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Post by baselswh on Sept 6, 2024 16:11:18 GMT
A new film coming out soon,"Blitz". Directed by Steve McQueen.
It's an apparently a true representation of a working class family 1940,London.
The film is seem through the eyes of a black child.
Sounds like more woke bulls**t.
"True representation ".
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Always best to judge a piece of art without having even seen it.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 6, 2024 16:48:03 GMT
A new film coming out soon,"Blitz". Directed by Steve McQueen. It's an apparently a true representation of a working class family 1940,London. The film is seem through the eyes of a black child. Sounds like more woke bulls**t. "True representation ". Do you think there were no black people in London at the time?
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Post by baselswh on Sept 6, 2024 17:37:15 GMT
A new film coming out soon,"Blitz". Directed by Steve McQueen. It's an apparently a true representation of a working class family 1940,London. The film is seem through the eyes of a black child. Sounds like more woke bulls**t. "True representation ". Do you think there were no black people in London at the time? Very very few.99.9% of working class people ,in 1940 London were white.It's clearly a woke film and not a true representation or at least that's how it sounds. Before WWII,being a Briton was white and our identity had not changed for approximately 1000 years,since William the Conqueror popped over. McQueen claims he wants to represent the spirit of the blitz,well if that was true why select a mixed race family and the story seen through their child?How many black people have you seen in photos or film crammed in the tube from 1940?Okay,it may be a good film,I may enjoy it,but it's a woke box ticker,more bulls**t 'history ' from a black man.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 6, 2024 19:04:31 GMT
Do you think there were no black people in London at the time? Very very few.99.9% of working class people ,in 1940 London were white.It's clearly a woke film and not a true representation or at least that's how it sounds. Before WWII,being a Briton was white and our identity had not changed for approximately 1000 years,since William the Conqueror popped over. McQueen claims he wants to represent the spirit of the blitz,well if that was true why select a mixed race family and the story seen through their child?How many black people have you seen in photos or film crammed in the tube from 1940?Okay,it may be a good film,I may enjoy it,but it's a woke box ticker,more bulls**t 'history ' from a black man. Nonsense, if he represents the spirit of the Blitz then it won't matter. There were black people and it in no way diminishing the story at face value. Sounds like you've already chosen to not like the film.
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Post by Icegas on Sept 6, 2024 19:39:22 GMT
Apparently the cast of Inbetweeners are in talks for a return. We'll see if it's any good,but,keep the Wokers away! Is this correct!!? I loved that show... They could definitely get another special or two/ a movie out of it ... I would also love Only fools to make one or two, last episodes also! But with four or five of the main characters now no longer with us,plus the writer Sullivan also gone, it wouod become a woke TV stunt given its on the BBC, so I say let it be..
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Post by Icegas on Sept 6, 2024 19:54:31 GMT
Very very few.99.9% of working class people ,in 1940 London were white.It's clearly a woke film and not a true representation or at least that's how it sounds. Before WWII,being a Briton was white and our identity had not changed for approximately 1000 years,since William the Conqueror popped over. McQueen claims he wants to represent the spirit of the blitz,well if that was true why select a mixed race family and the story seen through their child?How many black people have you seen in photos or film crammed in the tube from 1940?Okay,it may be a good film,I may enjoy it,but it's a woke box ticker,more bulls**t 'history ' from a black man. Nonsense, if he represents the spirit of the Blitz then it won't matter. There were black people and it in no way diminishing the story at face value. Sounds like you've already chosen to not like the film. Basel's point is this..and it's a valid one! After just looking quickly on Google, apparently there were between 8,000 and 10,000 black people living in the UK during WW2 out of a UK population of around 50 million, a tiny number. Compare that to the 2.4 million black people that now live here today, out of a population that is officially 70 million...but realistically our population is 5- 10 million higher than that. This film should represent the population back then given statistics, not just rewrite history to fit into the woke narrative of today. It's not racist to say this as it's fact....as its more racist to tell lies about our past even in a film.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 6, 2024 19:57:10 GMT
Very very few.99.9% of working class people ,in 1940 London were white.It's clearly a woke film and not a true representation or at least that's how it sounds. Before WWII,being a Briton was white and our identity had not changed for approximately 1000 years,since William the Conqueror popped over. McQueen claims he wants to represent the spirit of the blitz,well if that was true why select a mixed race family and the story seen through their child?How many black people have you seen in photos or film crammed in the tube from 1940?Okay,it may be a good film,I may enjoy it,but it's a woke box ticker,more bulls**t 'history ' from a black man. Nonsense, if he represents the spirit of the Blitz then it won't matter. There were black people and it in no way diminishing the story at face value. Sounds like you've already chosen to not like the film. Sounds like you've already decided to like the film. I stated it may be good,I may like it,but it is another example where British history films apparently must have black or brown people in them,preferably in a starring role. Wokery.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 6, 2024 19:58:51 GMT
Apparently the cast of Inbetweeners are in talks for a return. We'll see if it's any good,but,keep the Wokers away! Is this correct!!? I loved that show... They could definitely get another special or two/ a movie out of it ... I would also love Only fools to make one or two, last episodes also! But with four or five of the main characters now no longer with us,plus the writer Sullivan also gone, it wouod become a woke TV stunt given its on the BBC, so I say let it be.. Apparently in talks Ice,hopefully it leads to a series or film or both.
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Post by pop up pirate on Sept 6, 2024 20:18:36 GMT
Nonsense, if he represents the spirit of the Blitz then it won't matter. There were black people and it in no way diminishing the story at face value. Sounds like you've already chosen to not like the film. Sounds like you've already decided to like the film. I stated it may be good,I may like it,but it is another example where British history films apparently must have black or brown people in them,preferably in a starring role. Wokery. It's not wokery bas, the writer and director is black and can choose who plays what. It might be an interesting watch, different than the usual perspective of this genre
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Post by baselswh on Sept 6, 2024 20:31:46 GMT
Sounds like you've already decided to like the film. I stated it may be good,I may like it,but it is another example where British history films apparently must have black or brown people in them,preferably in a starring role. Wokery. It's not wokery bas, the writer and director is black and can choose who plays what. It might be an interesting watch, different than the usual perspective of this genre In todays political and social climate I am absolutely sure it is another example of Wokery. Yes,it may be a decent film,I may like it,but,it is wokery.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 6, 2024 20:36:29 GMT
Nonsense, if he represents the spirit of the Blitz then it won't matter. There were black people and it in no way diminishing the story at face value. Sounds like you've already chosen to not like the film. Sounds like you've already decided to like the film. I stated it may be good,I may like it,but it is another example where British history films apparently must have black or brown people in them,preferably in a starring role. Wokery. Not at all, I'm not the one posting a review of a film I've not seen. Happy to wait. What I do see is that rather than accept a storyteller is telling a story from a particular point of view, you've decided it's being made for woke reasons.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 6, 2024 20:42:15 GMT
Nonsense, if he represents the spirit of the Blitz then it won't matter. There were black people and it in no way diminishing the story at face value. Sounds like you've already chosen to not like the film. Basel's point is this..and it's a valid one! After just looking quickly on Google, apparently there were between 8,000 and 10,000 black people living in the UK during WW2 out of a UK population of around 50 million, a tiny number. Compare that to the 2.4 million black people that now live here today, out of a population that is officially 70 million...but realistically our population is 5- 10 million higher than that. This film should represent the population back then given statistics, not just rewrite history to fit into the woke narrative of today. It's not racist to say this as it's fact....as its more racist to tell lies about our past even in a film. No problem with Bas's ratio, it's pretty true. However I doubt you would agree that telling a story on film should be decided on the percentage it represents. If a story is worth telling then it's irrelevant. What I was getting at is if a filmmaker wants to get across the spirit of the Blitz than can still be faithful. If a filmmaker has a particular angle to tell a story, then that can still be realistic.
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Sept 6, 2024 20:42:52 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Sept 6, 2024 20:42:52 GMT
Sounds like you've already decided to like the film. I stated it may be good,I may like it,but it is another example where British history films apparently must have black or brown people in them,preferably in a starring role. Wokery. Not at all, I'm not the one posting a review of a film I've not seen. Happy to wait. What I do see is that rather than accept a storyteller is telling a story from a particular point of view, you've decided it's being made for woke reasons. 99.9% white. I've never seen a black person in photographs of the Blitz. Have you? Yep,I'm sure it's a woke piece of work.It maybe very well done and enjoyable too.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 6, 2024 20:44:31 GMT
It's not wokery bas, the writer and director is black and can choose who plays what. It might be an interesting watch, different than the usual perspective of this genre In todays political and social climate I am absolutely sure it is another example of Wokery. Yes,it may be a decent film,I may like it,but,it is wokery. You are Joe McCarthy and I claim my 10 roubles. 😀
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Post by baselswh on Sept 6, 2024 20:48:42 GMT
In todays political and social climate I am absolutely sure it is another example of Wokery. Yes,it may be a decent film,I may like it,but,it is wokery. You are Joe McCarthy and I claim my 10 roubles. 😀 😏 Not sure I follow,but I've already stated I may like the film. I had better make an effort to see it now.
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Post by baldrick on Sept 6, 2024 20:50:45 GMT
Not at all, I'm not the one posting a review of a film I've not seen. Happy to wait. What I do see is that rather than accept a storyteller is telling a story from a particular point of view, you've decided it's being made for woke reasons. 99.9% white. I've never seen a black person in photographs of the Blitz. Have you? Yep,I'm sure it's a woke piece of work.It maybe very well done and enjoyable too. Funnily enough. 😁 We are lucky enough to live in a world with Internet access, they are around if you search. Even you say they were there in your percentages. Isn't it time to add to the tapestry of the country and tell their story?
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Post by baldrick on Sept 6, 2024 20:52:34 GMT
You are Joe McCarthy and I claim my 10 roubles. 😀 😏 Not sure I follow,but I've already stated I may like the film. McCarthy is synonymous with 'Reds under the beds', I have the impression you see wokery in a similar light. Hope you enjoy the film, be interested I'm your review.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 6, 2024 21:03:48 GMT
😏 Not sure I follow,but I've already stated I may like the film. McCarthy is synonymous with 'Reds under the beds', I have the impression you see wokery in a similar light. Hope you enjoy the film, be interested I'm your review. That's what I suspected you were getting at.Who is under your bed Balders? Yes,it'll be interesting to see the film. I hope it's a genuine view point of a mixed race child,on the Blitz. I hope it is'nt some left wing nonsense that attempts to take anything away from the horrors Londoners faced,often with great courage and spirit. I don't trust eg Black History Month ( a strange event ) ,then add BLM and you can have a recipe for exaggeration,lies and racism.Sometimes good factual history and that I applaud.
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Post by aghast on Sept 6, 2024 21:25:48 GMT
I can't see the issue here. It might be an interesting perspective, just like a film about the black servants working in 18th Century Britain would be.
It can't be judged as 'woke', whatever that is, until it's been viewed. Jumping to conclusions about something just because a black director has made a film about a black person isn't constructive debate.
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