kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 5, 2023 9:17:11 GMT
I just hope you are right. Now is the time for a complete reset. The club has been trashed for the last three years by a kid who keeps remodeling his train set and it still doesn't work properly. Absolutely. This is why a hobbyist should not run any FC. We need more and true football people in the game. To think people gave NH so much bile, me being one, yet this guy more than trebled our yearly debts and has changed tack so many times. I just hope the new guy has solid and coherent plans and maybe makes us self sustainable, stop laughing at the back.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 5, 2023 9:20:13 GMT
I'd like to see Tony Pulis come in whilst we retain the back room staff. He has leadership qualities, has a long history in the game, ticks the 'one of us' box and is not with any other team. Not a bad shout actually but IF Barton gets a job then will his mates follow him ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2023 9:45:42 GMT
Not a bad shout actually but IF Barton gets a job then will his mates follow him ? Good people that came under Barton are welcome to remain, but I wouldn't be working to hard to keep them: if they do want to follow him, good riddance.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 5, 2023 11:45:06 GMT
Not a bad shout actually but IF Barton gets a job then will his mates follow him ? Good people that came under Barton are welcome to remain, but I wouldn't be working too here hard to keep them: if they do want to follow him, good riddance. Where do you draw the line between good and bad people? Is it a set of right and wrongs we can all agree with and share? I presume you don’t mean their football related skills alone. Gerry Francis was a thug, ditto Pearson who has just left City, ditto Sir Alex Ferguson, would you have all three in the “boycott” column? That’s thugism that could summon a cancelled sticker, then we have Barton supporting “friends with Hamas Corbyn”, and Di Cannio with fascist salutes and tattoos (which incidentally are illegal in Italy, though that might change soon) would you draw a line on Tatts that break the law? A Hamas loving manager? Anyone who’s done time in jail? Or any sanction for betting on football? or who’s had extra marital affairs? Someone who tweets “JK Rowling is wrong on Transgender”? They are here to manage us based on football skills and knowledge, where do we draw a line on their other characteristics, views and activities?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2023 11:50:52 GMT
I just meant good people to employ. The quality of character and the ability to achieve success are both necessary in almost all employment. You've got a right bee in your bonnet about 'boycotts', but this isn't the story you seem to think it is, and if you had employed better people in Rome you might have been a half-decent custodian of the empire.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 5, 2023 12:03:32 GMT
I just meant good people to employ. The quality of character and the ability to achieve success are both necessary in almost all employment. You've got a right bee in your bonnet about 'boycotts', but this isn't the story you seem to think it is, and if you had employed better people in Rome you might have been a half-decent custodian of the empire. Well, clearly. Two and half thousand years later I still struggle to know what is meant by “good and bad people” to employ. They built me a wonderful sewage pipe - should I have been paying attention to the tats on their bodies, and their Twitter account? maybe this is sailing close to the “story I seem to think it is” where we need to strap ourselves down so not respond to siren voices.
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Post by syg on Nov 5, 2023 12:13:22 GMT
Good people that came under Barton are welcome to remain, but I wouldn't be working too here hard to keep them: if they do want to follow him, good riddance. Where do you draw the line between good and bad people? Is it a set of right and wrongs we can all agree with and share? I presume you don’t mean their football related skills alone. Gerry Francis was a thug, ditto Pearson who has just left City, ditto Sir Alex Ferguson, would you have all three in the “boycott” column? That’s thugism that could summon a cancelled sticker, then we have Barton supporting “friends with Hamas Corbyn”, and Di Cannio with fascist salutes and tattoos (which incidentally are illegal in Italy, though that might change soon) would you draw a line on Tatts that break the law? A Hamas loving manager? Anyone who’s done time in jail? Or any sanction for betting on football? or who’s had extra marital affairs? Someone who tweets “JK Rowling is wrong on Transgender”? They are here to manage us based on football skills and knowledge, where do we draw a line on their other characteristics, views and activities? All these moral arguments make me laugh. I think if we knew everybody employed by the clubs we support we would find a good reason to end the relationship. I use to work in a bookies frequented by Brian tinnion What an absolute tosser, one of the rudest unpleasant people I've ever met, I was grateful he was at city as if he had been at rovers I would have stopped going
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 5, 2023 13:52:18 GMT
I'd like to see Tony Pulis come in whilst we retain the back room staff. He has leadership qualities, has a long history in the game, ticks the 'one of us' box and is not with any other team. Not a bad shout actually but IF Barton gets a job then will his mates follow him ? That's a very big IF. I back everyone 100% who is currently involved in the coaching set-up at BRFC. And I hope they all stay because we need stability.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Nov 5, 2023 14:56:15 GMT
Think Whelan might be a good character to have around as he has always struck me as a consumate professional and potentially could be a manager in the making. The rest I’m not so sure about. Interesting that Bond is back at least for a bit. He seemed to sort our defence out last time here and also appears to be well liked.
Ultimately new manager should have a say in who his staff are but I dont think a total purge is either sensible or necessary.
Will be underwhelmed with either Monk or Harris but will keep mind open if it is one of them
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Post by rideintothesun on Nov 5, 2023 20:05:09 GMT
Where do you draw the line between good and bad people? Is it a set of right and wrongs we can all agree with and share? I presume you don’t mean their football related skills alone. Gerry Francis was a thug, ditto Pearson who has just left City, ditto Sir Alex Ferguson, would you have all three in the “boycott” column? That’s thugism that could summon a cancelled sticker, then we have Barton supporting “friends with Hamas Corbyn”, and Di Cannio with fascist salutes and tattoos (which incidentally are illegal in Italy, though that might change soon) would you draw a line on Tatts that break the law? A Hamas loving manager? Anyone who’s done time in jail? Or any sanction for betting on football? or who’s had extra marital affairs? Someone who tweets “JK Rowling is wrong on Transgender”? They are here to manage us based on football skills and knowledge, where do we draw a line on their other characteristics, views and activities? All these moral arguments make me laugh. I think if we knew everybody employed by the clubs we support we would find a good reason to end the relationship. I use to work in a bookies frequented by Brian tinnion What an absolute tosser, one of the rudest unpleasant people I've ever met, I was grateful he was at city as if he had been at rovers I would have stopped going C*ty 1982 have more than a few contenders for people you wouldn't want to deal with on a day-to-day basis or encounter regularly - Gary Johnson, Leroy Lita and Lee Tomlin spring to mind. Buckle (obviously excluding Barton) was the last one of our managers. Can't think of any players offhand.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2023 21:41:01 GMT
All these moral arguments make me laugh. Were you joking or being sarcastic when expressing opposition to the appointment of the tool Robinson you said you disliked and suggested certain issues regarding? I must admit, I rarher took you at your word!
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Post by syg on Nov 5, 2023 21:54:28 GMT
All these moral arguments make me laugh. Were you joking or being sarcastic when expressing opposition to the appointment of the tool Robinson you said you disliked and suggested certain issues regarding? I must admit, I rarher took you at your word! . I was serious. Just going back to some of the comments on the Oxford forum from last year. Drinking culture was one of the things that popped up along with the women's team issue. There was something else but I cant remember what it was. All this is after hearing one of his post match interviews when he made JB sound like someone who takes responsibility for his actions. I think it will be monk if he wants it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2023 22:01:30 GMT
Fair enough. Your concerns sound reasonable to me. I think Monk (managed well by a director responsible for football and coach recruitment whom I do not know that we yet have) is the best bet available for Rovers' manager. If he has the drive and dedication necessary, he could be offered a contract to July 2025 on the expectation that his Rovers win more third division games than we lose both this season and next. His lack of success since Swansea City still warrants another chance.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 6, 2023 0:26:58 GMT
Fair enough. Your concerns sound reasonable to me. I think Monk (managed well by a director responsible for football and coach recruitment whom I do not know that we yet have) is the best bet available for Rovers' manager. If he has the drive and dedication necessary, he could be offered a contract to July 2025 on the expectation that his Rovers win more third division games than we lose both this season and next. His lack of success since Swansea City still warrants another chance. I agree. When he burst onto the scene at Swansea, Prem analysts and commentators really liked Monk and what he was doing “best homegrown manager in Prem” etc. he was probably the only non foreign manager in the Prem, ignore that bit. Dropping into league 1 should at least buy him two years and 4 windows to do justice to whatever manager, tactical and coaching skills he has. I also agree with you, a sporting director to help him, take some of the non coaching and match preparations from him. We seem to have done very well in the past with a strong number 2 helping out. Trollope had his Lennie, it arguably fell apart when he left, ditto when Stewart left Clarke, Penny left Olly etc. anyone with some gas in their blood out there at the moment you think might make good number 2? Whatever happened to Tilsons coaching career? Or some other notable captains we’ve had down the years?
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 6, 2023 18:05:01 GMT
Latest FWIW: Karl Robinson! Dean Holden 25-1 widening Neil Harris 5-1 widening Ian Holloway 16-1 widening Garry Monk 8-1 widening Steve Cotterill 25-1 widening Karl Robinson 1-2 tightening Whoa, where did that come from? 1-2. Looks like he must have been seen in the vicinity. Danny Cowley 16-1 tightening John Eustace 33-1 widening Andy Mangan 4-1 tightening Nathan Jones 33-1 widening Stephen Clemence 33-1 widening
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Post by The Concept on Nov 6, 2023 19:11:38 GMT
Someone should ask Super Joey Bar-uuuuuuuun, He knows exactly what we ne-eeeeeeed.
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 6, 2023 19:51:48 GMT
Is the Oxford manager in the frame for a move to Bristol instead of Frank Lampard junior
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 6, 2023 23:43:47 GMT
Is the Oxford manager in the frame for a move to Bristol instead of Frank Lampard junior Why would he?
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 7, 2023 18:19:47 GMT
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Post by JeffNZ on Nov 7, 2023 18:28:39 GMT
That's a good appointment. Really hope I'm wrong 😕
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