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Post by The Concept on Jul 19, 2023 16:34:27 GMT
Sorry, it's me, I've caused the delay.
Put in an objection that it will spoil my super vista over the rooftops and cityscape of Bristol, past the floodlights of Glos CCC, and on to the hills of Dundry in the distance.
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Post by oldie on Jul 19, 2023 18:21:51 GMT
Sorry, it's me, I've caused the delay. Put in an objection that it will spoil my super vista over the rooftops and cityscape of Bristol, past the floodlights of Glos CCC, and on to the hills of Dundry in the distance. No way You couldn't have done that from Knowle Cricket Ground on Broad Walk |
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Post by The Concept on Jul 19, 2023 18:30:21 GMT
Sorry, it's me, I've caused the delay. Put in an objection that it will spoil my super vista over the rooftops and cityscape of Bristol, past the floodlights of Glos CCC, and on to the hills of Dundry in the distance. No way You couldn't have done that from Knowle Cricket Ground on Broad Walk Maybe from the top level of the car park of Broad Walk Shopping Centre. Before the cricket ground it was Knowle Golf Course (hence why the name was retained when it moved to West Town / Brislington), and before a golf course it was a Racecourse (apparently people are still digging up horseshoes in the back gardens of Knowle Park). Anyway, can you imagine Knowle Racecourse, before all the houses in Knowle Park and Hengrove were built, the views across to Dundry from the Racecouse Grandstand must have been rather good. |
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Post by The Concept on Jul 19, 2023 18:36:16 GMT
Sorry, it's me, I've caused the delay. Put in an objection that it will spoil my super vista over the rooftops and cityscape of Bristol, past the floodlights of Glos CCC, and on to the hills of Dundry in the distance. No way You couldn't have done that from Knowle Cricket Ground on Broad Walk Hang on ... you've made me stop and think now ... what is the hill range I can see from the East Stand? Kelston? Lansdown? ... I'm sure it's Dundry. Trying to picture it now, but I'm sure I can see a Dundry Mast. p.s. Last season we could see a big Ferris Wheel, brightly lit up, that was on Durdham Downs. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 19, 2023 19:20:09 GMT
No way You couldn't have done that from Knowle Cricket Ground on Broad Walk Maybe from the top level of the car park of Broad Walk Shopping Centre. Before the cricket ground it was Knowle Golf Course (hence why the name was retained when it moved to West Town / Brislington), and before a golf course it was a Racecourse (apparently people are still digging up horseshoes in the back gardens of Knowle Park). Anyway, can you imagine Knowle Racecourse, before all the houses in Knowle Park and Hengrove were built, the views across to Dundry from the Racecouse Grandstand must have been rather good. Not sure. You sure you are not describing the Imperial Ground. No way the limits of Knowle Cricket Ground and it's foot print could have been a race course. Mind you the old speedway course in Hengrove could have been |
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Post by The Concept on Jul 19, 2023 19:44:37 GMT
Maybe from the top level of the car park of Broad Walk Shopping Centre. Before the cricket ground it was Knowle Golf Course (hence why the name was retained when it moved to West Town / Brislington), and before a golf course it was a Racecourse (apparently people are still digging up horseshoes in the back gardens of Knowle Park). Anyway, can you imagine Knowle Racecourse, before all the houses in Knowle Park and Hengrove were built, the views across to Dundry from the Racecouse Grandstand must have been rather good. Not sure. You sure you are not describing the Imperial Ground. No way the limits of Knowle Cricket Ground and it's foot print could have been a race course. Mind you the old speedway course in Hengrove could have been The racecourse covered what is now the housing estate known as Knowle Park; as I say, people in Knowle Park have dug up horseshoes in their gardens. It would have stretched from Wells Road down Broad Walk to Daventry Road, and across past The Gaiety to the top of Red Lion Hill. Just done a quick google and this website has some sketches of the racecourse. It shows the Grandstand and view to Dundry. The Grandstand would have stood on what is now Knowle CC and backed on to Broad Walk. www.greyhoundderby.com/Bristol%20Racecourse.htmlwww.alamy.com/the-new-racecourse-bristol-the-grandstand-knowle-horse-racing-1873-image270881985.htmlpixels.com/featured/the-new-racecourse-bristol-the-grand-stand-1873-english-school.html?product=wood-print |
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jul 19, 2023 19:49:25 GMT
Lived at 125 Broad Walk and saw Rovers play a pre season cricket game at Knowle cricket ground there.Geoff Bradford,Howard Radford starred.Left Broad Walk in 1962 aged 16 to join the RAF Boy Entrants but have watched very many games since at ;Eastville,Twerton and the Mem.
Not seen a lot of ground improvements in all that time so the new south stand will be the source of much joy.
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Post by oldie on Jul 19, 2023 19:53:20 GMT
Well Thanks My maternal grandparents moved into Queens hill Rd after WW1. I lived there as well |
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Post by The Concept on Jul 19, 2023 20:03:59 GMT
Well Thanks My maternal grandparents moved into Queens hill Rd after WW1. I lived there as well Mum's side = Queensdale Crescent. Dad's side = Somerset Road. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 19, 2023 20:44:58 GMT
Well Thanks My maternal grandparents moved into Queens hill Rd after WW1. I lived there as well Mum's side = Queensdale Crescent. Dad's side = Somerset Road. Blimey Small world |
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Post by eppinggas on Jul 20, 2023 7:52:12 GMT
Mum's side = Queensdale Crescent. Dad's side = Somerset Road. Blimey Small world Small world oldie and The Concept, but a trifle worrying that family roots go back to sarf of the river. My maternal Nan lived in Somerdale Avenue and paternal grandparents lived in Imperial Walk. I remember them saying how loud the speedway used to be... |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jul 20, 2023 11:04:49 GMT
Small world oldie and The Concept , but a trifle worrying that family roots go back to sarf of the river. My maternal Nan lived in Somerdale Avenue and paternal grandparents lived in Imperial Walk. I remember them saying how loud the speedway used to be... You'll probably find that a good many Bristolian family trees go back to some Somerset village or other. |
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Post by swissgas on Jul 20, 2023 22:47:39 GMT
We must be approaching the time when practical considerations will have to be taken into account if Rovers are going to be able to fulfill our early season home fixture obligations.
There may need to be a suitable wall or barrier erected at the South end of the ground to ensure EFL regulations on pitch perimeter protection are complied with.
There will have to be nets or other barriers put in place to prevent wayward footballs encroaching on adjoining properties.
And the area behind the goal will need to be cleared of hazards and made safe for the ball boys/ girls to work.
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Post by bondigas on Jul 21, 2023 8:08:01 GMT
Sounds as if the Mem is going to look like the Kassam Stadium for the coming season. Who ever planned this scheme and approved it hasn't been very bright.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 21, 2023 8:19:13 GMT
Small world oldie and The Concept , but a trifle worrying that family roots go back to sarf of the river. My maternal Nan lived in Somerdale Avenue and paternal grandparents lived in Imperial Walk. I remember them saying how loud the speedway used to be... You'll probably find that a good many Bristolian family trees go back to some Somerset village or other. Ours only started after the war. My parents were placed in Lulsgate bottom, in the Nissan huts of the yanks, they stayed there until 55 and then bought the house, in Kingswood. Thus Kingswood Polak was born. It will end with me as i have no kids but it’s lovely reading others histories |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 21, 2023 8:19:55 GMT
Sounds as if the Mem is going to look like the Kassam Stadium for the coming season. Who ever planned this scheme and approved it hasn't been very bright. Par for the course eh |
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Post by eppinggas on Jul 21, 2023 9:01:31 GMT
We must be approaching the time when practical considerations will have to be taken into account if Rovers are going to be able to fulfill our early season home fixture obligations. There may need to be a suitable wall or barrier erected at the South end of the ground to ensure EFL regulations on pitch perimeter protection are complied with. There will have to be nets or other barriers put in place to prevent wayward footballs encroaching on adjoining properties. And the area behind the goal will need to be cleared of hazards and made safe for the ball boys/ girls to work. Again swiss... you're not looking at the positives. The view towards Kelston from the Blackthorn Terrace has been improved with the removal of the south stand tents. Let's have a sweep-stake. Guess when Rovers will first open the new south stand. I'll go first. September 23rd Home to Wigan. (That's me being being glass half full and planning permission is granted). |
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Post by rowdenhill on Jul 21, 2023 9:34:55 GMT
By then Kingswood Polak will have chalked up 10,000 posts, an event even more worthy of celebration.
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Post by The Concept on Jul 21, 2023 10:04:07 GMT
100% yes. If we could just establish ourselves in the Championship, then I believe that options would become available. You could redevelop The Mem (using temporary stands) whilst planning for a new stadium. From what I know - Blackpool, Bournemouth and Fulham all have one of these permanent Temporary stands that we are building at the Mem, and all were built quickly for when they got into the premiership.I think Worcester and Exeter Rugby clubs also have these. This is not a Micky mouse structure we are building here, it's costing money and is a longer term build unlike the south tent was meant to be ( which lasted over 20 years😂) Of course the goal has to be a state of the art new build at the fruit market, and I believe that will happen with Wael within 5-10 years. But I love the mem site and once the south stand is completed why can't we knock down the East stand and do the same there? Something like I said Blackpool have done with their away end which is like the one we are building which runs the whole side of the pitch.. I guess the only problem with doing this is that the centenary stand holds alot of corporate functions and pre matchday meals, bars and of course the club shop and club offices - so knocking down this side, then of course all these would need to be replaced within the new structure. Last year I was offered a job with a company that works at the mem through out the week and on match days.During this period I got talking to the owners of the company that holds the main cleaning contact at both the mem and Ashton gate.They are city fans,and they admitted that while Ashton gate is a far better stadium,when it comes to the corporate side with hospitality and functions etc...we are not that far behind what they offer and is of a high standard.This meaning rebuilding the east side with a temporary/permanent structure would involve a lot more money and work then replacing the old south tents. But with that being said, we could turn the mem into a very tidy stadium doing this for not much cost that could hold championship football while we wait for a new ground. I would say that the East Stand should be the last of any redevelopment, because of the capacity you lose during demolition and rebuild, and as you say the facilities it holds. The next phase of any redevelopment of The Mem (should we know we're there for some time, or need increased capacity while waiting for a new stadium being built), is the North End of the ground, and it wouldn't involve losing the existing North Terrace. It's fairly simple, and here's what you do: - Roof comes off the Thatchers End. - Retain the standing terracing beneath (could be changed to safe-standing if regulations require). - Knock down the Clubhouse Bars. - You are left with the footprint of the clubhouse bars, behind the terracing, to build a new seated stand which could mirror the type of construction at the South End. Positives: - You retain the terrace. - No reduced capacity during the build. - Any new seats installed are a complete net gain. - You should be able to increase the capacity by 3,000 (minimum 2,000). - You've increased the seating capacity, ideal for families. - Could increase the tickets available to away fans at the South End (and less segregation space lost). - Possibility of a row of hospitality boxes between terrace and stand. Negatives: - You lose the clubhouse bars... This could be compensated by using the concourse beneath the new stand as a bar area. Might be smaller, but would be one whole room and the Fan Zone is outside anyway. So this could automatically increase the ground capacity by 3,000. If WAQ, TG & DB get plans in before Christmas, we could build the thing next close season. |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jul 21, 2023 10:25:21 GMT
You'll probably find that a good many Bristolian family trees go back to some Somerset village or other. Ours only started after the war. My parents were placed in Lulsgate bottom, in the Nissan huts of the yanks, they stayed there until 55 and then bought the house, in Kingswood. Thus Kingswood Polak was born. It will end with me as i have no kids but it’s lovely reading others histories Yes indeed. And once you get into the history of the farm workers with roots going back centuries ripped up by the Industrial Revolution and plonked into sordid urban blight and disease, and the effects that WW1 had on their lives, it gets a grip of you. I'm second generation Bristolian on two of my lines and third and fourth on the other two. |
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