Cheshiregas
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Oct 10, 2024 10:08:04 GMT
Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 10, 2024 10:08:04 GMT
Sodomites? Interesting language. Homosexuals. Just for you Baldrick. The term 'sodomites' has used as an insult towards homosexuals for centuries, so I understand why baldrick questioned your usage. What are your thoughts on the LGBTQ+ community Bas, out of interest
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Oct 10, 2024 10:11:32 GMT
Post by trymer on Oct 10, 2024 10:11:32 GMT
Homosexuals. Just for you Baldrick. The term 'sodomites' has used as an insult towards homosexuals for centuries, so I understand why baldrick questioned your usage. What are your thoughts on the LGBTQ+ community Bas, out of interest Why is is LG ? I have heard lesbians referring to themselves as gay.
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Oct 10, 2024 11:01:48 GMT
Post by Nobbygas on Oct 10, 2024 11:01:48 GMT
The term 'sodomites' has used as an insult towards homosexuals for centuries, so I understand why baldrick questioned your usage. What are your thoughts on the LGBTQ+ community Bas, out of interest Why is is LG ? I have heard lesbians referring to themselves as gay. It's the '+' bit that I don't get! What is the difference between 'Queer' and 'Lesbian or Gay'? Seriously, I have no idea.
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Post by oldie on Oct 10, 2024 13:20:42 GMT
Why is is LG ?Β I have heard lesbians referring to themselves as gay. It's the '+' bit that I don't get! What is the difference between 'Queer' and 'Lesbian or Gay'? Seriously, I have no idea. I get some of it, but do not understand it totally. A couple of weeks ago I was interviewing in Cardiff and my co interviewer said to me "I think this candidate is trans" I suddenly realised I was not sure which pronoun to use when introduced. My co interviewer (who I have always presumed to be gay) told me to use "they". How the eff do you use "they" when addressing one person? So I stumbled and just said very nice to meet you. It's all a bit ridiculous, but I don't care enough to get wound up about it whilst recognising that I have been a character from "Life on Mars"
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Oct 10, 2024 13:26:10 GMT
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Post by baldrick on Oct 10, 2024 13:26:10 GMT
It's the '+' bit that I don't get! What is the difference between 'Queer' and 'Lesbian or Gay'? Seriously, I have no idea. I get some of it, but do not understand it totally. A couple of weeks ago I was interviewing in Cardiff and my co interviewer said to me "I think this candidate is trans" I suddenly realised I was not sure which pronoun to use when introduced. My co interviewer (who I have always presumed to be gay) told me to use "they". How the eff do you use "they" when addressing one person? So I stumbled and just said very nice to meet you. It's all a bit ridiculous, but I don't care enough to get wound up about it whilst recognising that I have been a character from "Life on Mars" Where you would say he or she, just use they.
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Oct 10, 2024 13:29:43 GMT
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Post by oldie on Oct 10, 2024 13:29:43 GMT
I get some of it, but do not understand it totally. A couple of weeks ago I was interviewing in Cardiff and my co interviewer said to me "I think this candidate is trans" I suddenly realised I was not sure which pronoun to use when introduced. My co interviewer (who I have always presumed to be gay) told me to use "they". How the eff do you use "they" when addressing one person? So I stumbled and just said very nice to meet you. It's all a bit ridiculous, but I don't care enough to get wound up about it whilst recognising that I have been a character from "Life on Mars" Where you would say he or she, just use they. Yes, I was patiently schooled afterwards. I get using "they" when discussing the person. But struggle other scenarios
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Oct 10, 2024 13:30:36 GMT
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Post by baldrick on Oct 10, 2024 13:30:36 GMT
Why is is LG ?Β I have heard lesbians referring to themselves as gay. It's the '+' bit that I don't get! What is the difference between 'Queer' and 'Lesbian or Gay'? Seriously, I have no idea. As I understand it, not much but some actively want to use it as some form of reclaiming the term queer, whilst others don't. The whole LGBTQ+ is an umbrella term covering many.
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Oct 10, 2024 13:31:30 GMT
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Post by baldrick on Oct 10, 2024 13:31:30 GMT
Where you would say he or she, just use they. Yes, I was patiently schooled afterwards. I get using "they" when discussing the person. But struggle other scenarios You'll get used to it. π
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oldie
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Post by oldie on Oct 10, 2024 13:34:42 GMT
Yes, I was patiently schooled afterwards. I get using "they" when discussing the person. But struggle other scenarios You'll get used to it. π Perhaps, if I live long enoughπ
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 10, 2024 13:35:05 GMT
Where you would say he or she, just use they. Yes, I was patiently schooled afterwards. I get using "they" when discussing the person. But struggle other scenarios I know where you are coming from Oldie. To use 'they' is just incorrect grammar isn't it, not that I'm an expert on that ! It would be easier to use 'it'.
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Oct 10, 2024 13:42:01 GMT
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Post by oldie on Oct 10, 2024 13:42:01 GMT
Yes, I was patiently schooled afterwards. I get using "they" when discussing the person. But struggle other scenarios I know where you are coming from Oldie. To use 'they' is just incorrect grammar isn't it, not that I'm an expert on that ! It would be easier to use 'it'. π My brother, who is a complete reprobate, worked for Arsenal FC a few years back (yes I know) and he was sent an email stating that all emails from a date stated onwards MUST contain the authors choice of pronoun. I so wish they hadn't done that. He said he wanted to be called "IT" They said you can't do that and try again He suggested "THING" That was rejected and he was warned. So it went on. He left a couple of months later
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 10, 2024 14:06:28 GMT
I know where you are coming from Oldie. To use 'they' is just incorrect grammar isn't it, not that I'm an expert on that ! It would be easier to use 'it'. π My brother, who is a complete reprobate, worked for Arsenal FC a few years back (yes I know) and he was sent an email stating that all emails from a date stated onwards MUST contain the authors choice of pronoun. I so wish they hadn't done that. He said he wanted to be called "IT" They said you can't do that and try again He suggested "THING" That was rejected and he was warned. So it went on. He left a couple of months later True story. I was asked in work what I wanted for my pronoun. I told them that I wanted to be called "motherf**ker". My perogative, my decision. They never asked me again.
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Oct 17, 2024 8:34:42 GMT
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Post by baldrick on Oct 17, 2024 8:34:42 GMT
Anyone enjoyed the Lake District? "Permit breaches should be reported to the Environment Agency, but United Utilities failed to do this for most of the discharges identified by the BBC between the start of 2021 and the end of 2023. In those three years, we found that United Utilities illegally pumped sewage into Windermere for 165 hours, of which at least 118 hours was not reported to the environmental regulator. We were able to calculate the volume of the sewage released because it was dumped into the lake using either one or two dedicated pumps, each of which operates at 240 litres per second. This means that between 143 million and 286 million litres was illegally dumped in the lake, depending how often both pumps were operating. United Utilities failed to report at least 102 million litres of that pollution." www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrj70dynk1o
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 17, 2024 8:49:10 GMT
Anyone enjoyed the Lake District? "Permit breaches should be reported to the Environment Agency, but United Utilities failed to do this for most of the discharges identified by the BBC between the start of 2021 and the end of 2023. In those three years, we found that United Utilities illegally pumped sewage into Windermere for 165 hours, of which at least 118 hours was not reported to the environmental regulator. We were able to calculate the volume of the sewage released because it was dumped into the lake using either one or two dedicated pumps, each of which operates at 240 litres per second. This means that between 143 million and 286 million litres was illegally dumped in the lake, depending how often both pumps were operating. United Utilities failed to report at least 102 million litres of that pollution." www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrj70dynk1oI go to Cornwall usually at least twice a month. After any heavy rain you don't go swimming in the sea because of the sewage discharges. The real issue here is that the water companies are not breaking the law. The laws in place have been put there by successive governments over the years. It's up to the politicians (lawmakers) to change the laws, and the punishments. First off, they can make a law where all sewage on the coast has to go through a pipeline that discharges ten miles out at sea. Next, they have to make any punishments for breaking the law very harsh. Monatary fines are good, but the water companies would rather pay the fines than pay for the solution. Penalties and punishment needs to be directed at the very people at the top of these organizations, and that goes for any company that pollutes the environment, not just water companies.
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