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Post by russiangas on Sept 24, 2023 23:04:25 GMT
Is the intention to move the pitch towards the blackthorn end and? Otherwise looking at the steel work I don't get why the first row of seats is so high off the ground level, unless it's just to improve the view?
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Post by JeffNZ on Sept 25, 2023 0:20:56 GMT
Maybe some flower beds and a greyhound track are planned for that space?
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Post by The Concept on Sept 25, 2023 5:46:56 GMT
Is the intention to move the pitch towards the blackthorn end and? Otherwise looking at the steel work I don't get why the first row of seats is so high off the ground level, unless it's just to improve the view? The pitch has already been moved towards the Thatchers End. You should be able to see this on the video if you check where the halfway line now meets the stands either side. Not sure whether it will be moved further on completion. Not sure whether the first row of seats will be raised, but it's not uncommon. Examples at Cambridge United and Leyton Orient, among others. It has advantages, such as improved sightlines for the front rows, and people can walk past the front of the stand (maybe used as entrance and exit) without impeding the view for spectators.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Sept 25, 2023 7:42:43 GMT
Is the intention to move the pitch towards the blackthorn end and? Otherwise looking at the steel work I don't get why the first row of seats is so high off the ground level, unless it's just to improve the view? The pitch has already been moved towards the Thatchers End. You should be able to see this on the video if you check where the halfway line now meets the stands either side. Not sure whether it will be moved further on completion. Not sure whether the first row of seats will be raised, but it's not uncommon. Examples at Cambridge United and Leyton Orient, among others. It has advantages, such as improved sightlines for the front rows, and people can walk past the front of the stand (maybe used as entrance and exit) without impeding the view for spectators. Yes, the pitch has already moved towards the Thatchers end by around 2-3 meters. Looking at where the new South Stand Finishes on the Left, it will obscure around 15% of the existing terraced away end so I reckon the next phase will be to dovetail the away terrace with the South Stand, it does need it.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Sept 25, 2023 8:44:44 GMT
There’s a big enough gap for a few front rows there. Maybe They’re prefrabricated sections separate from the rest.
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Post by rowdenhill on Sept 25, 2023 10:02:56 GMT
I like the idea of a moving pitch. Think of the possibilities...
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Post by harrybuckle on Sept 25, 2023 14:46:27 GMT
I like the idea of a moving pitch. Think of the possibilities... Yes move it to the Quarters and return it prior to matchdays now you are talking. Artificial intelligence is fantastic
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 25, 2023 19:22:46 GMT
Might be less injuries in training....(?)
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Sept 25, 2023 19:35:16 GMT
For over 20 years that monstrosity of a tent was a total embarrassment.So chuffed it's gone as even in the National League it made us seem rag bag.Suddenly we are talking about new stands here and there.Probably fantasy but hey the Tent has gone and optimism abounds.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 25, 2023 20:08:39 GMT
What was also a total embarrassment, was the previous 10 years having no home, playing out of a non league ground and expecting most fans to travel more.
But, we learned to embrace our predicament and turn it into a strength.
We never really have at Mem re tents.
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Post by texasgas on Sept 28, 2023 11:24:35 GMT
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Sept 28, 2023 11:28:12 GMT
Either we have made an even more shambolic mess of things OR the new application has a better chance of being approved quickly.
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Post by Bamber Gashead on Sept 28, 2023 12:48:32 GMT
Bristol Rovers... we never do thing by halves... when only quarters will do!
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 28, 2023 12:56:50 GMT
Either we have made an even more shambolic mess of things OR the new application has a better chance of being approved quickly. Why would a new application for the South Stand have more chance of retrospective consent (or quicker approval)? Unless someone made a material mistake in the original application which could see the retrospective planning application refused, and at worst the whole thing demolished. This has to be unlikely, but why else submit a new application at this stage? I doubt it would speed things up, surely it just adds more red tape. It could just be, that BRFC are just making the whole thing up as it goes along.
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Post by bondigas on Sept 28, 2023 13:17:47 GMT
It looks as if following the recent Hortham residents questionnaire being circulated to people living near the training ground requesting a sensible response to proposed new plans that the club has engaged a professional firm who understand planning applications and this withdrawal request is cleaning up another spectacular own goal submission made by the club the first time. What I find amazing who ever was behind this horror show could still be employed at the club, let's hope the Kuwaities will protect their investment by appointing some qualified experienced management to make sure events like the South Stand non planning application and the failed JCH deadline signing never happens again.
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Post by harrybuckle on Sept 28, 2023 13:51:14 GMT
It looks as if following the recent Hortham residents questionnaire being circulated to people living near the training ground requesting a sensible response to proposed new plans that the club has engaged a professional firm who understand planning applications and this withdrawal request is cleaning up another spectacular own goal submission made by the club the first time. What I find amazing who ever was behind this horror show could still be employed at the club, let's hope the Kuwaities will protect their investment by appointing some qualified experienced management to make sure events like the South Stand non planning application and the failed JCH deadline signing never happens again. Don't bank on it.
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Post by JeffNZ on Sept 28, 2023 14:18:03 GMT
Oh no please, not another embarrassment.
I can see the Posts' headline already.
"Bristol Council Take a Stand"
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Post by laughinggas on Sept 28, 2023 15:39:18 GMT
Either we have made an even more shambolic mess of things OR the new application has a better chance of being approved quickly. Why would a new application for the South Stand have more chance of retrospective consent (or quicker approval)? Unless someone made a material mistake in the original application which could see the retrospective planning application refused, and at worst the whole thing demolished. This has to be unlikely, but why else submit a new application at this stage? I doubt it would speed things up, surely it just adds more red tape. It could just be, that BRFC are just making the whole thing up as it goes along. The article suggests that this means the review, or whatever it's called, is off the table unless they call it against the new plans. So in theory the planning department can give the go ahead without the need to go back to the council review. Something like that anyway thus, possibly, making it quicker. See what transpires next.
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Post by The Concept on Sept 28, 2023 16:22:19 GMT
Back in January, the Post were reporting that planning applications were taking 15 months to be approved. On the basis of submitting ours in April 2023, that would it would take until July 2024. So surely when it was called in by the council for October this year, surely - even if the backlogs had been reduced significantly - being called in is in our favour and the approval time would be far quicker?? Or what am I missing here?? Edit:Can't remember where I read about the 15 months to be approved, but this article from January talks about 4 months before a planning officer is even assigned to look at an application, and gives examples of 17 and 18 months waiting for approval: www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-city-councils-planning-backlog-8004341
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 28, 2023 16:46:30 GMT
Why would a new application for the South Stand have more chance of retrospective consent (or quicker approval)? Unless someone made a material mistake in the original application which could see the retrospective planning application refused, and at worst the whole thing demolished. This has to be unlikely, but why else submit a new application at this stage? I doubt it would speed things up, surely it just adds more red tape. It could just be, that BRFC are just making the whole thing up as it goes along. The article suggests that this means the review, or whatever it's called, is off the table unless they call it against the new plans. So in theory the planning department can give the go ahead without the need to go back to the council review. Something like that anyway thus, possibly, making it quicker. See what transpires next. But surely the Greens will just call it in again! Unless they've had a massive change of heart. Therefore the process is lengthened from where we are now. Will it be open by Halloween? Christmas? Note I didn't put any years against those dates. .
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