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My mother , late 80,s drinks a bottle of sherry a day , and chain smokes ( walls / ceilings are yellow ) & I can hardly breath after 5 mins in house , one of my 1/2 brothers refuses to enter the house
It’s a difficult one , she has a attitude of I’ll do what I want in what time she has left , I guess I get that
Should she be refused treatment , she fell against bedroom door the other week , fire brigade had to take door out to get to her , then taken to hospital , fractured wrist
I get where trymer is comming from , but where do you draw the line , should a 80+ age probably 1/2 cut pensioner of bern left where she fell , I’d say no , but my 1/2 brother would probably say yes

I think he does have a point , she’s your typical I’ll do what I want old person , she never stopped complaining about the damage the fire brigade did to her internal door , and not a good word to say about the hospital
You do wonder at times , I’d have helped her , but as I say 1/2 brother has washed his hands of it ( he’s a very posh house in londonand a dropped fag burnt his leather chair & apparently sherry ended up all over his carpet when she visited for Xmas 😂😂, apparently she didn’t even apologise, she got took home the next day , and hasn’t stopped moaning about him since 😂

A while back there was a woman on the radio who had cancer but her local NHS wouldnt pay for some drugs for her, it didnt seem roight to me as she had always had to pay National Insurance.

Got me thinking about George Best getting a liver transplant because he had abused himself through alcohol and even afterwards he still drank and even got done for drink driving (again) I know that alcoholism is a disease but at one time he had enough money to get treated for it.

Another bloke that I slightly knew  was an alcoholic,one time he was in hospital for a while,they thought he would lose his leg,after weeks he got out and was straigh back down the pub, he died a few months latter.

A few years ago I used to cut through Park row and past the BRI to get home,it was when they stopped smoking in hospitals,loads of patients used to stand out the front in their dressing gowns some with their drips !  having a fag ! they had surely been told not to, I think they have put a stop to that and so they should they looked like zombies in a horror film.

We all agreed (well apart from the nut job) that it was up to parents to show their children how to clean their teeth etc,surely this is the same ? individuals responsibility, if I had surgery and the Doctor told me not to take/do something any more I would take notice.

I think that’s why she’s refusing now to go into hospital , can’t chain smoke , drink her bottles of sherry
She’s my mum but her attitude would test the patience of a saint , my wife has a heart of gold , does everything for her & gets dogs abuse for chucking her month out of date fridge food ( she always goes to shop & replaces everything)
Mum said last time she came , what she doing n my kitchen , tell her to leave my food , mrs doesn’t want to go now
The couple next door cooked her a roast Sunday meal , then one week he brought her paper round , and she told him his wife’s cooking was crap ( I went round & apologised ) , then got shouted at by mum for apologising
So yea I’d always help her , but as I say I can see your point
I do remember getting a phone call from her saying get here he’s got a f**king knife ( stepdad ) , you couldn’t meet a nicer bloke , she’s my mum but a bloody nightmare , remember as a kid her often chucking bowls / plates at my dad , again a nicer bloke you couldn’t meet
One time she said we could sell our houses and buy one together , my mum but even I said not a chance

Southmead hospital should have been given more parking when it was rebuilt, the parking money should pay for a mini bus to take nurses home free of charge, or pay their bus fare if they prefer.

NHS nurses being investigated for ‘industrial-scale’ qualifications fraud
Scam involves more than 700 healthcare workers who used proxies to pass test in Nigeria enabling them to work in the UK
Denis Campbell Health policy editor
Wed 14 Feb 2024 07.00 GMT
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Hundreds of frontline NHS staff are treating patients despite being under investigation for their part in an alleged “industrial-scale” qualifications fraud.
More than 700 nurses are caught up in a potential scandal, which a former head of the Royal College of Nursing said could put NHS patients at risk.
The scam allegedly involves proxies impersonating nurses and taking a key test in Nigeria, which must be passed for them to become registered and allowed to work in the UK.
“It’s very, very worrying if … there’s an organisation that’s involving themselves in fraudulent activity, enabling nurses to bypass these tests, or if they are using surrogates to do exams for them because the implication is that we end up in the UK with nurses who aren’t competent,” said Peter Carter, the ex-chief executive of the RCN and ex-chair of three NHS trusts, calling it an “industrial-scale fraud”.
He praised the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC) for taking action against those involved “to protect the quality of care and patient safety and the reputation of nurses”.
Nurses coming to work in the UK must be properly qualified, given nurses’ role in administering drugs and intravenous infusions and responding to emergencies such as a cardiac arrest, Carter added.
Forty-eight of the nurses are already working as nurses in the NHS because the NMC is unable to rescind their admission to its register, which anyone wanting to work as a nurse or midwife in Britain has to be, unless directed to do so by an independent panel at a hearing. In the meantime, it has told them to retake the test to prove their skills are good enough to meet its standards but cannot suspend them.
The 48 are due to face individual hearings, starting in March, at which they will be asked to explain how they apparently took and passed the computer-based test (CBT) of numeracy and clinical knowledge taken at the Yunnik test centre in the city of Ibadan. At the hearings, a panel may direct the NMC to remove individuals from the register. The times recorded raised suspicions because they were among the fastest the nursing regulator had ever seen.
But the NMC is taking more direct action with a 669-strong second batch of Nigerian health staff – again mostly nurses, but also including fewer than five midwives – whose test results it has found were also obtained through fraud. Most of them have also already come to the UK, sources say.
However, they are in a different position to the 48 because they are thought to be mainly working as healthcare assistants in the NHS and care homes. That is because the NMC has not approved their applications to join its register while it continues to investigate widespread impersonation at the Yunnik test centre.
About 80 nurses from the 669 applicants have obtained a new CBT test and applied to join the NMC register, so they can start working in that role. However, the nursing regulator has banned almost all of them because it had “serious concerns” about their honesty and trustworthiness.
“This is because even with a new CBT there remains character concerns given what happened at Yunnik and what the data appeared to show about these individuals,” the NMC said.
Andrea Sutcliffe, the NMC’s chief executive and registrar, said it had taken necessarily robust action after Pearson VUE, which had a contract with the Yunnik test centre, alerted it last year to what she called “widespread fraudulent activity” in which a “proxy tester” posed as a nurse.
“This is the first time we’ve found evidence of widespread fraud at a test centre,” she said. It is the biggest-ever such fraud the NMC has come across, she added.
The deception at Yunnik has led to the NMC declaring the CBT test results apparently obtained by 1,955 Nigerian-trained health professionals to be invalid. All of them, even including the 1,238 about whom the regulator says it cannot prove fraud was involved, have been given three chances to resit the CBT test, or face expulsion or exclusion from the register.
“We have concerns that 48 people already on the register obtained their test result fraudulently. We’ll hold hearings where an independent panel will decide whether those individuals gained fraudulent entry to our register. If so, they’re likely to be removed from the register,” said Sutcliffe.
“There are 669 applicants to the register about whom we have the same fraud concerns. We’re reviewing each application carefully in line with our guidance on health and character. We’ve refused entry to the register for the vast majority of the 80 applications we’ve considered so far, and those individuals can appeal.”
The future of the 717 nurses remains unclear. The GMB union fears that those refused on to the NMC register will be sent back to Nigeria. It said nurses had been “exploited” in Nigeria, urged the NMC to let all those with suspect test results to be allowed to retake the test in the UK and said the health service needed their skills to help address the UK-wide shortage of nurses.
The GMB said two Nigerian women who are members had had their applications for NMC registration refused, despite insisting that their test results from Yunnik were legitimate. Both had then been dismissed by the private care home where they were working, until their status was established, and they now fear they will be deported to Nigeria with their families.
“Those in charge at this centre have exploited the hope of workers wanting to nurse in the UK and left our members in a desperate situation.
“The profession’s high standards of integrity must be enforced but these aspiring nurses were badly advised, firstly to enrol at this centre and then give questionable accounts of what happened there,” said Louise Gilmour, the GMB’s Scotland secretary.
“They should be given another chance and allowed to work if they pass the necessary tests in the UK.
“These are workers, mostly women, willing to uproot their lives and settle here to work in a health and social care service that is suffering a crisis in staff recruitment and retention.”
The NMC has stopped using 40 of the 800 test centres worldwide it used before the Yunnik fraud came to light, including Yunnik itself.
A Department of Health and Social Care spokesperson said: “We are aware of the Nursing and Midwifery Council’s (NMC) fraud investigations into nurses who passed their computer-based test in one centre in Nigeria.
“We are advised that the NMC is taking all necessary steps to ensure the integrity of its register and that patient safety is protected.”

This is on those who call for mass migration ,you’ve put peoples lives at risk for a few extra pounds , us sensible ones said train our own people but you put your thirst for ££££ first ,
shame on you , if any one looses there lives you remainiacs should be held accountable

No it’s 700 people who are working within the nhs who do not have the qualifications to do so , as you well know , your attitutude is a disgusting, hold your head in shame , people’s lives could well be lost , and your answer is cheap jibes , pathetic

"If the NHS are not recruiting with proper diligence then that is a scandal. That the UK has to recruit at all from much poorer communities is a scandal. Why is it we cannot attract our own people in to the profession?"

Many nurses trained in the UK for the NHS end up working abroad, Many work in the Middle East, with lots going to the US or Australia, which is one of the reasons that the NHS has to recruit from abroad. It's not a scandal, it's just the way it is.
I think we have to look at the Nurses Unions etc for the reduction in numbers applying to become a Nurse, with IMHO, one of the main factors being that now you have to have a University Degree to become a Nurse. I have friends who you could called 'Old School Nurses' who have worked as Nurses for many years, but in the current climate they wouldn't be able to get a job as a Nurse. The pool for applicants has been restricted.

I disagree. Why should it be free when they are then going to work abroad?