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Post by oldie on Jul 3, 2024 22:11:56 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Jul 3, 2024 23:21:05 GMT
Desperate and obsessed. Right ,election day . |
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 4, 2024 7:01:05 GMT
As I said previously...it's what suits your narrative...like selective hearing..... Tunnel vision can be a dangerous thing |
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Post by oldie on Jul 4, 2024 7:27:24 GMT
As I said previously...it's what suits your narrative...like selective hearing..... Tunnel vision can be a dangerous thing LiS I am just repeating what Farage himself said. Yes, it is what I think and believe, but this is the comment of the majority shareholder and owner of Reform. In that sense it is not selective nor tunnel vision. If you, or anyone, thinks that you could offer up the alternative evidence, then do so. But there is no such evidence is there? So to be in denial of what is so blatantly true, to keep blindly repeating a lie, well, is that not the ultimate sin? |
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 4, 2024 7:47:06 GMT
As I said previously...it's what suits your narrative...like selective hearing..... Tunnel vision can be a dangerous thing LiS I am just repeating what Farage himself said. Yes, it is what I think and believe, but this is the comment of the majority shareholder and owner of Reform. In that sense it is not selective nor tunnel vision. If you, or anyone, thinks that you could offer up the alternative evidence, then do so. But there is no such evidence is there? So to be in denial of what is so blatantly true, to keep blindly repeating a lie, well, is that not the ultimate sin? It's not just this clip on Farage, if you chose to go back through this whole thread( I don't expect you to) but you get my drift, your entire reasoning in the election is one of total bias towards the labour party with no want to listen to anyone's thoughts but your own, continually writing down people views and thoughts with total disdain,and at times mockery,this is where I see your tunnel vision, at times you could be a version of NF with your views and how you perceive things from " your side" of the fence. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 4, 2024 8:05:27 GMT
LiS I am just repeating what Farage himself said. Yes, it is what I think and believe, but this is the comment of the majority shareholder and owner of Reform. In that sense it is not selective nor tunnel vision. If you, or anyone, thinks that you could offer up the alternative evidence, then do so. But there is no such evidence is there? So to be in denial of what is so blatantly true, to keep blindly repeating a lie, well, is that not the ultimate sin? It's not just this clip on Farage, if you chose to go back through this whole thread( I don't expect you to) but you get my drift, your entire reasoning in the election is one of total bias towards the labour party with no want to listen to anyone's thoughts but your own, continually writing down people views and thoughts with total disdain,and at times mockery,this is where I see your tunnel vision, at times you could be a version of NF with your views and how you perceive things from " your side" of the fence. Ok LiS, understood. I think (and hope) my disdain is limited to those that use language like "Commie scum", or accuse me of being an "anti Semite", or a supporter of "terrorist groups" or "hates my own country" Or being accused of being a Troll because I dare to offer up an alternative view, hopefully justified with evidence. I do read the views of others, with interest, trying to understand why people believe and say the things they do. But it is hard, when statements are just made with no attempt at reasoning or justification. I am sure we all do that on occasion but for some that is all they do. Anyway On Farage I believe we have a duty to call him out as he is, in my opinion, a threat to our democracy. The structure of his company that represents itself as the Reform Party being just one piece of evidence. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 4, 2024 13:23:03 GMT
As I said previously...it's what suits your narrative...like selective hearing..... Tunnel vision can be a dangerous thing LiS I am just repeating what Farage himself said. Yes, it is what I think and believe, but this is the comment of the majority shareholder and owner of Reform. In that sense it is not selective nor tunnel vision. If you, or anyone, thinks that you could offer up the alternative evidence, then do so. But there is no such evidence is there? So to be in denial of what is so blatantly true, to keep blindly repeating a lie, well, is that not the ultimate sin? It's a start-up Party. It has few resources and doesn't have the large offices of the other Parties. It'll take time. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 4, 2024 13:26:24 GMT
It's not just this clip on Farage, if you chose to go back through this whole thread( I don't expect you to) but you get my drift, your entire reasoning in the election is one of total bias towards the labour party with no want to listen to anyone's thoughts but your own, continually writing down people views and thoughts with total disdain,and at times mockery,this is where I see your tunnel vision, at times you could be a version of NF with your views and how you perceive things from " your side" of the fence. Ok LiS, understood. I think (and hope) my disdain is limited to those that use language like "Commie scum", or accuse me of being an "anti Semite", or a supporter of "terrorist groups" or "hates my own country" Or being accused of being a Troll because I dare to offer up an alternative view, hopefully justified with evidence. I do read the views of others, with interest, trying to understand why people believe and say the things they do. But it is hard, when statements are just made with no attempt at reasoning or justification. I am sure we all do that on occasion but for some that is all they do. Anyway On Farage I believe we have a duty to call him out as he is, in my opinion, a threat to our democracy. The structure of his company that represents itself as the Reform Party being just one piece of evidence. Oh God, you keep harping om about "the structure of the company". It is that way as it only has a very small number of members and so it is set up like this to avoid a small number of people taking it over. You never did answer me as to why the LibDems are also a 'company', which demonstrates your complete blinkered approach as the LibDems have been a Company for many many years, yet not a peep from you. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 4, 2024 13:57:43 GMT
LiS I am just repeating what Farage himself said. Yes, it is what I think and believe, but this is the comment of the majority shareholder and owner of Reform. In that sense it is not selective nor tunnel vision. If you, or anyone, thinks that you could offer up the alternative evidence, then do so. But there is no such evidence is there? So to be in denial of what is so blatantly true, to keep blindly repeating a lie, well, is that not the ultimate sin? It's a start-up Party. It has few resources and doesn't have the large offices of the other Parties. It'll take time. So they are in no fit state to be elected as a representative of any constituency? |
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Post by oldie on Jul 4, 2024 13:59:52 GMT
Ok LiS, understood. I think (and hope) my disdain is limited to those that use language like "Commie scum", or accuse me of being an "anti Semite", or a supporter of "terrorist groups" or "hates my own country" Or being accused of being a Troll because I dare to offer up an alternative view, hopefully justified with evidence. I do read the views of others, with interest, trying to understand why people believe and say the things they do. But it is hard, when statements are just made with no attempt at reasoning or justification. I am sure we all do that on occasion but for some that is all they do. Anyway On Farage I believe we have a duty to call him out as he is, in my opinion, a threat to our democracy. The structure of his company that represents itself as the Reform Party being just one piece of evidence. Oh God, you keep harping om about "the structure of the company". It is that way as it only has a very small number of members and so it is set up like this to avoid a small number of people taking it over. You never did answer me as to why the LibDems are also a 'company', which demonstrates your complete blinkered approach as the LibDems have been a Company for many many years, yet not a peep from you. Yes I did and detailed that the Lib Dems are a company ltd by guarantee. Goodness me Nobby |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 4, 2024 14:00:53 GMT
It's a start-up Party. It has few resources and doesn't have the large offices of the other Parties. It'll take time. So they are in no fit state to be elected as a representative of any constituency? Why not? Are you also suggesting that anyone who puts themselves up as an Independent should also never be elected? |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 4, 2024 14:01:36 GMT
Oh God, you keep harping om about "the structure of the company". It is that way as it only has a very small number of members and so it is set up like this to avoid a small number of people taking it over. You never did answer me as to why the LibDems are also a 'company', which demonstrates your complete blinkered approach as the LibDems have been a Company for many many years, yet not a peep from you. Yes I did and detailed that the Lib Dems are a company ltd by guarantee. Goodness me Nobby So the LibDems are also a 'company'! |
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Post by oldie on Jul 4, 2024 14:12:36 GMT
So they are in no fit state to be elected as a representative of any constituency? Why not? Are you also suggesting that anyone who puts themselves up as an Independent should also never be elected? You having a bad day Nobby? Farage is not putting himself up as an Independent. He represents the Reform Party (sic) |
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Post by oldie on Jul 4, 2024 14:15:08 GMT
Yes I did and detailed that the Lib Dems are a company ltd by guarantee. Goodness me Nobby So the LibDems are also a 'company'! Limited by guarantee which is a different structure and nature than limited by Share Capital. Look on the Companies House website if you want understand the fundamental differences |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 4, 2024 14:16:35 GMT
So the LibDems are also a 'company'! Limited by guarantee which is a different structure and nature than limited by Share Capital. Look on the Companies House website if you want understand the fundamental differences I totally understand the differences, but I'm baffled as to why you think it's important. It's a total non-story, non-argument. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 4, 2024 14:29:04 GMT
Limited by guarantee which is a different structure and nature than limited by Share Capital. Look on the Companies House website if you want understand the fundamental differences I totally understand the differences, but I'm baffled as to why you think it's important. It's a total non-story, non-argument. If you are baffled then you do not. I am baffled why you repeat the same question |
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Post by trymer on Jul 4, 2024 16:57:54 GMT
LiS I am just repeating what Farage himself said. Yes, it is what I think and believe, but this is the comment of the majority shareholder and owner of Reform. In that sense it is not selective nor tunnel vision. If you, or anyone, thinks that you could offer up the alternative evidence, then do so. But there is no such evidence is there? So to be in denial of what is so blatantly true, to keep blindly repeating a lie, well, is that not the ultimate sin? It's a start-up Party. It has few resources and doesn't have the large offices of the other Parties. It'll take time. Remember when Anna Soubrey started a party ?...she had the advantage of having 11 MPs....10 months and 3 name changes later all the MPS had left/lost their seats and the party dissolved. Soubrey slated Farage and the Brexit party (as it was then) but Brexit party /Reform has gone in the opposite direction to her motley crew. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 4, 2024 19:03:38 GMT
It's a start-up Party. It has few resources and doesn't have the large offices of the other Parties. It'll take time. Remember when Anna Soubrey started a party ?...she had the advantage of having 11 MPs....10 months and 3 name changes later all the MPS had left/lost their seats and the party dissolved. Soubrey slated Farage and the Brexit party (as it was then) but Brexit party /Reform has gone in the opposite direction to her motley crew. Remember the Banana Party? They couldn't either |
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Post by baselswh on Jul 4, 2024 19:41:55 GMT
It's a start-up Party. It has few resources and doesn't have the large offices of the other Parties. It'll take time. Remember when Anna Soubrey started a party ?...she had the advantage of having 11 MPs....10 months and 3 name changes later all the MPS had left/lost their seats and the party dissolved. Soubrey slated Farage and the Brexit party (as it was then) but Brexit party /Reform has gone in the opposite direction to her motley crew. Gina Miller launched the True and Fair Party,to an almost empty room. She had ago,but the rooms never got full. Apparently Miller is standing in this election. |
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Post by trymer on Jul 5, 2024 7:05:16 GMT
NF is surely the most influential British politician since WW2 he should get a knighthood but I suppose calling the now king a loony will stop him becoming Sir Nigel.
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