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Post by oldie on Oct 22, 2024 21:59:36 GMT
How can it be "constitutional" when nobody has voted for and approved their role? Parliament has, besides that's the accepted term. Parliament has never been authorised by the electorate (in modern times at least) to ordain the family as head of state. |
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Post by aghast on Oct 22, 2024 22:20:53 GMT
I don't necessarily have a problem with an appointment made on merit, but a hereditary leader is just ridiculous in 2024, even if their powers are curtailed to the point of opening village fetes. Personally I'd rather have a Head of State with little power than one with genuine Executive Powers. If we change, I'd prefer a politically neutral post. We aren't unique in this setup, several other Constitutional Monarchies out there. Yes but I'm not sure they need a multi million ££££ empire of palaces, estates, vast tracts of the countryside and a heaving retinue of servants to rubber stamp legislation and agree to appoint the Prime Minister they've been told to appoint. |
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Post by baldrick on Oct 22, 2024 23:54:54 GMT
Parliament has, besides that's the accepted term. Parliament has never been authorised by the electorate (in modern times at least) to ordain the family as head of state. Not directly no, but referenda isn't normally something this country tends to hold, in general. Most parties campaign with the assumption that they wouldn't change it and there have been times that Parliament has been asked, James Maxton and Tony Benn both tried. |
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Post by baldrick on Oct 22, 2024 23:58:27 GMT
Personally I'd rather have a Head of State with little power than one with genuine Executive Powers. If we change, I'd prefer a politically neutral post. We aren't unique in this setup, several other Constitutional Monarchies out there. Yes but I'm not sure they need a multi million ££££ empire of palaces, estates, vast tracts of the countryside and a heaving retinue of servants to rubber stamp legislation and agree to appoint the Prime Minister they've been told to appoint. Much of which belongs to the state, but I would agree there is a lot that is unnecessary and should be trimmed. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 12:11:06 GMT
Really, so why does the Prime minister have to be sworn in my the king or Queen? I'm sure certain powers have to be ok'd by the King and his ears also? Every country has a "Head of State", be it monarchy or Republican. Would you prefer a President Blair, or President May, or god forbid a President Starmer? Or in my worst nightmares, President Boris Johnson..... |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 12:17:02 GMT
Personally I'd rather have a Head of State with little power than one with genuine Executive Powers. If we change, I'd prefer a politically neutral post. We aren't unique in this setup, several other Constitutional Monarchies out there. How can it be "constitutional" when nobody has voted for and approved their role? The UK 'unwritten constitution' which the Conservatives realised could be ignored when required as in Proroguing Parliament and has few safeguards. Out of interest Chiefs of state in just over 100 countries are directly elected, most by majority popular vote; those in another 55 are indirectly elected by their national legislatures, parliaments, or electoral colleges. Another 29 countries have a monarch as the chief of state. In dependencies, territories, and collectivities of sovereign countries - except those of the US - representatives are appointed to serve as chiefs of state. www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/about/archives/2021/field/executive-branch/ |
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 23, 2024 13:14:19 GMT
Personally I'd rather have a Head of State with little power than one with genuine Executive Powers. If we change, I'd prefer a politically neutral post. We aren't unique in this setup, several other Constitutional Monarchies out there. Yes but I'm not sure they need a multi million ££££ empire of palaces, estates, vast tracts of the countryside and a heaving retinue of servants to rubber stamp legislation and agree to appoint the Prime Minister they've been told to appoint. Germany has had (I think) 16 Presidents since WW2. Each has a large government funded house to live in p!us security details. |
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Post by aghast on Oct 23, 2024 16:41:12 GMT
Yes but I'm not sure they need a multi million ££££ empire of palaces, estates, vast tracts of the countryside and a heaving retinue of servants to rubber stamp legislation and agree to appoint the Prime Minister they've been told to appoint. Germany has had (I think) 16 Presidents since WW2. Each has a large government funded house to live in p!us security details. I suppose it's in the nature of leaders to lead, and whilst going about it to grab as much cash as they can! |
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Post by baldrick on Oct 23, 2024 16:51:23 GMT
How can it be "constitutional" when nobody has voted for and approved their role? The UK 'unwritten constitution' which the Conservatives realised could be ignored when required as in Proroguing Parliament and has few safeguards. Out of interest Chiefs of state in just over 100 countries are directly elected, most by majority popular vote; those in another 55 are indirectly elected by their national legislatures, parliaments, or electoral colleges. Another 29 countries have a monarch as the chief of state. In dependencies, territories, and collectivities of sovereign countries - except those of the US - representatives are appointed to serve as chiefs of state. www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/about/archives/2021/field/executive-branch/ The Judiciary is separate and stopped the illegal proroguing.👍 |
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 23, 2024 19:02:10 GMT
Germany has had (I think) 16 Presidents since WW2. Each has a large government funded house to live in p!us security details. I suppose it's in the nature of leaders to lead, and whilst going about it to grab as much cash as they can! German Presidents don't lead. They are purely ceremonial. |
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 25, 2024 11:25:59 GMT
A bikini clad Australian woman has shocked royal fans by holding up a provocative sign for King Charles' during his visit to Sydney..by Padraig Collinsi.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/23/01/91166799-13989727-The_woman_pictured_held_up_a_sign_saying_Charles_there_can_be_3_-a-13_1729644050910.jpgThe blonde young woman, who was wearing a blue bikini top and ripped blue jeans, shouted out to get the monarch's attention when he and Queen Camilla visited Sydney's harbourside on Tuesday. After getting the attention of those around her, if not necessarily that of the King, the woman held up a sign saying 'Charles, there can be 3 people in your marriage again'. This was a cheeky reference to something that Diana, Princess of Wales, said about her former husband in a notorious 1995 BBC interview. Diana and Charles divorced in 1992 and in an interview with Martin Bashir for Panorama three years later she said 'there were three of us in this marriage, so it was a bit crowded.' The third person she was alluding to was Camilla Parker Bowles, who Charles had reportedly been having an affair with while still married to Diana. Following Diana's death, then Prince Charles married Camilla on April 9, 2005. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/23/01/91166793-13989727-The_sign_pictured_was_a_cheeky_reference_to_something_that_Diana-a-14_1729644051034.jpg
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 7, 2024 14:29:59 GMT
www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/the-royal-family-is-charging-the-rnli-to-launch-their-boats-385225/The Royal Family has been charging the RNLI to launch their boats because the vessels cross “Duchy” beaches to reach the water. A new investigation by The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches programme has revealed that King Charles and Prince William, the Duke of Cornwall, are making millions from the Duchy of Cornwall thanks to the wealth of land under their ownership. The Duchy of Lancaster, held by the British sovereign, and the Dutchy of Cornwall, held by Prince William, hold a total of more than 5,400 leases which generate at least £50 million. They are exempt from business taxes and used to fund the royals’ lifestyles and philanthropic work. According to the Dispatches report – called ‘The King, The Prince and Their Secret Millions’ – the private estates have received millions of pounds of income from contracts with public bodies and charities. This includes one 15-year deal which will see Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS hospital trust in London pay £11.4 million to store its fleet of electric ambulances in a warehouse owned by the Duchy of Lancaster. Other sources of income include six lifeboat stations owned by the Royal National Lifeboat Institute (RNLI) — a charity of which the King is patron — which have to pay £600 a year in total to use Duchy beaches in Salcombe, Sennen Cove, the Lizard, Rock, Penlee and St Mary’s. King Charles III is a patron of the RNLI, following in the footsteps of his mother, and the RNLI frequently name boats after members of the Royal Family.
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 14, 2024 9:01:03 GMT
Working birthday today (14th Nov) for King Charles at 76..by Sean Coughlan, Royal correspondent, BBC Newsi.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/11/13/22/92045737-14079353-image-a-18_1731536214890.jpgKing Charles III is to mark his 76th birthday by opening two hubs that will distribute large volumes of surplus food to food banks, schools and community centres. It is the latest stage of his Coronation Food Project, designed to make better use of food that would otherwise be thrown away. The King is treating his birthday as a working day, visiting a new food hub in south London and conducting a virtual opening ceremony for another, on Merseyside. Since being launched, on the King's birthday last year, the food project has saved the equivalent of 2.2 million meals. There was some glamour for the King ahead of his birthday, as he attended the premiere of Gladiator II, on Wednesday. Marking a TV and film industry reception, the band outside Buckingham Palace played movie themes, including from Star Wars and James Bond - which might have been for agent 00-76. Queen Camilla missed the Gladiator II screening, as she recovers from a chest infection. “I think I’m on the mend - but these things always take a bit of time," the Queen said, at the Booker Prize awards, on Tuesday. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/30/08/91450819-14018825-image-a-14_1730275397603.jpgThe King's birthday will see him launching a distribution centre in south London, where charities, including the Felix Project and FareShare, can collect food and take it to help individuals and community groups. The food comes from places such as supermarkets or the catering industry - and rather than wasting good quality unsold food, it is used to help those facing food poverty. The King will visit a "surplus-food festival" and meet some of the people who have benefited, with the new hubs intended to increase the food saved. So far, the Coronation Food Project has rescued 940 tonnes of surplus food, estimated as enough to make 2,240,000 meals. The King is continuing to be treated for cancer but wants to keep focusing on his work, royal aides have said. Although he has been on the throne for only two years, he is now the sixth longest-living British monarch.
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