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Post by oldie on Sept 7, 2024 13:24:52 GMT
"he problem is that a lot of people seem to only learn 'history' from watching films." An issue we see manifest itself on here all too often The only film that I learnt any history from was JFK with Kevin Costner. I first watched it in about 1995, and never really knew anything about the Cuban missile crisis,nor the cold war before that. After watching that film many times since, I started to study the subject extensively by reading books and watching hundreds of documentary on how close we came in October 1962. I remember my dad saying that the whole world thought that was the end. Was anyone on here alive at the time,or can remember it? I was ten, 11 or 12 I think when JFK was assassinated. I remember it well and I recall my grandparents reaction to it. When LBJ stood for president in 1964, I recall being scared of Barry Goldwater his republican opponent. I don't know why I was only 12. But I remember it vividly. I was right though, he was another Republican loony tunes. Of course it all blew up in 1968, by which time I was really into it. Then of course Nixon had those poor students shot at Kent State University in 1970. Another Republican loony tune
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Post by baldrick on Sept 7, 2024 13:37:04 GMT
"he problem is that a lot of people seem to only learn 'history' from watching films." An issue we see manifest itself on here all too often The only film that I learnt any history from was JFK with Kevin Costner. I first watched it in about 1995, and never really knew anything about the Cuban missile crisis,nor the cold war before that. After watching that film many times since, I started to study the subject extensively by reading books and watching hundreds of documentary on how close we came in October 1962. I remember my dad saying that the whole world thought that was the end. Was anyone on here alive at the time,or can remember it? I asked my dad about it shortly after the film came out as he would have been mid teens at the time, he said by the time news came through things had settled down anyway and was pretty unaware. I suspect my grandparents may have thought differently. We were close in 1983 too, Andropov was ill and paranoid. How close is debated but some think it was very close.
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Post by Icegas on Sept 7, 2024 14:56:02 GMT
The only film that I learnt any history from was JFK with Kevin Costner. I first watched it in about 1995, and never really knew anything about the Cuban missile crisis,nor the cold war before that. After watching that film many times since, I started to study the subject extensively by reading books and watching hundreds of documentary on how close we came in October 1962. I remember my dad saying that the whole world thought that was the end. Was anyone on here alive at the time,or can remember it? I asked my dad about it shortly after the film came out as he would have been mid teens at the time, he said by the time news came through things had settled down anyway and was pretty unaware. I suspect my grandparents may have thought differently. We were close in 1983 too, Andropov was ill and paranoid. How close is debated but some think it was very close. Some believe we are even closer today given the wars in Ukraine and Gaza.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 7, 2024 15:55:50 GMT
I asked my dad about it shortly after the film came out as he would have been mid teens at the time, he said by the time news came through things had settled down anyway and was pretty unaware. I suspect my grandparents may have thought differently. We were close in 1983 too, Andropov was ill and paranoid. How close is debated but some think it was very close. Some believe we are even closer today given the wars in Ukraine and Gaza. Funnily enough, I did but am less convinced now. But that's probably another topic.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 22, 2024 14:04:23 GMT
The Bishop of Woke,Justin Welby has apologised ( who to? ) for his great great great Grandfathers involvement in slavery.
What a w****r!
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Post by baldrick on Oct 22, 2024 14:08:35 GMT
The Bishop of Woke,Justin Welby has apologised ( who to? ) for his great great great Grandfathers involvement in slavery. What a w****r! His choice though.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 22, 2024 14:12:44 GMT
The Bishop of Woke,Justin Welby has apologised ( who to? ) for his great great great Grandfathers involvement in slavery. What a w****r! His choice though. I wonder how much,if anything, it cost to find out what GGG Granddaddy got up to?
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Post by baldrick on Oct 22, 2024 14:13:48 GMT
I wonder how much,if anything, it cost to find out what GGG Granddaddy got up to? Does it matter? It's a personal thing.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 22, 2024 14:18:58 GMT
I wonder how much,if anything, it cost to find out what GGG Granddaddy got up to? Does it matter? It's a personal thing. Well,the BLM Mafia wanted us all to take the knee,for being whitey and our crimes against blacks.I assume many people can't afford to check out their family history to see if their ancestors were members of the Black & White Minstrels Show,let alone involved in slavery.
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Post by baldrick on Oct 22, 2024 14:26:45 GMT
Does it matter? It's a personal thing. Well,the BLM Mafia wanted us all to take the knee,for being whitey and our crimes against blacks.I assume many people can't afford to check out their family history to see if their ancestors were members of the Black & White Minstrels Show,let alone involved in slavery. Genealogy needn't be expensive, but it's still his choice and his money.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 22, 2024 14:32:37 GMT
Well,the BLM Mafia wanted us all to take the knee,for being whitey and our crimes against blacks.I assume many people can't afford to check out their family history to see if their ancestors were members of the Black & White Minstrels Show,let alone involved in slavery. Genealogy needn't be expensive, but it's still his choice and his money. You mean once retired you do it yourself?
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Post by oldie on Oct 22, 2024 16:18:30 GMT
Genealogy needn't be expensive, but it's still his choice and his money. You mean once retired you do it yourself? My grandson, 17, has taken out an account with Ancestry .Com. He has the results of the gene analysis. It was quite funny. Strangely the term "woke" never came into it nor did BLM. But then he is not two parts nuts.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 12:25:34 GMT
You can also use Familysearch.org which is free. Although it is run by the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints !!
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 12:31:09 GMT
You mean once retired you do it yourself? My grandson, 17, has taken out an account with Ancestry .Com. He has the results of the gene analysis. It was quite funny. Strangely the term "woke" never came into it nor did BLM. But then he is not two parts nuts. Why would it?
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Post by baselswh on Nov 7, 2024 8:18:54 GMT
Is the Guardian asking for donations?
Is it struggling?
A case of "go woke,go broke"?
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Post by baldrick on Nov 7, 2024 8:32:13 GMT
Is the Guardian asking for donations? Is it struggling? A case of "go woke,go broke"? Telegraph needs to be bought out?
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 7, 2024 10:24:03 GMT
Is the Guardian asking for donations? Is it struggling? A case of "go woke,go broke"? Not at all, it is supported by many ordinary people and not funded by non dom billionaires, living overseas in tax havens. It also doesn't hide behind paywalls so people can read more than the 'click bait' headlines.
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Post by baselswh on Nov 7, 2024 10:36:08 GMT
Is the Guardian asking for donations? Is it struggling? A case of "go woke,go broke"? Not at all, it is supported by many ordinary people and not funded by non dom billionaires, living overseas in tax havens. It also doesn't hide behind paywalls so people can read more than the 'click bait' headlines. Does it fiddle the sales figures? Donations from about 180 countries I see. A woke globalist thing I suppose.
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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 7, 2024 11:27:42 GMT
Is the Guardian asking for donations? Is it struggling? A case of "go woke,go broke"? Not at all, it is supported by many ordinary people and not funded by non dom billionaires, living overseas in tax havens. It also doesn't hide behind paywalls so people can read more than the 'click bait' headlines. You mean it is not owned by billionaires. It does receive funding from them though. "However, as climate commentator Ben Pile has noted, billionaires love The Guardian and are very happy to put their hand in their pocket to support its projects. For example, according to US outlet MintPress News, a thorough sift through donations from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation shows The Guardian has received a cool $12,951,391 in support. In fact, Gates and his now ex-wife have sprayed hundreds of millions of dollars across the media landscape to support the kind of journalism they approve of. But the Gateses aren’t the only billionaires supporting The Guardian. A quick look at its website’s philanthropy section shows that Aussie billionaire Judith Neilson’s institute funds The Guardian Australia’s Pacific Project. The Open Society Foundations, created by Hungarian billionaire George Soros, have backed Guardian projects on America’s environmental inequalities and on transforming care using AI. The David and Lucile Packard Foundation, set up by the late co-founder of Hewlett-Packard in the 1960s, supported its work on the state of the oceans. So the claim that The Guardian isn’t funded by billionaires seems rather dubious. It’s true that the Guardian Media Group is owned by the Scott Trust rather than by some self-serving media magnate. But the implication of its pitch to readers to cough up money is that anyone who is funded by the super-rich is owned by them, rather than the more reasonable assumption that organisations will seek funding to engage in endeavours such as specialist journalism that aren’t easily funded through other means. Indeed, Guardian writers have been quick to launch ad hominem follow-the-money attacks on other outlets when other journalists write things that aren’t simpatico with The Guardian’s worldview." www.khmertimeskh.com/50975405/how-bill-gates-bankrolls-the-media-outlet-that-claims-its-not-backed-by-billionaires/
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Post by baldrick on Nov 7, 2024 12:46:11 GMT
Not at all, it is supported by many ordinary people and not funded by non dom billionaires, living overseas in tax havens. It also doesn't hide behind paywalls so people can read more than the 'click bait' headlines. You mean it is not owned by billionaires. It does receive funding from them though. "However, as climate commentator Ben Pile has noted, billionaires love The Guardian and are very happy to put their hand in their pocket to support its projects. For example, according to US outlet MintPress News, a thorough sift through donations from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation shows The Guardian has received a cool $12,951,391 in support. In fact, Gates and his now ex-wife have sprayed hundreds of millions of dollars across the media landscape to support the kind of journalism they approve of. But the Gateses aren’t the only billionaires supporting The Guardian. A quick look at its website’s philanthropy section shows that Aussie billionaire Judith Neilson’s institute funds The Guardian Australia’s Pacific Project. The Open Society Foundations, created by Hungarian billionaire George Soros, have backed Guardian projects on America’s environmental inequalities and on transforming care using AI. The David and Lucile Packard Foundation, set up by the late co-founder of Hewlett-Packard in the 1960s, supported its work on the state of the oceans. So the claim that The Guardian isn’t funded by billionaires seems rather dubious. It’s true that the Guardian Media Group is owned by the Scott Trust rather than by some self-serving media magnate. But the implication of its pitch to readers to cough up money is that anyone who is funded by the super-rich is owned by them, rather than the more reasonable assumption that organisations will seek funding to engage in endeavours such as specialist journalism that aren’t easily funded through other means. Indeed, Guardian writers have been quick to launch ad hominem follow-the-money attacks on other outlets when other journalists write things that aren’t simpatico with The Guardian’s worldview." www.khmertimeskh.com/50975405/how-bill-gates-bankrolls-the-media-outlet-that-claims-its-not-backed-by-billionaires/ Interesting source, surprised it's not reported more widely. Anyway, here's a possible explanation. x.com/GeorgeMonbiot/status/1561344565801619456
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