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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 13, 2024 7:35:39 GMT
Please stop referring to other posters as 'loonies'. You are the first to start crying when you feel someone has called you something. Grow up. All you do is create bad feeling. Right...how would you describe those that would undermine our system of justice by demanding we name and shame before due process and fair trial? Sentient beings? If you don't understand what you are doing then nothing I say will change things, but as my old Dad always told me, "good manners cost nothing". |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 7:44:01 GMT
Ioan Pinatru 32, of no fixed address has been charged with the knife attack on a young girl in Leicester Square, London Very english sounding name. |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 7:47:43 GMT
My first thought was you'd have to go some to nick £200 worth of goods from a tea shop. Then I went on their website and their tea pots range in price from just under £200 to over £3000 so I can understand their need for a security guard. However what a sad state of affairs the country has become when a shop employs a security guard through fear someone might walk out with a tea pot and packet of tea! Even sadder There are those that steal from charity shops I've seen that happen once myself, when my sister was volunteering in one of the shops on Gloucester Rd. Disgusting. |
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Post by oldie on Aug 13, 2024 7:59:23 GMT
Even sadder There are those that steal from charity shops I've seen that happen once myself, when my sister was volunteering in one of the shops on Gloucester Rd. Disgusting. Yep Ditto |
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Post by oldie on Aug 13, 2024 8:02:13 GMT
Ioan Pinatru 32, of no fixed address has been charged with the knife attack on a young girl in Leicester Square, London Very english sounding name. Could be Welsh, or a Scot with that first name. However the Surname could be Romanian. But none of that dictates where he was born. Hopefully he will be sent down for years |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 8:30:17 GMT
Very english sounding name. Could be Welsh, or a Scot with that first name. However the Surname could be Romanian. But none of that dictates where he was born. Hopefully he will be sent down for years That's what I thought when I saw this name,Romanian. I might be wrong...but isn't it really only us, America and maybe one or two other countries in Europe, that would class a person from a immigrant background, as a native of our land if they are born here? Take the Southport murderer for example. He was born in Cardiff, but his parents are relatively new immigrants to our country.If they had moved to Japan ,China, Russia, Poland etc... from Rwanda back then instead of to the UK , then Axel Muganwa Rudakubana would not be classed as a native person of any of those countries. But why is he here? Genuine question.. |
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 13, 2024 8:45:00 GMT
Seven men due in court over violent disorder in Aldershot after riots..By Francesca Gillett and Ben Hattonichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1024/cpsprodpb/fa06/live/a1b2add0-5942-11ef-8f0f-0577398c3339.jpgBasingstoke: Seven men are due to appear in court in Basingstoke accused of violent disorder in connection to a protest outside a hotel in Aldershot on 31st July. One of the men is also charged with assault by beating of an emergency worker. A 13-year-old girl from Aldershot, who cannot be named for legal reasons, is also due to appear in court, external charged with violent disorder, in connection with the same protest. As well as those accused of offences, several people have already been convicted and are due to be sentenced later:London: Sentencing of Michael Mongan, 39, of Castle Road, Ealing, who racially abused a bus driver and spat at his cab. Plymouth: Three men are to be sentenced after disorder in Plymouth on 5th August. Brighton: Ian Ward, 53, of Old Mill Close, Portslade, is to be sentenced for affray, assaulting an emergency worker and common assault, relating to a counter-protest in Brighton on 7th August. Chester: Two men are to be sentenced for publishing material to stir up racial hatred. Christopher Taggart, 36, and Rhys McDonald, 34, both from Runcorn, Cheshire, published material between 29th July and 6th August. Sheffield: Two men are due for sentencing in relation to violent disorder in Rotherham on 4th August - Kaine Hicks, 22, of Wombwell Road, Platts Common, Barnsley, and Drew Jarvis, 19, of no fixed address. Liverpool: Three men are due to be sentenced for violent disorder in Southport on 30th July and Liverpool on 3rd August. Belfast: A 26-year-old man is due in court later charged with riot and intentionally encouraging or assisting riot. Police say he was arrested on Monday in the Belfast area. Leicester: Mark Heath, 45, of Kestrel Road in Oakham, is due to appear in court charged with publishing written material to stir up racial hatred last Friday.
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Post by baldrick on Aug 13, 2024 8:53:59 GMT
Could be Welsh, or a Scot with that first name. However the Surname could be Romanian. But none of that dictates where he was born. Hopefully he will be sent down for years That's what I thought when I saw this name,Romanian. I might be wrong...but isn't it really only us, America and maybe one or two other countries in Europe, that would class a person from a immigrant background, as a native of our land if they are born here? Take the Southport murderer for example. He was born in Cardiff, but his parents are relatively new immigrants to our country.If they had moved to Japan ,China, Russia, Poland etc... from Rwanda back then instead of to the UK , then Axel Muganwa Rudakubana would not be classed as a native person of any of those countries. But why is he here? Genuine question.. What if his mum is Welsh and dad third generation immigrant from Romania? Where would you draw the line? Are Australians Australian or British, Italian and Greek? |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 13, 2024 9:05:37 GMT
Probably an immigrant.You can go by the nature of the crime.Britons tend not to do such horror.
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Post by baldrick on Aug 13, 2024 9:23:05 GMT
Probably an immigrant.You can go by the nature of the crime.Britons tend not to do such horror. We could wait and see. |
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Post by oldie on Aug 13, 2024 9:28:36 GMT
Could be Welsh, or a Scot with that first name. However the Surname could be Romanian. But none of that dictates where he was born. Hopefully he will be sent down for years That's what I thought when I saw this name,Romanian. I might be wrong...but isn't it really only us, America and maybe one or two other countries in Europe, that would class a person from a immigrant background, as a native of our land if they are born here? Take the Southport murderer for example. He was born in Cardiff, but his parents are relatively new immigrants to our country.If they had moved to Japan ,China, Russia, Poland etc... from Rwanda back then instead of to the UK , then Axel Muganwa Rudakubana would not be classed as a native person of any of those countries. But why is he here? Genuine question.. In America, even if your parents are only transient within the country, if you are born there you are automatically a citizen of the USA. It's one of the endearing aspects of their constitution. In your list of comparative countries Japan: You ever been there? Such a beautiful country and the most polite people I have ever come across. BUT; At the same time they are horribly xenophobic and misogynistic. With low birth rates and almost zero migration a demographic time bomb is about to explode. China; You been there? The opposite of Japan some of the rudest and anti social people I have met. As for their politics and society...no thanks. They also are facing a demographic nightmare Russia; Ummmmm...enough said Poland; An interesting one, sometimes they, as a country sound like a teenager coming of age, ravaged by WW2, crushed by decades of fascist communism, trying to throw off the shackles of religion. Personally I like them and Krakow is such a beautiful city. Give them time |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 13, 2024 9:31:29 GMT
Probably an immigrant.You can go by the nature of the crime.Britons tend not to do such horror. We could wait and see. That's exactly what I am doing. |
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Post by oldie on Aug 13, 2024 9:33:27 GMT
That's exactly what I am doing. It doesn't sound like it. You are announcing in public that he is "probably an immigrant" |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 13, 2024 9:46:31 GMT
Probably an immigrant.You can go by the nature of the crime. Britons tend not to do such horror. You've obviously not heard of Fred West, Thomas Hamilton, Harold Shipman, etc |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 13, 2024 10:01:36 GMT
Probably an immigrant.You can go by the nature of the crime. Britons tend not to do such horror. You've obviously not heard of Fred West, Thomas Hamilton, Harold Shipman, etc That does'nt cut it Chesh. Yes of course we've had our murderous nutters,but nothing like as many ( per population group ) as these last few years. My guessing game is actually quite accurate and until such time as our Government release the crime statistics a la Germany Denmark,Britons will continue to guess whodunit. |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 13, 2024 10:04:19 GMT
That's exactly what I am doing. It doesn't sound like it. You are announcing in public that he is "probably an immigrant" Yes. A guess based on who usually does these awful subhuman crimes. Like you,I wait to see who the nutter is. |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 13, 2024 11:34:41 GMT
Waited and seen.
The subhuman, that repeatedly stabbed an 11 year old girl is Rumanian.
A non Briton.
Absolutely no surprise what so ever
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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 13:23:47 GMT
Probably an immigrant.You can go by the nature of the crime. Britons tend not to do such horror. You've obviously not heard of Fred West, Thomas Hamilton, Harold Shipman, etc Lord what are you talking about...? Did you intentionally not read the word 'tend' in Basel' response? Basel has stated many times on here, that the new wave of knifes crimes like we are experiencing in this country over the past few years, has NEVER happened before, and is not in a culture to do. He has acknowledged those kind of cases that you bring up there, as they are done by psychopath's, and every walk of life sadly have those. How often do we get a Fred West? Or a Shipman case here in this country? What every 5-10 years? Interesting enough..wasn't the last case of that kind committed by a black man/ immigrant, who left two cut up bodies in a suitcase up by the Clifton suspension bridge a month ago? Yostin Andres Mosquera, again sounds a very British name..🙄 |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 13:27:42 GMT
Waited and seen. The subhuman, that repeatedly stabbed an 11 year old girl is Rumanian. A non Briton. Absolutely no surprise what so ever It's not a race, or religious thing, it's a cultural thing..as we have imported many backwards, and many dangerous culture's here. Anyone now willing accept this? or shall we wait few days for the next attack to happen,and then we can have this discussion again? |
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Post by oldie on Aug 13, 2024 14:11:09 GMT
Waited and seen. The subhuman, that repeatedly stabbed an 11 year old girl is Rumanian. A non Briton. Absolutely no surprise what so ever It's not a race, or religious thing, it's a cultural thing..as we have imported many backwards, and many dangerous culture's here. Anyone now willing accept this? or shall we wait few days for the next attack to happen,and then we can have this discussion again? "Christianity is the predominant religion in Romania, with Romanian Orthodoxy being the largest denomination. According to the 2021 National Census, 85.3% of the population identified as Romanian Orthodox Christians, 4.5% as Roman Catholics, 3% as Reformed Christians, and 2.5% as Pentecostal Christians." Culture? |
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