposed to professional charlatans eh? Perhaps But Farage and co are confirmed as such Um...err....hang on, when did this switch to the Reform Party? You were referring to the French elections.
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Jul 1, 2024 7:31:33 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jul 1, 2024 7:31:33 GMT
Perhaps But Farage and co are confirmed as such Um...err....hang on, when did this switch to the Reform Party? You were referring to the French elections. You are right. In my defence I flew back in to the UK Saturday and fell ill with food poisoning for 12 hours. đ€ź
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Jul 1, 2024 17:19:55 GMT
Post by trymer on Jul 1, 2024 17:19:55 GMT
July 1st...anniversary of battle of Somme in 1916,on the first day 20,000 British servicemen died....not a mention of this on BBC radio 4 today.
LOTS of discussion with various French people about what might happen/what they think about National Rally winning big yesterday...reminded me of how the sky was going to fall in years ago when the freedom party got into power in Austria...or when Giorgio Meloni won in Italy....and look whats happenned since,everything is OK in fact Italy has their most stable government for years ! the most stable government in the G7 even...
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Jul 1, 2024 17:31:56 GMT
Post by trymer on Jul 1, 2024 17:31:56 GMT
What a week....Biden shown to be incoherent and rambling...Reform getting good polling numbers....NR winning big in France...Trumps supreme court news....its enough to make a liberal lefty sick as a Parrot....
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Jul 1, 2024 18:21:51 GMT
Post by bluetornados on Jul 1, 2024 18:21:51 GMT
July 1st...anniversary of battle of Somme in 1916,on the first day 20,000 British servicemen died....not a mention of this on BBC radio 4 today. LOTS of discussion with various French people about what might happen/what they think about National Rally winning big yesterday...reminded me of how the sky was going to fall in years ago when the freedom party got into power in Austria...or when Giorgio Meloni won in Italy....and look whats happenned since,everything is OK in fact Italy has their most stable government for years ! the most stable government in the G7 even... Yes, The 57,470 casualties suffered by the British, including 19,240 killed, were the worst in the history of the British Army. Most of the British casualties were suffered on the front between the AlbertâBapaume road and Gommecourt, which was the area where the principal German defensive effort was made. The battle became notable for the importance of air power and the first use of the tank in September but these were a product of new technology and proved unreliable.
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Jul 3, 2024 9:11:50 GMT
Post by Nobbygas on Jul 3, 2024 9:11:50 GMT
Interesting how Macron has once again alluded to "civil war" if the Right get elected in France. Is he saying that the minority Left will not accept the legitimate democratic vote?
Another interesting point. If either the Left or Right win the election, it will mean trouble for the EU.
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Jul 3, 2024 10:37:08 GMT
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 3, 2024 10:37:08 GMT
France politics attempts to block the far right.....The deadline for declarations ended Tuesday, with large numbers of left and centre candidates standing aside in order to try to block the far-right National Rally (RN).
Parties had till 18:00 local time (17:00 GMT) to register contenders for Sundayâs second round of parliamentary elections.
With no official list yet released, French media reported that between 214 and 218 third-placed contenders had pulled out of the race in their constituencies. It means there will now be around 108 three-way races, instead of just over 300.
The rest will be two-way run-offs, apart from in two constituencies where four candidates qualified.
Last Sundayâs first round produced a big victory for the party of Marine Le Pen, which - with allies - won around 33% of the vote.
A broad left-wing alliance came second, and President Emmanuel Macronâs centrists third.
But Ms Le Penâs chances of winning an outright majority in the 577-seat National Assembly have been dented by the blocking tactics of her partyâs enemies.
Where third-placed centre or left candidates pull out, the anti-RN vote is focused on a single candidate, making victory easier over the RN contender.
The leftwing New Popular Front (NPF) â which comprises everyone from centre-left social democrats to far-left anti-capitalists â issued instructions to all of its third-placed candidates to step down and let a centrist reap the anti-RN vote.
The NPF is thus helping two senior pro-Macron MPs â former prime minister Elisabeth Borne and Interior Minister GĂ©rald Darmanin â to win in their constituencies in Normandy and the north.
Conversely a pro-Macron candidate has stood down in order to help radical leftwinger François Ruffin defeat the RN candidate in the northern city of Amiens.
The RNâs 28 year-old president and hopeful for prime minister Jordan Bardella condemned these arrangements as the fruit of an âalliance of dishonourâ between parties that had until now been at each otherâs throats.
Instructions to candidates from Macronâs centrist bloc have been more ambiguous than the NPFâs.
Though Macron himself and Prime Minister Gabriel Attal have called for âno vote for the RNâ, some in his camp believe its far-left component makes the NPF equally unpalatable.
Senior figures like Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire and former prime minister Edouard Philippe â both originally from the centre-right â are refusing to issue instructions to vote systematically against the RN... interesting tactics afoot...
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Jul 3, 2024 17:41:13 GMT
Post by trymer on Jul 3, 2024 17:41:13 GMT
France politics attempts to block the far right.....The deadline for declarations ended Tuesday, with large numbers of left and centre candidates standing aside in order to try to block the far-right National Rally (RN). Parties had till 18:00 local time (17:00 GMT) to register contenders for Sundayâs second round of parliamentary elections. With no official list yet released, French media reported that between 214 and 218 third-placed contenders had pulled out of the race in their constituencies. It means there will now be around 108 three-way races, instead of just over 300. The rest will be two-way run-offs, apart from in two constituencies where four candidates qualified. Last Sundayâs first round produced a big victory for the party of Marine Le Pen, which - with allies - won around 33% of the vote. A broad left-wing alliance came second, and President Emmanuel Macronâs centrists third. But Ms Le Penâs chances of winning an outright majority in the 577-seat National Assembly have been dented by the blocking tactics of her partyâs enemies. Where third-placed centre or left candidates pull out, the anti-RN vote is focused on a single candidate, making victory easier over the RN contender. The leftwing New Popular Front (NPF) â which comprises everyone from centre-left social democrats to far-left anti-capitalists â issued instructions to all of its third-placed candidates to step down and let a centrist reap the anti-RN vote. The NPF is thus helping two senior pro-Macron MPs â former prime minister Elisabeth Borne and Interior Minister GĂ©rald Darmanin â to win in their constituencies in Normandy and the north. Conversely a pro-Macron candidate has stood down in order to help radical leftwinger François Ruffin defeat the RN candidate in the northern city of Amiens. The RNâs 28 year-old president and hopeful for prime minister Jordan Bardella condemned these arrangements as the fruit of an âalliance of dishonourâ between parties that had until now been at each otherâs throats. Instructions to candidates from Macronâs centrist bloc have been more ambiguous than the NPFâs. Though Macron himself and Prime Minister Gabriel Attal have called for âno vote for the RNâ, some in his camp believe its far-left component makes the NPF equally unpalatable. Senior figures like Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire and former prime minister Edouard Philippe â both originally from the centre-right â are refusing to issue instructions to vote systematically against the RN... interesting tactics afoot... When they play games like this it shows their contempt for democracy and voters....they should be careful,what will happen when people say that democracy is a waste of time ?
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