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Post by oldie on Jan 31, 2024 12:16:25 GMT
The labour shortage is not just confined to the UK. They have the same problems in Germany, especially in the building and bar/catering sectors. This is the result of the Covid crisis. and not Brexit. I was listening to a German political leader a couple of days ago and he was trying to counter the AfD argument. He mentioned that the Germans are losing upto a million people a year from the workforce due to normal demographics. He made the point that for economic reasons that's why they need immigration. I looked up a stat for the UK and the average birth rate per 2 adults is 1.5. So it appears here we are not replacing ourselves either. What we are struggling with is baby boomers like me living far to long, taking up housing, sucking the life out of health services and generally being a pain. But at least I still pay tax...ðŸ¤ðŸ¤ª |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 31, 2024 13:11:08 GMT
A poll? Seriously? You are aware that the Polling Industry in the UK has been in a terrible state for the last 15 years? You want an example? How many of the Polls predicted a Leave vote would win the Referendum? How many Polls predicted an 80 seat majority for the Tories? It all depends on the target audience for the Poll, where it was conducted, the way the questions were formed, the poll funders, the polls sampling methods. One thing you never see quoted is that every poll will announce their margin for error. You never see this being reported. Plus, the Poll Companies don't just declare the result of the poll, but they add in lot's of assumptions and variables. How about this. A Poll asks people if they think nuclear weapons are good for the world. The vast majority will san NO to that question. The Polls analysis will declare that a large majority of the public want nuclear weapons banned and that the UK should give them up, when that wasn't really what the question asked. In the USA it has been shown that their polling methods, using a sample of say 1,500 people, are highly accurate. The same however cannot be said of the UK polling companies. Yep, seriously 😳 Remind us all again, what were the polls saying before the Brexit Referendum? |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 31, 2024 13:18:28 GMT
The labour shortage is not just confined to the UK. They have the same problems in Germany, especially in the building and bar/catering sectors. This is the result of the Covid crisis. and not Brexit. I was listening to a German political leader a couple of days ago and he was trying to counter the AfD argument. He mentioned that the Germans are losing upto a million people a year from the workforce due to normal demographics. He made the point that for economic reasons that's why they need immigration. I looked up a stat for the UK and the average birth rate per 2 adults is 1.5. So it appears here we are not replacing ourselves either. What we are struggling with is baby boomers like me living far to long, taking up housing, sucking the life out of health services and generally being a pain. But at least I still pay tax...ðŸ¤ðŸ¤ª Why is there this thought process that demands that the population level should grow to provide enough workers to fill the vacancies? Hasn't anyone heard of automation, AI etc? How long before all lorries are self-driven, then there's no need for the thousands of lorry drivers. How long before every warehouse is automated? Put your mind to it and you'll see there are a lot of jobs that will soon cease to exist. This process is already well under way. There are many many jobs that are currently performed by humans that will switch in the near future, and even more so in the low pay sectors ! |
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Post by oldie on Jan 31, 2024 13:36:07 GMT
Remind us all again, what were the polls saying before the Brexit Referendum? That there were lunatics who could not articulate an opinion so they were disregarded. Unfortunately same lunatics had a right to vote and the barbarians were at the gate. Civilization took a backward step as a result. |
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Post by oldie on Jan 31, 2024 13:38:46 GMT
I was listening to a German political leader a couple of days ago and he was trying to counter the AfD argument. He mentioned that the Germans are losing upto a million people a year from the workforce due to normal demographics. He made the point that for economic reasons that's why they need immigration. I looked up a stat for the UK and the average birth rate per 2 adults is 1.5. So it appears here we are not replacing ourselves either. What we are struggling with is baby boomers like me living far to long, taking up housing, sucking the life out of health services and generally being a pain. But at least I still pay tax...ðŸ¤ðŸ¤ª Why is there this thought process that demands that the population level should grow to provide enough workers to fill the vacancies? Hasn't anyone heard of automation, AI etc? How long before all lorries are self-driven, then there's no need for the thousands of lorry drivers. How long before every warehouse is automated? Put your mind to it and you'll see there are a lot of jobs that will soon cease to exist. This process is already well under way. There are many many jobs that are currently performed by humans that will switch in the near future, and even more so in the low pay sectors ! Yep. But then remind yourself of the productivity levels in the UK...anyway it's not necessarily about growing the workforce, it's about keeping it stable |
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Post by oldie on Feb 1, 2024 16:31:11 GMT
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Post by ltdgas on Feb 4, 2024 7:11:19 GMT
Just over 8 yrs & no signs of rejoining yet , these polls claiming everyone want to rejoin are as much pie in the sky as the millions marching / will of the people ( that went well / 80 seat majority for the leave tory party
I listened to a phone in this morning on lbc , should we join a eu army as we apparently haven’t got one , not one caller said yes , it’s for the birds & Hilary benn , David lammy on what day you ask him to think we will rejoin
Have we had any marches lately to rejoin eu ? Guess even those millions realised it’s a waste of time
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Post by trymer on Feb 4, 2024 11:33:14 GMT
Just over 8 yrs & no signs of rejoining yet , these polls claiming everyone want to rejoin are as much pie in the sky as the millions marching / will of the people ( that went well / 80 seat majority for the leave tory party I listened to a phone in this morning on lbc , should we join a eu army as we apparently haven’t got one , not one caller said yes , it’s for the birds & Hilary benn , David lammy on what day you ask him to think we will rejoin Have we had any marches lately to rejoin eu ? Guess even those millions realised it’s a waste of time The rejoiners should join an EU army..'Anna Soubry volunteer division'....I wonder how many would join ?....I think that I know the answer. |
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Post by oldie on Feb 4, 2024 11:37:00 GMT
Just over 8 yrs & no signs of rejoining yet , these polls claiming everyone want to rejoin are as much pie in the sky as the millions marching / will of the people ( that went well / 80 seat majority for the leave tory party I listened to a phone in this morning on lbc , should we join a eu army as we apparently haven’t got one , not one caller said yes , it’s for the birds & Hilary benn , David lammy on what day you ask him to think we will rejoin Have we had any marches lately to rejoin eu ? Guess even those millions realised it’s a waste of time The rejoiners should join an EU army..'Anna Soubry volunteer division'....I wonder how many would join ?....I think that I know the answer. Go on, tell us😅 |
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Post by ltdgas on Feb 5, 2024 17:56:43 GMT
The rejoiners should join an EU army..'Anna Soubry volunteer division'....I wonder how many would join ?....I think that I know the answer. Go on, tell us😅 not a chance would any remainiacs join an army , they s**t themselves at the thought of standing on there own two feet when we said up yours to the eu 😂😂, I mean you can’t win a referendum against thick people , then Boris & the red wall handed you your asses on a plate in a election over brexit You couldn’t manage a piss up in a brewery never mind fight a bloody war , about all you remainiacs are capable of doing is stamping your little 2 year old feet on the floor , whilst floods of tears run down your cheeks , hilarious 😂😂 |
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Post by oldie on Feb 5, 2024 20:29:52 GMT
not a chance would any remainiacs join an army , they s**t themselves at the thought of standing on there own two feet when we said up yours to the eu 😂😂, I mean you can’t win a referendum against thick people , then Boris & the red wall handed you your asses on a plate in a election over brexit You couldn’t manage a piss up in a brewery never mind fight a bloody war , about all you remainiacs are capable of doing is stamping your little 2 year old feet on the floor , whilst floods of tears run down your cheeks , hilarious 😂😂 Christ on a bike |
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Post by ltdgas on Feb 8, 2024 14:31:49 GMT
Eu hits out at uk for strikes crackdown saying it breaks brexit agreement , they just don’t stop trying to control us , we’re a sovereign nation now , and remainiacs say we wernt imprisoned by them , more evidence of the controlling ways
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Post by oldie on Feb 8, 2024 15:58:25 GMT
Eu hits out at uk for strikes crackdown saying it breaks brexit agreement , they just don’t stop trying to control us , we’re a sovereign nation now , and remainiacs say we wernt imprisoned by them , more evidence of the controlling ways Which Brexit clause was that, exactly? |
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Post by trymer on Feb 8, 2024 16:31:52 GMT
Eu hits out at uk for strikes crackdown saying it breaks brexit agreement , they just don’t stop trying to control us , we’re a sovereign nation now , and remainiacs say we wernt imprisoned by them , more evidence of the controlling ways They've got some front with all the farmers protest going on all around Europe, as you say so controlling,yet Remainiacs want to go back in....dont want to join EU army though. I would be ****** off if Labour some how rejoined EU but imagine all the Remainiacs celebrating...and then the EU announce compulsory conscription to an EU army....I would be celebrating then !!! |
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Post by ltdgas on Feb 8, 2024 22:16:13 GMT
Eu hits out at uk for strikes crackdown saying it breaks brexit agreement , they just don’t stop trying to control us , we’re a sovereign nation now , and remainiacs say we wernt imprisoned by them , more evidence of the controlling ways Which Brexit clause was that, exactly? [br Google either eu / brexit , you can see it then you can fill your boots with all the uk falling apart because of brexit crap I’m stupid but even I can Google Brexit Eu Labour Conservatives Israel Ukraine Gb news Mature women Hot mums I’ll get my daughters boyfriend one day to show me how to do a link , but for now you’ll have to Google it if you want to see it |
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Post by ltdgas on Feb 8, 2024 22:36:20 GMT
Stick in - eu threatens uk over strikes
It’s all there , I’m not writing it all down , you can read it like I did
Eu bureaucrats reportedly could launch a formal dispute with the uk after goverment strike laws come into force , which they argue breach the brexit deal on workers rights
According to the telegraph officials in Brussels have expressed concerns Britain could be breaching the terms of the free trade agreement ( fta ) with minimum service level rules
You can read the rest oldie ,
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Post by ltdgas on Feb 8, 2024 22:38:50 GMT
The point is there meddling in our country again , if the law is wrong it should be sorted out in our courts , not in Brussels
Time they got told to shove there laws , reform have said that’s exactly what theyl do
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Post by oldie on Feb 9, 2024 10:37:29 GMT
The point is there meddling in our country again , if the law is wrong it should be sorted out in our courts , not in Brussels Time they got told to shove there laws , reform have said that’s exactly what theyl do This really makes me laugh. So, as a Sovereign State, we enter into a Trade Treaty. Then we complain when the other party to that Treaty demands we stick to the terms we freely signed up to. In addition, Ltd complains bitterly that the use of migrants in the workforce has degraded the Terms & Conditions of the existing workforce. Then complains when a party to the Treaty we signed demands that we DO NOT do exactly that, degrade Ts&C's. It really is laughable, apart from the bit where stupid voting decisions predicated upon irrational analysis affects everyone negatively. Dear oh dear. |
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Post by ltdgas on Feb 10, 2024 11:26:32 GMT
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Post by oldie on Feb 10, 2024 12:01:34 GMT
So You have learned how to post a link, and lo and behold, it's all GB News...😂😂 The link you posted just confirms my point |
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