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Post by rideintothesun on Jul 27, 2024 16:51:46 GMT
When was the last time you heard a Christian Sunday School teacher preach hatred? You hav'nt have you. The German authorities recognise a bunch of nutters worse than Nazi,when they see them. Indoctrinated and dangerous. Completely not suited to be amongst us in the West. I hope this is the start of something big in Germany. In the scenario Muslims get all uppity about this,I would like to see the authorities come down on them like a ton of bricks imprisonment and deportations on mass. Turn the Mosques into Lady of the Night establishments or inner city pig farms. Something relatable to the German people. In all honesty I have not heard or listened to Christian teachings (sic) since I was about 12 years old. So I cannot answer your question. The rest of your words range between silly and repugnant You previously flirted with the 'religion of peace', as I recall? This would have acquainted you with Christian teaching, as Jesus is of course regarded by Muslims as a prophet of God. The poster is apparently referring to Islamists, not to Muslims when he is claiming that they are 'completely not suited to be among us'. This is a reasonable position, which is held by a growing number of people. I would invite Basel to retract the stuff about pig farms and lady of the night establishments, as this is unnecessary. If you are not already aware, you may be interested to learn that many Arab governments and Muslim governments impose very strict restrictions on Islamists and Islamists - it was previously the case that some groups banned in Arab countries were actually allowed to operate in the UK.
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 27, 2024 17:03:00 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jul 27, 2024 17:24:25 GMT
The Corbyn led counter demonstration,calling the TR demonstrators "fascists" seem an example of the dated lazy views you get from the Left.
They assume anyone with a different point of view than theirs,must be a "fascist ".
They chanted about being "black,white and Muslim".Stopped short of shouting "gay" as I assume they did'nt want to upset their Muslim contingency.
Corbyn told them the Government had better sort out homes for people, jobs etc because if things get worse the Right will blame foreigners. Etc.
Well there's some truth in that,but good luck with building a house every 2 minutes to keep up with the shortage.
We've allowed too many foreigners in,Labour and Tory.
Vote Reform.
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Post by oldie on Jul 27, 2024 17:25:13 GMT
In all honesty I have not heard or listened to Christian teachings (sic) since I was about 12 years old. So I cannot answer your question. The rest of your words range between silly and repugnant This would have acquainted you with Christian teaching, as Jesus is of course regarded by Muslims as a prophet of God. This is a reasonable position, which is held by a growing number of people. I would invite Basel to retract the stuff about pig farms and lady of the night establishments, as this is unnecessary. on Islamists and Islamists - it was previously the case that some groups banned in Arab countries were actually allowed to operate in the UK. "You previously flirted with the 'religion of peace', as I recall?" No, absolutely not true. I rejected all religion way before my exposure to Islam. I rejected Islam at the time as well. "The poster is apparently referring to Islamists, not to Muslims when he is claiming that they are 'completely not suited to be among us'." I am inclined to accept that view but, if you are referring to Basel, despite countless opportunities to refine his charge against Islam, he does not. He lobs all Muslims into the same basket regardless of country, culture or even race. "If you are not already aware, you may be interested to learn that many Arab governments and Muslim governments impose very strict restrictions" I am. I lived in one, married a local, albeit not an Arab State. See my point above about lobbing all Muslims into one basket. But in any event what you claim is a bit simplistic, it's more nuanced than that. Many States with Islam at its core are of the Theocratic fascist variety. They lock up or kill anyone they feel threatened by.
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Post by bluetornados on Jul 27, 2024 17:38:51 GMT
Les my dear old friend, 1000's of people of all ages and races attended the rally, the images do not lie, they are very passionate about our Great Britain... Tommy Robinson will take a rap for his part today, but he is willing to do this for his/the cause, respect for your narrative, but it works both ways Les...
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Post by oldie on Jul 27, 2024 17:41:56 GMT
Les my dear old friend, 1000's of people of all ages and races attended the rally, the images do not lie, they are very passionate about our Great Britain... Tommy Robinson will take a rap for his part today, but he is willing to do this for his/the cause, respect for your narrative, but it works both ways Les... Your evidence for the make up of the people in attendance who were flag carrying supporters of Robinson?
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 17:42:05 GMT
See there you have it, you are uneducated about this situation and share links of a lying, biased perspective with a click bait headline to fit your own narrative. To educate you...the film played today he made several years ago but he did not release it at the time as the authorities told him that if did he would face jail time. Why would that be? Fast forward to late last year/ early this I forget which, and a company in the USA released it without his knowledge and he got told to go to court early next week due to it, thus the reason for todays rally to show it given that his likely to go to jail anyway. The establishment and system are trying to frame Tommy on anything they can to silence him,that includes sending him to Jail as they know that if he is in there long enough that he will one day be killed by Muslims gangs in there who completely run our jails now. This happened when Robinson got arrested live on his live stream outside Leeds court a few years ago for reporting on a grooming gangs trial that day. He only reported on publicly known information that day, yet got arrested and sentenced to 13 months in jail without a solicitor or a jury present within 2 hours of his arrest.This got thrown out and he was released 3 months later by the highest powers on the grounds that the judge had no right to do this and Tommy had done nothing wrong. Around a 100,000 were there today as people are seeing what's happening to this country,our children and freedom of speech which Tommy is a victim of, and is made out to be this boogyman that people like you can spread your lies and vermin on as you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 17:47:22 GMT
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 17:54:12 GMT
See I was going to read that until the first sentence stated this. "A co-founder of the racist English Defense League".... I'm sorry but thats an Outright LIE...👎 The English defense league was set up by men from Luton, including Tommy after Muslims attacked our armed forces on their return from war in Iraq/Afghanistan in Luton. The police stood by and did nothing and after groups of Muslim men had raped girls in Luton, including Tommy's cousin so he and the Luton groups took the EDL around the country. Granted, the English defense league at first attracted some s**t human waste, and far right football racist scumbags, which resulted in Tommy leaving and continuing is activistim on his own.This resulted in the far right sending death threats on Robinson and attacks upon him. The far Right HATE's Tommy Robinson as much as Islamic terrorists do, but the media tells you otherwise as it fits there narrative. Again, I've followed this gentleman for a decade now and done extensive research and spent time following his work, and he changed my opinion of him and he is fighting the good fight against radical Islam, not Muslims here in the UK, the police state and the corrupt government - which I think most of us here believe that there is some amount of regardless of our political stance! There is a reason there will be tens upon tens of thousands of people supporting him tomorrow in London.. they can't all be racist,far right thugs can they be? - that doesn't make logical sense. Tommy all week has called for calm from his followers tomorrow to any provocation from antifa and far left thugs trying get a reaction at the counter demo. We will see how this goes.. I wonder if BBC will report it just like they did on poppy day..? I'm pretty certain everyone supporting Tommy R at the event will indeed be racist, overwhelmingly right wing, and have a proportion of thugs far higher than the general population. Why doesn't that make logical sense? A rally under Jeremy Corbyn would consist almost solely of left wingers determined to smash the right. If you can't see this, it's because you are so close to it you have become blind and are a willing or unwitting accomplice, or are following a different Tommy Robinson to the one I know. You know, the 'Me? Racist? Never!' one. A genuine troublemaker and mischief maker. His dishonesty in pursuit of respectability almost makes it worse. You are just rambling there, but actually agreed with some of it.
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Post by oldie on Jul 27, 2024 17:56:27 GMT
See there you have it, you are uneducated about this situation and share links of a lying, biased perspective with a click bait headline to fit your own narrative. To educate you...the film played today he made several years ago but he did not release it at the time as the authorities told him that if did he would face jail time. Why would that be? Fast forward to late last year/ early this I forget which, and a company in the USA released it without his knowledge and he got told to go to court early next week due to it, thus the reason for todays rally to show it given that his likely to go to jail anyway. The establishment and system are trying to frame Tommy on anything they can to silence him,that includes sending him to Jail as they know that if he is in there long enough that he will one day be killed by Muslims gangs in there who completely run our jails now. This happened when Robinson got arrested live on his live stream outside Leeds court a few years ago for reporting on a grooming gangs trial that day. He only reported on publicly known information that day, yet got arrested and sentenced to 13 months in jail without a solicitor or a jury present within 2 hours of his arrest.This got thrown out and he was released 3 months later by the highest powers on the grounds that the judge had no right to do this and Tommy had done nothing wrong. Around a 100,000 were there today as people are seeing what's happening to this country,our children and freedom of speech which Tommy is a victim of, and is made out to be this boogyman that people like you can spread your lies and vermin on as you don't have a clue what you are talking about. "The one-hour 45-minute “documentary” about his legal battle with a Syrian schoolboy was played on large screens despite an injunction banning him from repeating the claims made in the film." A schoolboy!! "In 2021 he was ordered to pay Jamal Hijazi £100,000 for allegations he made about the Syrian refugee after a video of him being attacked at his Huddersfield school went viral" "The false claims, including that Mr Hijazi had been attacking girls in his school, were repeated in the film" There you have it. The law took it's due course. But not for people like Robinson. I loved his wording "As the crowds waving Union Flags watched the film patiently, Robinson said on Twitter: “I’ll be jailed for two years for showing the inconceivable truth.” Inconceivable!! From the dictionary "inconceivable. adjective. in·con·ceiv·able ˌin-kən-ˈsē-və-bəl. : impossible to imagine or believe." So the stupid one says his film is impossible to imagine or believe. Perhaps he didn't take English Comprehension at school
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Post by oldie on Jul 27, 2024 17:58:16 GMT
It is. But more importantly for this board, posting it up here may be seen as a breach of the injunction
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 17:59:36 GMT
See there you have it, you are uneducated about this situation and share links of a lying, biased perspective with a click bait headline to fit your own narrative. To educate you...the film played today he made several years ago but he did not release it at the time as the authorities told him that if did he would face jail time. Why would that be? Fast forward to late last year/ early this I forget which, and a company in the USA released it without his knowledge and he got told to go to court early next week due to it, thus the reason for todays rally to show it given that his likely to go to jail anyway. The establishment and system are trying to frame Tommy on anything they can to silence him,that includes sending him to Jail as they know that if he is in there long enough that he will one day be killed by Muslims gangs in there who completely run our jails now. This happened when Robinson got arrested live on his live stream outside Leeds court a few years ago for reporting on a grooming gangs trial that day. He only reported on publicly known information that day, yet got arrested and sentenced to 13 months in jail without a solicitor or a jury present within 2 hours of his arrest.This got thrown out and he was released 3 months later by the highest powers on the grounds that the judge had no right to do this and Tommy had done nothing wrong. Around a 100,000 were there today as people are seeing what's happening to this country,our children and freedom of speech which Tommy is a victim of, and is made out to be this boogyman that people like you can spread your lies and vermin on as you don't have a clue what you are talking about. "The one-hour 45-minute “documentary” about his legal battle with a Syrian schoolboy was played on large screens despite an injunction banning him from repeating the claims made in the film." A schoolboy!! "In 2021 he was ordered to pay Jamal Hijazi £100,000 for allegations he made about the Syrian refugee after a video of him being attacked at his Huddersfield school went viral" "The false claims, including that Mr Hijazi had been attacking girls in his school, were repeated in the film" There you have it. The law took it's due course. But not for people like Robinson. I loved his wording "As the crowds waving Union Flags watched the film patiently, Robinson said on Twitter: “I’ll be jailed for two years for showing the inconceivable truth.” Inconceivable!! From the dictionary "inconceivable. adjective. in·con·ceiv·able ˌin-kən-ˈsē-və-bəl. : impossible to imagine or believe." So the stupid one says his film is impossible to imagine or believe. Perhaps he didn't take English Comprehension at school You have copied and pasted some of that, have you watched the video?
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 18:06:07 GMT
It is. But more importantly for this board, posting it up here may be seen as a breach of the injunction There you have it end of discussion as you are pointless in trying to talk to. You want me to be punished for something in the public deman given that even a moderator on here yesterday explained to me that the purpose of sharing links is to debate each other's point of view. I share the video exposing the lies that you and the media share and you want me punished!? You are a very scary individual. How can you speak on a subject when you have not watched it.... baffling.
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Post by oldie on Jul 27, 2024 18:08:43 GMT
"The one-hour 45-minute “documentary” about his legal battle with a Syrian schoolboy was played on large screens despite an injunction banning him from repeating the claims made in the film." A schoolboy!! "In 2021 he was ordered to pay Jamal Hijazi £100,000 for allegations he made about the Syrian refugee after a video of him being attacked at his Huddersfield school went viral" "The false claims, including that Mr Hijazi had been attacking girls in his school, were repeated in the film" There you have it. The law took it's due course. But not for people like Robinson. I loved his wording "As the crowds waving Union Flags watched the film patiently, Robinson said on Twitter: “I’ll be jailed for two years for showing the inconceivable truth.” Inconceivable!! From the dictionary "inconceivable. adjective. in·con·ceiv·able ˌin-kən-ˈsē-və-bəl. : impossible to imagine or believe." So the stupid one says his film is impossible to imagine or believe. Perhaps he didn't take English Comprehension at school You have copied and pasted some of that, have you watched the video? It is enough for me that Robinson was found guilty and ordered to recompense the kid to the tune of £100,000. As you won't say or perhaps do not understand, the film itself is not banned, he is banned from repeating false statements which he has already been found guilty and fined for. He has made no attempt to have the film edited to remove the false statements, I presume, so now he is in breach and wallowing in the adulation of the martyr he so wants to be. A weak minded buffoon
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Post by oldie on Jul 27, 2024 18:09:57 GMT
It is. But more importantly for this board, posting it up here may be seen as a breach of the injunction There you have it end of discussion as you are pointless in trying to talk to. You want me to be punished for something in the public deman given that even a moderator on here yesterday explained to me that the purpose of sharing links is to debate each other's point of view. I share the video exposing the lies that you and the media share and you want me punished!? You are a very scary individual. How can you speak on a subject when you have not watched it.... baffling. Don't extrapolate that which is not true. I am just pointing out the risk.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 27, 2024 18:11:37 GMT
You have copied and pasted some of that, have you watched the video? It is enough for me that Robinson was found guilty and ordered to recompense the kid to the tune of £100,000. As you won't say or perhaps do not understand, the film itself is not banned, he is banned from repeating false statements which he has already been found guilty and fined for. He has made no attempt to have the film edited to remove the false statements, I presume, so now he is in breach and wallowing in the adulation of the martyr he so wants to be. A weak minded buffoon I've had enough of talking about this with you,as you said you come across as a weak minded buff*on.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 27, 2024 18:34:55 GMT
It is enough for me that Robinson was found guilty and ordered to recompense the kid to the tune of £100,000. As you won't say or perhaps do not understand, the film itself is not banned, he is banned from repeating false statements which he has already been found guilty and fined for. He has made no attempt to have the film edited to remove the false statements, I presume, so now he is in breach and wallowing in the adulation of the martyr he so wants to be. A weak minded buffoon I've had enough of talking about this with you,as you said you come across as a weak minded buff*on. The moderators have asked that people to do not name call. Attack the post not the poster. What part of that do you not understand?
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 27, 2024 18:38:31 GMT
They would still be suspended at this moment [innocent or not] as GMP have referred themselves to the Police Complaints authority. Unlike Lee Anderson and Richard Tice who are trying to stir people up and don't understand the due process, the local Labour MP has met with the family [and GMP] and both he and they have asked for calm and to let due process take place without violent response.
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