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Post by baselswh on Sept 19, 2024 21:43:35 GMT
Anti mass immigration demonstrations in Dublin today.Protesters laughably accused of being far Right.
The protesters were working and middle class Irish and they had travelled from all over Ireland to be there.
Ireland has a relatively small population and of course its people know full well how the invaders population grows very quickly.
I wish Ireland luck.
The luck of the Irish.
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Post by aghast on Sept 19, 2024 23:07:44 GMT
Anti mass immigration demonstrations in Dublin today.Protesters laughably accused of being far Right. The protesters were working and middle class Irish and they had travelled from all over Ireland to be there. Ireland has a relatively small population and of course its people know full well how the invaders population grows very quickly. I wish Ireland luck. The luck of the Irish. The Irish are one of the biggest migrant nations per capita in history. Fleeing from famine, poverty, oppression and the like, and the Irish are well aware of the welcome they have been given in other nations. I do wonder at the motives of these people and their lack of empathy. Hundreds of them, not thousands. Obviously I have my own views. You forgot to mention the counter protests by decent Irish citizens against this gathering. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 20, 2024 9:47:11 GMT
Anti mass immigration demonstrations in Dublin today.Protesters laughably accused of being far Right. The protesters were working and middle class Irish and they had travelled from all over Ireland to be there. Ireland has a relatively small population and of course its people know full well how the invaders population grows very quickly. I wish Ireland luck. The luck of the Irish. The Irish are one of the biggest migrant nations per capita in history. Fleeing from famine, poverty, oppression and the like, and the Irish are well aware of the welcome they have been given in other nations. I do wonder at the motives of these people and their lack of empathy. Hundreds of them, not thousands. Obviously I have my own views. You forgot to mention the counter protests by decent Irish citizens against this gathering. How is it you consider one side as 'decent', but anyone with an opposing view as not? Wow. |
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Post by francegas on Sept 20, 2024 13:24:45 GMT
Anti mass immigration demonstrations in Dublin today.Protesters laughably accused of being far Right. The protesters were working and middle class Irish and they had travelled from all over Ireland to be there. Ireland has a relatively small population and of course its people know full well how the invaders population grows very quickly. I wish Ireland luck. The luck of the Irish. The Irish are one of the biggest migrant nations per capita in history. Fleeing from famine, poverty, oppression and the like, and the Irish are well aware of the welcome they have been given in other nations. I do wonder at the motives of these people and their lack of empathy. Hundreds of them, not thousands. Obviously I have my own views. You forgot to mention the counter protests by decent Irish citizens against this gathering. I really don’t think you can compare the famine in Ireland of 1845 to 1852 where one million of its' citizens died of starvation and disease, and a further million fled the country with 100,000 dying on the "coffin" ships and many being fed to the sharks to what is occurring today in the UK and Ireland. Many of these who fled to the UK faced racism and were attacked just for being Catholic. The Irish who left in the 80/90s went to the UK for work, my wife being one of them. She arrived in London on the Saturday and started work the following Wednesday paying her UK taxes etc and until we left for France in 2007 she never claimed 1p in benefits. Now compare that to those rocking up on our shores and crossing the border from the North into the Republic of Ireland . |
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Post by oldie on Sept 20, 2024 13:40:52 GMT
The Irish are one of the biggest migrant nations per capita in history. Fleeing from famine, poverty, oppression and the like, and the Irish are well aware of the welcome they have been given in other nations. I do wonder at the motives of these people and their lack of empathy. Hundreds of them, not thousands. Obviously I have my own views. You forgot to mention the counter protests by decent Irish citizens against this gathering. I really don’t think you can compare the famine in Ireland of 1845 to 1852 where one million of its' citizens died of starvation and disease, and a further million fled the country with 100,000 dying on the "coffin" ships and many being fed to the sharks to what is occurring today in the UK and Ireland. Many of these who fled to the UK faced racism and were attacked just for being Catholic. The Irish who left in the 80/90s went to the UK for work, my wife being one of them. She arrived in London on the Saturday and started work the following Wednesday paying her UK taxes etc and until we left for France in 2007 she never claimed 1p in benefits. Now compare that to those rocking up on our shores and crossing the border from the North into the Republic of Ireland . Anti immigration person married an immigrant, shocker. Outrageous, we shouldn't allow that sort of thing🤭😂 |
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 20, 2024 14:03:56 GMT
I really don’t think you can compare the famine in Ireland of 1845 to 1852 where one million of its' citizens died of starvation and disease, and a further million fled the country with 100,000 dying on the "coffin" ships and many being fed to the sharks to what is occurring today in the UK and Ireland. Many of these who fled to the UK faced racism and were attacked just for being Catholic. The Irish who left in the 80/90s went to the UK for work, my wife being one of them. She arrived in London on the Saturday and started work the following Wednesday paying her UK taxes etc and until we left for France in 2007 she never claimed 1p in benefits. Now compare that to those rocking up on our shores and crossing the border from the North into the Republic of Ireland . Anti immigration person married an immigrant, shocker. Outrageous, we shouldn't allow that sort of thing🤭😂 I know you live in your own little world of black & white, but you don't seem to understand that nobody is against immigration. There is no such thing as an "anti-immigration" person. |
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 20, 2024 14:06:03 GMT
I really don’t think you can compare the famine in Ireland of 1845 to 1852 where one million of its' citizens died of starvation and disease, and a further million fled the country with 100,000 dying on the "coffin" ships and many being fed to the sharks to what is occurring today in the UK and Ireland. Many of these who fled to the UK faced racism and were attacked just for being Catholic. The Irish who left in the 80/90s went to the UK for work, my wife being one of them. She arrived in London on the Saturday and started work the following Wednesday paying her UK taxes etc and until we left for France in 2007 she never claimed 1p in benefits. Now compare that to those rocking up on our shores and crossing the border from the North into the Republic of Ireland . Anti immigration person married an immigrant, shocker. Outrageous, we shouldn't allow that sort of thing🤭😂 The apparent difference is that she arrived with the intention of gaining meanful employment, whereas many of those currently arriving seemingly have no intention of doing so.... |
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Post by francegas on Sept 20, 2024 14:14:53 GMT
I really don’t think you can compare the famine in Ireland of 1845 to 1852 where one million of its' citizens died of starvation and disease, and a further million fled the country with 100,000 dying on the "coffin" ships and many being fed to the sharks to what is occurring today in the UK and Ireland. Many of these who fled to the UK faced racism and were attacked just for being Catholic. The Irish who left in the 80/90s went to the UK for work, my wife being one of them. She arrived in London on the Saturday and started work the following Wednesday paying her UK taxes etc and until we left for France in 2007 she never claimed 1p in benefits. Now compare that to those rocking up on our shores and crossing the border from the North into the Republic of Ireland . Anti immigration person married an immigrant, shocker. Outrageous, we shouldn't allow that sort of thing🤭😂 I'm certainly not anti immigration. I, just like many others, believe in controlled immigration. We should know exactly who is coming into the country, where they have come from with a full background/criminal check, where they will be living/working. I would also expect them to integrate into society. Is that really too much to ask for? Unlike those who land on our shores illegally, who throw their papers into the channel so we have no idea who they are etc. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 20, 2024 14:59:05 GMT
Anti immigration person married an immigrant, shocker. Outrageous, we shouldn't allow that sort of thing🤭😂 The apparent difference is that she arrived with the intention of gaining meanful employment, whereas many of those currently arriving seemingly have no intention of doing so.... Really?! You believe that they come half way round the world for our wonderful benefits which are less than other countries they would have crossed. Most of them want to work. That is why it has been stupid to let them languish for 3 years in a hotel while our broken system tries to sort out their applications. Sort the applications quickly. Let them work to cover their accommodation while that's happening, and pay tax. Then let them stay or fail them and send them back. It's not rocket science. |
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 20, 2024 15:55:50 GMT
The apparent difference is that she arrived with the intention of gaining meanful employment, whereas many of those currently arriving seemingly have no intention of doing so.... Really?! You believe that they come half way round the world for our wonderful benefits which are less than other countries they would have crossed. Most of them want to work. That is why it has been stupid to let them languish for 3 years in a hotel while our broken system tries to sort out their applications. Sort the applications quickly. Let them work to cover their accommodation while that's happening, and pay tax. Then let them stay or fail them and send them back. It's not rocket science. Just re- read the last paragraph of francegas' post..why and what is the reason for that if you are looking for a new start in life?Surely if you have your REAL ID then things like ' work' can be achieved that much quicker |
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Post by aghast on Sept 20, 2024 16:25:27 GMT
Anti immigration person married an immigrant, shocker. Outrageous, we shouldn't allow that sort of thing🤭😂 I know you live in your own little world of black & white, but you don't seem to understand that nobody is against immigration. There is no such thing as an "anti-immigration" person. Not sure that's the clear message from your brothers on here. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 20, 2024 18:32:08 GMT
Anti immigration person married an immigrant, shocker. Outrageous, we shouldn't allow that sort of thing🤭😂 The apparent difference is that she arrived with the intention of gaining meanful employment, whereas many of those currently arriving seemingly have no intention of doing so.... You cannot possibly know that. That statement is blind prejudice |
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Post by oldie on Sept 20, 2024 18:35:42 GMT
Anti immigration person married an immigrant, shocker. Outrageous, we shouldn't allow that sort of thing🤭😂 I know you live in your own little world of black & white, but you don't seem to understand that nobody is against immigration. There is no such thing as an "anti-immigration" person. Jesus Nobby You voted for Reform. That "Party" has no other agenda |
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Post by oldie on Sept 20, 2024 18:36:51 GMT
Anti immigration person married an immigrant, shocker. Outrageous, we shouldn't allow that sort of thing🤭😂 I'm certainly not anti immigration. I, just like many others, believe in controlled immigration. We should know exactly who is coming into the country, where they have come from with a full background/criminal check, where they will be living/working. I would also expect them to integrate into society. Is that really too much to ask for? Unlike those who land on our shores illegally, who throw their papers into the channel so we have no idea who they are etc. How "controlled" is the movement between Eire and the UK? Or is it an open border? |
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 20, 2024 18:37:00 GMT
The apparent difference is that she arrived with the intention of gaining meanful employment, whereas many of those currently arriving seemingly have no intention of doing so.... You cannot possibly know that. That statement is blind prejudice Know what? And just read what I said and not you want it to read, then re consult your legal diary or Google for your reply .. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 20, 2024 18:41:38 GMT
You cannot possibly know that. That statement is blind prejudice Know what? And just read what I said and not you want it to read, then re consult your legal diary or Google for your reply .. Jesus Christ This "whereas many of those currently arriving seemingly have no intention of doing so.." How can you possibly know that? Do you not understand what you write? |
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 20, 2024 18:50:34 GMT
Know what? And just read what I said and not you want it to read, then re consult your legal diary or Google for your reply .. Jesus Christ This "whereas many of those currently arriving seemingly have no intention of doing so.." How can you possibly know that? Do you not understand what you write? Oh I do...I just wonder if you like to read stuff as you want to think it's written |
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Post by baldrick on Sept 20, 2024 19:21:05 GMT
The Irish are one of the biggest migrant nations per capita in history. Fleeing from famine, poverty, oppression and the like, and the Irish are well aware of the welcome they have been given in other nations. I do wonder at the motives of these people and their lack of empathy. Hundreds of them, not thousands. Obviously I have my own views. You forgot to mention the counter protests by decent Irish citizens against this gathering. I really don’t think you can compare the famine in Ireland of 1845 to 1852 where one million of its' citizens died of starvation and disease, and a further million fled the country with 100,000 dying on the "coffin" ships and many being fed to the sharks to what is occurring today in the UK and Ireland. Many of these who fled to the UK faced racism and were attacked just for being Catholic. The Irish who left in the 80/90s went to the UK for work, my wife being one of them. She arrived in London on the Saturday and started work the following Wednesday paying her UK taxes etc and until we left for France in 2007 she never claimed 1p in benefits. Now compare that to those rocking up on our shores and crossing the border from the North into the Republic of Ireland . Many are fleeing war (Syria, Afghanistan) and climate change (Horn of Africa). |
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Post by baldrick on Sept 20, 2024 19:24:24 GMT
Jesus Christ This "whereas many of those currently arriving seemingly have no intention of doing so.." How can you possibly know that? Do you not understand what you write? Oh I do...I just wonder if you like to read stuff as you want to think it's written Nor sure I've understood your thoughts here. You mentioned the words apparently and seemingly, which means you don't know. So Oldie is correct in saying you can't know that. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 20, 2024 19:43:06 GMT
Jesus Christ This "whereas many of those currently arriving seemingly have no intention of doing so.." How can you possibly know that? Do you not understand what you write? Oh I do...I just wonder if you like to read stuff as you want to think it's written I just quoted you? |
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