irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Aug 25, 2014 14:15:19 GMT
Thought Lockyer was our best player I thought Harrison was our best player. Changed the game and has to start. I thought it was a game we deserved to win but creating goals and chances is going to be a BIG problem. We are always prone to a blunder while being defensively competent, if not outstanding. Taylor is complete sh*t. Overall, vastly improved performance. It wasn't totally shameful or completely inept which is something, so I will just take the positives where I can. If only because I'm fed up of being so deflated and angry. I'll take anything. I'm not sure I'd agree with all of that that. I think Harrison put in a good impact performance but I think he probably works best in that role for the time-being. The guy's confidence was clearly shot to pieces last year so I think he probably needs a few games were he plays in situations in which the odds are very much in his favour. He certainly injected energy though. I thought Taylor looked like the kind of player who doesn't do a lot but will then grab you a goal - and to be fair he had 1 ruled out and another saved by the keeper (I actually thought he was a bit unlucky there - I think he hit it where you are told to and the goalie guessed right). Point he's done naff all the whole game but been in 2 potentially goalscoring situations - I can't really see anyone else in our side really getting in those positions so I would think he'd probably stay there. I personally think Coddington did OK so not really understanding the stick he's getting. He's clearly an ugly targetman, hold the ball up type forward who is never going to beat a couple of mean and stick it in the top corner. He was up against a very experienced defender in Coles and an absolute tree in Oliver - with that in mind I thought he did his basic job pretty well because he was consistently holding them off and laying it on to midfielders. I thought he was let down a few times by the failure of our midfield to spot the space he was creating. He'll do and you'd expect him to get a bit sharper as well. But if people are having a go at him for not taking that 1st half chance better I think that's harsh - it's not exactly the guy's meat and drink though he definitely should have done better. We need a player who can do those things in our squad especially if we're down on confidence.
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Aug 25, 2014 14:17:19 GMT
Neal Trotman was superb, can't remember the last time I've seen a centre half dominate the aerial battles as much as he did. FGR manager just said that he was immense and i thought him and Parkes look a good partnership. Gutted we didn't get 3 points today, were the better team and that performance shows that people need to be sensible and give this team time to grow. He bailed Parkes out a few times. Parkes is not good enough. Give up s**thead, you have been rumbled!!!
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Post by Captain Jayho on Aug 25, 2014 14:18:47 GMT
DC somewhat lacking in charisma when it comes to interviews but have to say he made a lot of sense after the game. He also re-affirmed that Ellis has come back and worked hard after last season and will get his chance so it's good to see something resolved sensibly for once.
I think Ellis probably deserves a start fairly soon after his performance today. But there's a part of me that thinks he will be most useful as an impact sub. Time will tell I guess and of course I hope if he gets his chance he takes it and does well. The more competition in the squad the better.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 25, 2014 14:21:09 GMT
Ellis Harrison = a poor man's Lewis Haldane is a great shout. But totally irrelevant to today's game.
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Aug 25, 2014 14:21:28 GMT
It really is getting more like OTIb every match, geez, Taylor is s**t, this player is a donkey etc, we are a conference side and from what I saw, in atrocious conditions, I thought we were the better side against a top 5 side come the end of the season, give the guys a break, we need a Lee Hughes type striker, and we'd then have a good squad for this league, the sooner all these armchair managers just settle down and realise the last pass is more than likely to be s**t, because these players playing for YOUR team are trying their best, they're not league 1 standard, that's the trouble, but look at FGR, apart from their jammy equaliser, did they really look like they were going to score? No, and they're 2nd in the table!! Our final ball let us down but I don't think we were s**t at all like some on here, we played the conditions, and team, very well, we just couldn't finish.
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Aug 25, 2014 14:23:12 GMT
I'm happy with that performance!
We do need to be more clinical though. Killing off games is something we haven't been able to do for many years, so we have to try and change that. A positive performance and something to build on mind you.
Trotman was my MOM. Absolute class today.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Aug 25, 2014 14:24:36 GMT
DC somewhat lacking in charisma when it comes to interviews but have to say he made a lot of sense after the game. He also re-affirmed that Ellis has come back and worked hard after last season and will get his chance so it's good to see something resolved sensibly for once. I think Ellis probably deserves a start fairly soon after his performance today. But there's a part of me that thinks he will be most useful as an impact sub. Time will tell I guess and of course I hope if he gets his chance he takes it and does well. The more competition in the squad the better. Thought he looked tired and fed up after the disgraceful bashing he's taken after just 3 games, and after 2 good results he's knows that people still won't be happy. He's building something special and trying his hardest to change habits and freshen things up, he deserves support and patience, he's had neither and some fans need to take a long hard look at themselves.
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Aug 25, 2014 14:25:11 GMT
Ellis Harrison = a poor man's Lewis Haldane is a great shout. But totally irrelevant to today's game. Response to an earlier post.
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Post by Raj Gas on Aug 25, 2014 14:30:32 GMT
Neal Trotman was superb, can't remember the last time I've seen a centre half dominate the aerial battles as much as he did. FGR manager just said that he was immense and i thought him and Parkes look a good partnership. Gutted we didn't get 3 points today, were the better team and that performance shows that people need to be sensible and give this team time to grow. He bailed Parkes out a few times. Parkes is not good enough. He will improve again playing next to Trotman, who today was the best defender on the pitch by a mile.
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 25, 2014 14:32:43 GMT
It really is getting more like OTIb every match, geez, Taylor is s***, this player is a donkey etc, we are a conference side and from what I saw, in atrocious conditions, I thought we were the better side against a top 5 side come the end of the season, give the guys a break, we need a Lee Hughes type striker, and we'd then have a good squad for this league, the sooner all these armchair managers just settle down and realise the last pass is more than likely to be s***, because these players playing for YOUR team are trying their best, they're not league 1 standard, that's the trouble, but look at FGR, apart from their jammy equaliser, did they really look like they were going to score? No, and they're 2nd in the table!! Our final ball let us down but I don't think we were s*** at all like some on here, we played the conditions, and team, very well, we just couldn't finish. Well yes on occasions they did. Needed a good save from Mildenhall when they broke through on probably the best move of the match, and another one from the free kick.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 14:33:00 GMT
Well that was a good little game and a fair result. Both sides had good and bad moments,typical low class footy at many points but what I saw of Rovers today has shown that perhaps given time, they just might turn things around and start getting a few victories under their belts. The only Rovers player that failed to impress me was Cunnington and even he had a couple of good touches........only a couple mind!
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Post by andos on Aug 25, 2014 14:40:33 GMT
Some people on here will never be happy...
To say Taylor is s**t or Parkes or anyone today is crazy.
Competent but underwhelming performance. Good to build on though and were clearly the better team. That something is missing up front but I do think cunnington and Taylor could work. Taylor technically very good and unlucky not to get a goal. Cunnington strong, composed and good presence.
Agree with comments re Harrison. Good demeanor and attitude which is pleasing. But lots of effort and not much else. Very much Haldane esque as touted.
Trotman, Lockyer especially and remainder of back for done well. Can't do much about the goal; 3 charged it down and how it got through I don't know. Off the hand also! Defence less shaky looking with Mcchrystak.
All round good Solid performance and with match practice will only improve! This team is still learning.
Ollie Clarke; I have to say is a much better player than I thought. Some good touches. Also Monkhouse and Mansell despite being pretty average showed good composure and experience.
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Post by Raj Gas on Aug 25, 2014 14:47:23 GMT
Some people on here will never be happy... To say Taylor is s*** or Parkes or anyone today is crazy. Competent but underwhelming performance. Good to build on though and were clearly the better team. That something is missing up front but I do think cunnington and Taylor could work. Taylor technically very good and unlucky not to get a goal. Cunnington strong, composed and good presence. Agree with comments re Harrison. Good demeanor and attitude which is pleasing. But lots of effort and not much else. Very much Haldane esque as touted. Trotman, Lockyer especially and remainder of back for done well. Can't do much about the goal; 3 charged it down and how it got through I don't know. Off the hand also! Defence less shaky looking with Mcchrystak. All round good Solid performance and with match practice will only improve! This team is still learning. Ollie Clarke; I have to say is a much better player than I thought. Some good touches. Also Monkhouse and Mansell despite being pretty average showed good composure and experience. Andos I thought it was encouraging and a definite step in the right direction, we have some good players but think some need to build their confidence up a bit and others who are slowly realizing where we are and the task ahead of us.
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Post by PessimistGas on Aug 25, 2014 14:49:34 GMT
Some people on here will never be happy... To say Taylor is s*** or Parkes or anyone today is crazy. Competent but underwhelming performance. Good to build on though and were clearly the better team. That something is missing up front but I do think cunnington and Taylor could work. Taylor technically very good and unlucky not to get a goal. Cunnington strong, composed and good presence. Agree with comments re Harrison. Good demeanor and attitude which is pleasing. But lots of effort and not much else. Very much Haldane esque as touted. Trotman, Lockyer especially and remainder of back for done well. Can't do much about the goal; 3 charged it down and how it got through I don't know. Off the hand also! Defence less shaky looking with Mcchrystak. All round good Solid performance and with match practice will only improve! This team is still learning. Ollie Clarke; I have to say is a much better player than I thought. Some good touches. Also Monkhouse and Mansell despite being pretty average showed good composure and experience. How exactly is a free header under no pressure straight at the keeper unlucky? He didn't need to be offside for the goal, poor positioning and awareness all day. Fail to see what is technically good about him when he tries to control the ball and it ends up 6 feet infront of him. Just my opinion. Agree with most of your sentiments though, competent but underwhelming sums it up perfectly. Moving to basic competence from total ineptitude, while a step forward, is no cause for back slapping. Clarke needs to insure that we build on this next Saturday.
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Post by nomorefaith on Aug 25, 2014 14:49:46 GMT
Did not think we played that bad in the 2nd half Personally I don't think we are far off bring a decent side once they start playing as a team we should be there or thereabouts
If that header would have been directed at any other part of the goal we would have all going on about a good win .
There goal had a bit of luck to it , from one angle it looked like deflected handball and Hughes was offside, but then SM did make a hash of it in the first place but then pulled off 2 great saves .
At the start of the day I'd have been happy with a point after all the doom and gloom at the moment , but on the overall performance we deserved all 3 . If that is the standard that has got FGR to the top of the table I don't think we have to much to worry about if we can start finding the back of the net on a regular basis
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Post by HopefulGas on Aug 25, 2014 15:07:03 GMT
For me I agree that parkes was one off the worse players on the pitch today, when he picks the ball up I'm 90% sure that the next player to touch the ball won't be a bristol rovers player. Trotman on the other hand was my MOTM winning aerial battles along with communicating with the midfield this can only be a good thing exactly the sort of player we need, especially after the goals we have been conceding so far this season. As for the strikers I'm not that impressed I know it wasn't great conditions today and maybe a goal for Taylor will kickstart his season (fingers crossed) but ATM I would start with Jamie White or Ellis Harrison give them the chance to prove themselves. Taylor has had 5 games to do so with no luck. Pros and cons throughout the team but what do you expect from a conference side? Today was definitely a step in the right direction maybe a couple more changes and this new signing we could build on this and be on to something.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 15:11:55 GMT
Some people on here will never be happy... To say Taylor is s*** or Parkes or anyone today is crazy. Competent but underwhelming performance. Good to build on though and were clearly the better team. That something is missing up front but I do think cunnington and Taylor could work. Taylor technically very good and unlucky not to get a goal. Cunnington strong, composed and good presence. Agree with comments re Harrison. Good demeanor and attitude which is pleasing. But lots of effort and not much else. Very much Haldane esque as touted. Trotman, Lockyer especially and remainder of back for done well. Can't do much about the goal; 3 charged it down and how it got through I don't know. Off the hand also! Defence less shaky looking with Mcchrystak. All round good Solid performance and with match practice will only improve! This team is still learning. Ollie Clarke; I have to say is a much better player than I thought. Some good touches. Also Monkhouse and Mansell despite being pretty average showed good composure and experience. How exactly is a free header under no pressure straight at the keeper unlucky? He didn't need to be offside for the goal, poor positioning and awareness all day. Fail to see what is technically good about him when he tries to control the ball and it ends up 6 feet infront of him. Just my opinion. Agree with most of your sentiments though, competent but underwhelming sums it up perfectly. Moving to basic competence from total ineptitude, while a step forward, is no cause for back slapping. Clarke needs to insure that we build on this next Saturday. If you watch the reply Taylor did not head it straight at the keeper, the keeper made a very good save
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Post by PessimistGas on Aug 25, 2014 15:25:07 GMT
How exactly is a free header under no pressure straight at the keeper unlucky? He didn't need to be offside for the goal, poor positioning and awareness all day. Fail to see what is technically good about him when he tries to control the ball and it ends up 6 feet infront of him. Just my opinion. Agree with most of your sentiments though, competent but underwhelming sums it up perfectly. Moving to basic competence from total ineptitude, while a step forward, is no cause for back slapping. Clarke needs to insure that we build on this next Saturday. If you watch the reply Taylor did not head it straight at the keeper, the keeper made a very good save Keeper should have had no chance. If that was, say, Jamie Cureton at nearly 40 in the same position, what do you think the outcome might have been? I've not seen much of him so perhaps he is just lacking form and confidence, but i thought he was shocking today.
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Post by Heathcombe Blue on Aug 25, 2014 15:56:52 GMT
Thought Lockyer was our best player I thought Harrison was our best player. Changed the game and has to start. I thought it was a game we deserved to win but creating goals and chances is going to be a BIG problem. We are always prone to a blunder while being defensively competent, if not outstanding. Taylor is complete sh*t. Overall, vastly improved performance. It wasn't totally shameful or completely inept which is something, so I will just take the positives where I can. If only because I'm fed up of being so deflated and angry. I'll take anything.
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Post by Heathcombe Blue on Aug 25, 2014 15:58:37 GMT
I thought Harrison was our best player. Changed the game and has to start. I thought it was a game we deserved to win but creating goals and chances is going to be a BIG problem. We are always prone to a blunder while being defensively competent, if not outstanding. Taylor is complete sh*t. Overall, vastly improved performance. It wasn't totally shameful or completely inept which is something, so I will just take the positives where I can. If only because I'm fed up of being so deflated and angry. I'll take anything. Taylor was definitely not s**te and really deserved to score.Can't believe you actually wrote that.
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